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[Zappa 0]

This thread seems to have gone a bit off the rails!

 

I take responsibility BH.

[BrahimHemdani 1]

... well, I hazard a guess that we might miss out on the title this season, so as runner's up (hopefully), we will have to go through a couple of extra-qualifying rounds anyway. Only the season after next is when our previous runs are included methinks. Maybe those who continuously fail to make a mark in Europe have enhanced Scotland's (Is there irony in here? Yes there is!) co-efficient by then.

 

Absolutely correct and by reference to the wonderful Bert Kassie's site:

 

2012/13 as Scotland were 15th in 2011 the SPL Runner's Up this season will play in CL(NC)Q3 & 3rd Place go into the ELQ3

2013/14 as Scotland are 18th this year (which still includes our 2007/08 run to Manchester) the SPL Champions next season play in the CLQ3, 2nd and 3rd play in the ELQ2.

2014/15 we are provisionally down to 26th so the SPL Champs have to start in the CLQ2, 2nd go into the ELQ2 and third start in the ELQ3!

[Zappa 0]

Absolutely correct and by reference to the wonderful Bert Kassie's site:

 

2012/13 as Scotland were 15th in 2011 the SPL Runner's Up this season will play in CL(NC)Q3 & 3rd Place go into the ELQ3

2013/14 as Scotland are 18th this year (which still includes our 2007/08 run to Manchester) the SPL Champions next season play in the CLQ3, 2nd and 3rd play in the ELQ2.

2014/15 we are provisionally down to 26th so the SPL Champs have to start in the CLQ2, 2nd go into the ELQ2 and third start in the ELQ3!

 

UEFA and the major broadcasters have a lot to answer for!

[BrahimHemdani 1]

I disagree it is not UEFA's fault it is the failure of our Clubs to do anything in Europe.

 

Last season:

 

21st Scotland 5 teams

5 2 7 1 6 3 4 18.0 Average 3.600

39 Glasgow Rangers EL 0 0 0 1 6 3 4 12.0

95 Motherwell EL 3 1 2 0 0 0 0 3.5

115 Celtic EL 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2.0

168 Dundee United EL 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0.5

202 Hibernian EL 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0.0

 

This season boosted by Celtic's bye!:

 

25th Scotland 4 teams

4 4 4 1 3 2 0 11.0 Average 2.750

64 Celtic EL 2 0 0 1 3 2 0 7.0

115 Hearts FC EL 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 2.0

144 Dundee United EL 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1.0

166 Glasgow Rangers EL 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 1.0

 

 

Last figure is points gained.

 

It is a fascinating site and goes back many years.

Edited February 26, 2012 by BrahimHemdani
EUFA/UEFA!

[Zappa 0]

I disagree it is not EUFA's fault it is the failure of our Clubs to do anything in Europe.

 

It's UEFA's fault that they created an unfair European competition that's tainted and biased towards the top leagues. You can't retain credibility accross European associations if you create a competition that's specifically designed to favour the top 3 to 5 leagues for broadcasting/money reasons.

[BrahimHemdani 1]

It's UEFA's fault that they created an unfair European competition that's tainted and biased towards the top leagues. You can't retain credibility accross European associations if you create a competition that's specifically designed to favour the top 3 to 5 leagues for broadcasting/money reasons.

 

I think it's a combination of both realy. I accept what you say and actually it's the top 6 - ENG, SP, GER, [3] ITA, FRA, POR [2] teams go straight in but the changes they made also give the Champs of the lesser countries an easier route in and this has been successful for the likes of Apoel of CYP.

Edited February 26, 2012 by BrahimHemdani

[Zappa 0]

I think it's a combination of both realy. I accept what you say and actually it'as the top 6 - ENG, SP, GER, [3] ITA, FRA, POR [2] teams go straight in but the changes they made also give the Champs of the lesser countries an easier route in and this has been successful for the likes of Apoel of CYP.

 

A "Champions League" should be purely for the champions of the European associations.

[BrahimHemdani 1]

I agree with you but sadly those days have gone.

[pete 2,511]

Quote Originally Posted by Zappa View Post

 

A "Champions League" should be purely for the champions of the European associations.

 

 

I agree with you but sadly those days have gone.

 

I agree with you both. I see the champions league ending up a competition between the richest clubs in the future, unfortunately.

[BrahimHemdani 1]

I agree with you both. I see the champions league ending up a competition between the richest clubs in the future, unfortunately.

 

Agreed, with the rest there as cannon fodder and causing the (very) occasional upset.