ian1964 10,761 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) QC Paul McBride has urged Celtic to take sactions against members of its Green Brigade section of fans who continue to glorify the IRA in song. McBride, who has advised Celtic manager Neil Lennon, was reacting to news that Uefa is investigating alleged "illicit chanting" by the club's supporters. "The particular organisation who tend to be involved singing this are called the Green Brigade," said McBride. "Education has not worked and now it is time for sanctions." European football's governing body in April fined Celtic's city rivals, Rangers, £35,000 and banned their fans from their next away European game for sectarian singing in a match against PSV Eindhoven. Now Celtic face an 8 December hearing over chants reported by Strathclyde Police's match commander at their Europa League game against Rennes on 3 November. Continue reading the main story Peter Lawwell will be angry that the club's otherwise excellent reputation is being diminished by this kind of activity and I think we'll see fairly firm action over the next few weeks from the Celtic board Paul McBride QC "To be fair to Celtic, they do have, generally, a very good reputation with their fans in Europe," said McBride about the club he supports. "But we can't ignore the fact that, for a number of years, there have been a small section of the Parkhead crowd who sing songs about the IRA and the provisional IRA and they dress it up by saying that it's political and not religious and it's not sectarian. "But it misses the point entirely. It is offensive. "What do you say to a 10-year-old child who asks his father why people are singing about killers at a football game?" While McBride pointed out that the case against Celtic on this occasion had yet to be proven, he expected that it would result in tougher action from chief executive Peter Lawwell. "Celtic, on the face of it, may have a case to answer and it may well be that, as it is the first time it has been drawn to Uefa's attention, they will be simply given a warning," he said. "But it's a warning shot to Celtic that they will have to deal with it as an issue. "To be fair to Peter Lawwell, he has been doing that for the last couple of seasons. "He has been discussing it with their so-called leaders, I am not sure their leaders are actually in control of all of them, but he has been discussing it with them. "He has been making it clear publicly and privately, he doesn't want this kind of activity and, in a crowd at Celtic Park of say 58,000, we are talking about no more than 500 people. Continue reading the main story The extent of the problem we have seen in Glasgow has been around for years and years, but it's only in the last 12 months that the authorities have really begun to get their heads around it Piara Powar FARE executive director "So it can be done and I think, Peter, he won't be embarrassed, he will be angry that the club's otherwise excellent reputation is being diminished by this kind of activity and I think we'll see fairly firm action over the next few weeks from the Celtic board." Celtic blogger Paul Brennan, though, suggested it was an insignificant problem at Celtic Park and did not know of any such singing at the match against Rennes. "If the police have a matter that they want to act on then it's the police's responsibility to do so," he said. "And it's certainly the police's responsibility to alert the club there and then as to what's going on. "It does the club, it does the fans and our reputation as a nation no good for the police to go behind everyone's back, take no action whatever on the day but raise it with an external body." However, Piara Powar, executive director of the FARE anti-racism network that has previously reported Rangers to Uefa, insists it is right to target sectarian chanting by both sides of the Old Firm. "The extent of the problem we have seen in Glasgow has been around for years and years, but it's only in the last 12 months that the authorities have really begun to get their heads around it," he said. "I think Scottish football had fallen into a place where there was a sense of 'we don't like what happens but the whole city is caught up with it'." http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15730417.stm Edited November 15, 2011 by ian1964 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Piara Power agrees both sides should be targeted, yet Fare only reported one Club!! BTW the above article is in the Sports section on the BBC Site, when Rangers were reported it was the headline story on the News page. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dutchy Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 McBride states: 'Education is not working' I'd say the fact that most septic supporters have a seperate education system within the state education system is one of the problems. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Illicit used not sectarian. 500 people the suville calculator in reverse I see and don't even get me started on FARE. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 500 people the suville calculator in reverse I see It must be a typo. He surely said 5000. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 FARE were requested to attend our game IIRC, so it therefore had an obligation to report. Unless they were asked to attend Parkhead then they would have no reason to report Celtic. Is glorifying the IRA sectarian chanting or is it political ? I genuinely dont know, would like to be educated. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Is glorifying the IRA sectarian chanting or is it political ? I genuinely dont know, would like to be educated. Read this Vanguard Bears article from yesterday mate - http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=178:celtic-scotlands-real-shame 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 FARE were requested to attend our game IIRC, so it therefore had an obligation to report. Unless they were asked to attend Parkhead then they would have no reason to report Celtic. Is glorifying the IRA sectarian chanting or is it political ? I genuinely dont know, would like to be educated. According to the law Or Uefa it makes no difference Craig. The IRA are a terrorist organisation so chants about them are banned. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 According to the law Or Uefa it makes no difference Craig. The IRA are a terrorist organisation so chants about them are banned. I get that Allan, but your previous post suggested that it IS sectarian. Saying "illicit used not sectarian" suggests to me that you think the article should state it was sectarian chanting. That was why I asked. I do believe they are both banned, but that is a different question to whether both are sectarian chang=ting. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I get that Allan, but your previous post suggested that it IS sectarian. Saying "illicit used not sectarian" suggests to me that you think the article should state it was sectarian chanting. That was why I asked. I do believe they are both banned, but that is a different question to whether both are sectarian chang=ting. To me it's sectarian the IRA killed many simply because they were Protestants I find it hard when some of the numptys over here in the media still try to defend it as political. There's nothing political about a AK47 or a bomb. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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