Bluedell 5,715 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 But it would have honoured the Club Deck bonds so you have circa £7m less creditors, no? Is that not what the Green bid is doing as well? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,715 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 your the financial guru bluedell I gave you tbk bid earlier now you have both if your telling me its 2 million more fair enough. but it was 5.5 in the creditors pot ad not a loan. this looks like he's buying us for a few hundred k. a joke at first glance I haven't gone through either bid in detail, and am happy to be corrected. It's the amount in the pot that's what's most important to the administrators and not how it's funded. Playing devil's advocate, what's different between this and TBK's plan of getting Ticketus to finance the deal? Also, we don't know for sure if TBKs had a similar scheme to get their cash back with their latest proposal. There may have been some element of repayment factored into their planned share issue. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 0 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Schedule 4 sets out it quite clearly. Estimated Funds Available for Unsecured Creditors CVA 4,967,284 Newco 953,284 Liquidation Nil Who would vote against a CVA? When you put it like that it settles me down some what 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,715 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 When you put it like that it settles me down some what yeah, it's nice to see that there's an incentive to avoid a newco, although as has been poiinted out, HMRC may make a non-financial decision. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I haven't gone through either bid in detail, and am happy to be corrected. It's the amount in the pot that's what's most important to the administrators and not how it's funded. Playing devil's advocate, what's different between this and TBK's plan of getting Ticketus to finance the deal? Also, we don't know for sure if TBKs had a similar scheme to get their cash back with their latest proposal. There may have been some element of repayment factored into their planned share issue. read tbk bid when you get a chance. it was 5.5 for the pot with fees paid seperately. ticketus had no part of it. the share issue was to be much down the line and there's no indication of repayment and some that it wouldnt. but in truth is a pointless comparison. this bids an abomination at first glance and green will need to do a lot of convincing to get a penny out of me while he's at the helm. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,114 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 RFCGClose Leasing Scottish Sports Council Premier Property Group Bank of Scotland Kelvinside War Memorial Trust All of those are fixed charge holders. I think the bottom 2 have been satisfied, below is a MG02 regarding Bank of Scotland, pretty sure I seen one perhaps two with regards to the Kelvinside War Memorial Trust but cannot seem to find them at present. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 yeah, it's nice to see that there's an incentive to avoid a newco, although as has been poiinted out, HMRC may make a non-financial decision. or decide an asset sale will realise more. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 0 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 yeah, it's nice to see that there's an incentive to avoid a newco, although as has been poiinted out, HMRC may make a non-financial decision. I can't wait to talk about a dodgy offside or how good a new £2M signing is when he tracks back to clear the lines 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,715 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I take it they're retaining their charge if the CVA is successful then? They're not accounted for in the estimated outcome. Yeah, looks like we will still owe them the £1.6m post CVA. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 my fear always was tbk were susceptible to a bid by a chancer that could afford to bid more and invest less with us paying them back. as I say greens got some explaining to do. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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