chilledbear 16 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think it is very noticable that outsiders, by that I mean anyone not a supporter of either Rangers or celtc, when they hear a song associated with Ulster or the Republic, it is sectarian. It really doesn't matter who or what the song mentions, the idea is to get rid of all 'Orange or iranaway' songs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think it is very noticable that outsiders, by that I mean anyone not a supporter of either Rangers or celtc, when they hear a song associated with Ulster or the Republic, it is sectarian. It really doesn't matter who or what the song mentions, the idea is to get rid of all 'Orange or iranaway' songs. It does indeed seem that way and that's no doubt why they've refused to draw up a specific list of what's not acceptable. They didn't want to create outrage because the list is going to be significantly bigger than what people have been expecting. There's going to be a lot of songs getting added to the invisible banned list in the coming months IMO. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Ahh, got ya now. I still dont think shouting fuck bobby sands should be deemed offensive. It just means that people dont care for him is all. No ? I would find it offensive not to put Fuck in front of Bobby Sands. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I saw this, was BH on the show? The Celtic guy was such an arrogant shit who refused to answer MacKay's questions. Didn't get the call lads; I guess I wasn't going to be controversial enough for them. I'm going to have my dinner then I'll post a new thread with the view from SD as promised. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 There's nothing wrong with shouting fuck about a convicted terrorist. However the add-on is the potential issue with "a Father's Advice". I'm guessing it could be argued that there's a question mark over the timing of certain parts of the song and whether it refers to the modern-day "volunteers" rather than the ones from around 100 years ago. You might be interested to learn that under the new SPL rules it will be considered "unacceptable conduct" to sing a song in opposition to a proscribed terrorist group in just the same way as singing a song in support of such a group; but of course because of the absolute defence of "reasonably practicable" there is virtually no chance of any club being charged let alone found guilty, as in the recent cases of Hearts v Celtic and Celtic v Hibs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You might be interested to learn that under the new SPL rules it will be considered "unacceptable conduct" to sing a song in opposition to a proscribed terrorist group in just the same way as singing a song in support of such a group; but of course because of the absolute defence of "reasonably practicable" there is virtually no chance of any club being charged let alone found guilty, as in the recent cases of Hearts v Celtic and Celtic v Hibs. I think one of the parties (Tory?) at Holyrood today called for an ammendment to the bill so that it specified pro-IRA chants/songs as illegal, but unsurprisingly the idea was kicked out. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think one of the parties (Tory?) at Holyrood today called for an ammendment to the bill so that it specified pro-IRA chants/songs as illegal, but unsurprisingly the idea was kicked out. It was David McLetchie, the former Tory party leader. Singing anything in support of a prosrcibed organisation IS now illegal in terms of the act IF it is related to a regulated football match, IF it casuses offense to the mythical "reasonable person" and IF it is likely to incite public disorder. The strange thing is that unlike the SPL new rules, the law does not specify that singing songs in opposition to a prosrcibed organisation is illegal. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 0 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 John McKay is a bear as far as I know. Whenever I've spoken to him he's kept his allegiances very quiet indeed. I have no idea who he supports, no evidence either which way but loose. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Whenever I've spoken to him he's kept his allegiances very quiet indeed. I have no idea who he supports, no evidence either which way but loose. Nice name drop Danny :smile: 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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