khan 0 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 If I was a bookie calculating the odds on the tax case we would be very heavy odds on favourites to get a result, HMRC for all their front and bravado allied to a good deal of "we are the Revenue what we say is final" are piss poor at these cases their record is abysmal even worse than has been claimed, it is about a 0.7% success rate. A lot of people and companies are realising that HMRC are subject to the same laws as everyone else, although they like to cultivate the myth that they are above it. My advice to anyone who has a case a good one against HMRC claims/assessments/bully boy tactics is to tell them go take a flying fuck and see them in court, as long as you are certain of your facts. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 My advice to anyone who has a case a good one against HMRC claims/assessments/bully boy tactics is to tell them go take a flying fuck and see them in court, as long as you are certain of your facts. I'll bear that in mind, last time I just set my MP on them; soon got sorted. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 1. Jelavic will be sold in January for £7.5M most likely to QPR.2. Reason for sale is that in the event of losing the tax case there is no money to pay the wages for the rest of the season (Whyte certainly doesn't have any more money). Would it not be quite unusual for us to get a large transfer fee like £7.5m in one single payment? I thought Spurs and Villa had paid us installments over a few seasons and they are relatively large clubs in comparison to QPR. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Would it not be quite unusual for us to get a large transfer fee like £7.5m in one single payment? I thought Spurs and Villa had paid us installments over a few seasons and they are relatively large clubs in comparison to QPR. Yes I think you are correct about that but it might suit us to get instalments. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yes I think you are correct about that but it might suit us to get instalments. It sort of ruins point #2 about the sale of Jela being to pay the wages for the rest of the season though because an initial instalment of 2 or 3 million wouldn't be enough to cover the wage bill for that length of time. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Does anyone else think that Whyte could be just a front man for maybe Murray or King? I just find it so strange that first Ellis appeared and then came back with Whyte. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 It sort of ruins point #2 about the sale of Jela being to pay the wages for the rest of the season though because an initial instalment of 2 or 3 million wouldn't be enough to cover the wage bill for that length of time. Perhaps, but Rangers might be able to insist on all or most of the money up front and if not they could use it as collateral. What I am not sure off is whether or not having the asset of money owed would be taken into account in the administration or just any cash in the bank; my accountancy head tells me the former but perhaps Craig or BD would know the answer to that. Also they might be able to get it paid to the holding company which is offshore; not sure if they would get away with that either. All I can say is that the info about the sale or intended sale was solid (it didn't come from another site) and seemed to be backed up by the apparent offer yesterday. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Does anyone else think that Whyte could be just a front man for maybe Murray or King? I just find it so strange that first Ellis appeared and then came back with Whyte. Whyte surely has some backers in the offshore company who are not listed as directors but my info is that Ellis doesn't have the dosh. I think Ellis is just a mistake, somehow he conned Whyte into thinking he really knew about this stuff (or maybe Whyte just thought he was useful and he isn't) and he doesn't. I'll do more digging on the Whyte/Ellis relationship, if there is one. Edited December 29, 2011 by BrahimHemdani 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khan 0 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) The Rangers Fc Group Ltd RED FLAGS Status: Active Litigation: 0 results AT A GLANCE Inc Date: 17th Sep 2010 (1yrs) Annual Returns: 17th Sep 2011 Company Type: Ltd CREDIT SCORE COMING SOON Update Details GeneralFinancialsPeopleOpinions?ASSOCIATED DIRECTORS Name (age) Function Position Active Inactive Craig Whyte (40) Director Director 10 8 Andrew Ellis (44) Director Director 4 4 Philip Betts (48) Director Director 7 5 PREVIOUS DIRECTORS Paul Townsend (49) Director Director 219 70 Jordan Nominees (scotland) Ltd N/A Company Secretary 1 0 Show 2 More?SHAREHOLDER DETAILSNo shareholders?MEMBERS Rangers Tax-Case Position active COMPANY FINANCIALS ? View in GBP No accounts available Companies younger than 21 months are not required to file accounts. This company has not supplied any contact details. Get in Touch Registered Address 4 Bedford Row London WC1R 4DF Trading Address PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS; Previous Name Date Changed Wavetower Ltd 12th May 2011 DOCUMENT LISTDate Description Flag 17/09/2011 Annual returns 24/05/2011 Change of name 12/05/2011 Change of name 05/03/2011 Change of directors 22/10/2010 Change of directors 22/10/2010 Change in registered office address Edited December 29, 2011 by khan 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Craig Whyte (40) Director Director 10 8 Andrew Ellis (44) Director Director 4 4 Philip Betts (48) Director Director 7 5 Can you interpret the numbers? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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