craig 5,199 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Frankie, I'm not so sure that "boardroom reshuffles" is the correct terminology for either booting or forcing them all out the door. Well, if that's what you call it at least nobody will accuse you of being anti-Whyte! Or that they resigned ? At least TRY to be impartial. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Surely Whyte's in one big game of poker with the tax man. We don't want him showing his hand do we, he's already dropped enough hints what will happen if we get stung big time. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Or that they resigned ? At least TRY to be impartial. All of the boardroom resignations appear to have been forced though. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 All of the boardroom resignations appear to have been forced though. They do ? According to who ? Ian posted a newspaper article whereby Whyte suggests he was speaking to McLelland just a few days ago and was completely unaware that Greig & McLelland had resigned and that he was disappointed this was the case. Now, you can choose to disbelieve Whyte all you like. The only news that we have seen is this article where Whyte was shocked and disappointed along with Greig & McLelland saying they were not part of the corporate decision-making. Either case could be right so to suggest that they appear to have been forced is, in my opinion, a prejudiced opinion slanted against Whyte. This could very easily be a misunderstanding due to regime change. It could be that Greig & McLelland expected things to continue as they were - so their involvement was constant and seamless from one regime to the other. Whilst Whyte may have different ideas on the decision-making process. Misunderstanding. Now, IF Whyte is to be believed then he never even got the chance to hear their (Greig & McLelland) complaints and make any changes to his processes. We simply dont know. But it appears that they could EITHER have been forced or that they simply resigned. But if Whyte was shocked and disappointed that they resigned that, to me, doesnt suggest someone being forced out. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 All of the boardroom resignations appear to have been forced though. Well if your not welcome at the party and you refuse to leave there's only one course of action. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 They do ? According to who ? Ian posted a newspaper article whereby Whyte suggests he was speaking to McLelland just a few days ago and was completely unaware that Greig & McLelland had resigned and that he was disappointed this was the case. Now, you can choose to disbelieve Whyte all you like. The only news that we have seen is this article where Whyte was shocked and disappointed along with Greig & McLelland saying they were not part of the corporate decision-making. Either case could be right so to suggest that they appear to have been forced is, in my opinion, a prejudiced opinion slanted against Whyte. This could very easily be a misunderstanding due to regime change. It could be that Greig & McLelland expected things to continue as they were - so their involvement was constant and seamless from one regime to the other. Whilst Whyte may have different ideas on the decision-making process. Misunderstanding. Now, IF Whyte is to be believed then he never even got the chance to hear their (Greig & McLelland) complaints and make any changes to his processes. We simply dont know. But it appears that they could EITHER have been forced or that they simply resigned. But if Whyte was shocked and disappointed that they resigned that, to me, doesnt suggest someone being forced out. I am going for a check up at the hospital I am starting to agree with Craig too much today. I think I need my prescription doubled. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I am going for a check up at the hospital I am starting to agree with Craig too much today. I think I need my prescription doubled. Get that sorted pete. We cant be having this too often 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Craig, you could put together a convincing argument that the moon is actually made of cheese! Seriously, if you don't think there's more to it that's fine, but I personally think you'd practically have needed an electrified cattle prod to get John Greig out of the boardroom unless he was indirectly forced in some way. Is it speculation on my part? Yes, of course it is, but it's not unfounded either. John Greig lived and breathed Rangers Football Club and has done most of his life. I simply won't believe that this man just got the huff and jacked it on a whim. No chance. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Craig, you could put together a convincing argument that the moon is actually made of cheese! Are you seriously telling me that you havent realised yet that the moon is made of cheese ? Seriously, I love the debate. I would have loved to have been a litigation lawyer... but I chose a more boring financial profession for my sins. Seriously, if you don't think there's more to it that's fine, but I personally think you'd practically have needed an electrified cattle prod to get John Greig out of the boardroom unless he was indirectly forced in some way. Is it speculation on my part? Yes, of course it is, but it's not unfounded either. John Greig lived and breathed Rangers Football Club and has done most of his life. I simply won't believe that this man just got the huff and jacked it on a whim. No chance. Some will probably have already surmised this from me... but I am much more of a "devil's advocate" type of person. I will argue any point even if I dont agree with it myself, and there are definitely things that I dont agree with in the Whyte regime, but I try to put some perspective and balance to it. Unless we knew the inner workings of the club then we simply dont know. We can surmise (as we BOTH have done) but that is all it is, conjecture. Now, to play devil's advocate once more (I am in a better mood now, although I shouldnt be as the Dr just signed me off work for 3 days and wants me to get an X Ray on my back...).... let us not forget that as a Director John Greig has a fiduciary duty to the protect the shareholders (which number 26,000 as forlanssister pointed out last night). Now if John Greig felt he was not part of the governance of the company (and this does not need to be a real lack of input but a perceived one would suffice) then he would feel that he is obliged to resign his position. If he remains in the position but feels he has no input on the governance of the company he can still be held liable should a lawsuit appear. So whilst you are right that he "lived and breathed" RFC he also has a duty to himself to remove himself from the "firing line" if he has a position of fiduciary duty which he feels he is not being able to carry out. As I say, you could suggest, justifiably, that this is a sign that he was being forced out. However, it can also be justified that there was a misunderstanding between the role he had under the previous regime and the current one. It could easily be that Whyte felt Greig WAS part of the governance of the company whilst Greig felt differently. THAT would not be someone being forced out but merely a misunderstanding. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,328 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Craig, you could put together a convincing argument that the moon is actually made of cheese! Seriously, if you don't think there's more to it that's fine, but I personally think you'd practically have needed an electrified cattle prod to get John Greig out of the boardroom unless he was indirectly forced in some way. Is it speculation on my part? Yes, of course it is, but it's not unfounded either. John Greig lived and breathed Rangers Football Club and has done most of his life. I simply won't believe that this man just got the huff and jacked it on a whim. No chance. My feelings too.We treated Jock Wallace shabbily too if I remember right. What other club would treat its heroes like this? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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