26th of foot 6,084 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The TriumphilisTIC Triumvirate of Roseanna Cunnigham, Frank Mulholland, and Christine Grahame have been on home turf for ten minutes and are already 0-3 down. I suspect this will be quietly buried early in the new year. I wonder if our new Lord Advocate will ask his usual question at his beloved Sellik's AGM next year? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 :box: Clowns pretending to be a government Maybe we should all vote for maineflyer to govern us.......heil hitler:box:, 'get in that shower:box: Schweinhund':box: 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I don't think they ever really beleived that they could have got this through so quickly. They just played it out then done the double take to show what an understanding and listening government they are. Old political trick, but good news just the same. This simply isn't true. It's nothing like an old political trick to try and force an issue, be told by everyone that matters that you've done it poorly, and be forced into an embarrasing climb down. They may spin it that way, as a form of damage limitation, but that was never the object. They never manufactured the whole thing to make themselves look understanding. They tried to look decisive, and authorititative, and on top of a contemporary issue and had to, in light of wholesale rejection, adopt a listening posture. That this has been turned over is thanks to everyone who objected sensibly and, where possible, loudly. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Clowns pretending to be a government Exactly this 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Clowns pretending to be a government Fascists pretending to be democrats is closer to the truth. This particular definition of fascism is quite interesting - "Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints, goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." - Robert O. Paxton Piece together the parts in bold and think about it.... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dutchy Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 That post Zappa is actually a load of shite. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 That post Zappa is actually a load of shite. How so Dutchy? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Fascists pretending to be democrats is closer to the truth. This particular definition of fascism is quite interesting - "Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints, goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." - Robert O. Paxton Piece together the parts in bold and think about it.... That definition not only doesn't present fascism (which is notoriously difficult to define - where to even place fascism on a political compass is different, it's seldom far right), but doesn't reflect what's going on in our country. We are not obsessed with decline, humiliation and have no cults of unity, energy or purity. We're far too liberal to allow internal cleansing and we're anything but expanding. I agree with you that we're not a functioning democracy though. I think we're just a lazy democracy in a world where corporations are not subject to nations. Edited June 24, 2011 by bmck 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Salmond and his Gov. were looking like clowns, and one thing people with a good conceit of themselves don't like, is being made to look silly. Wish we would remember this with the likes of Speirs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggordy 0 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Well done everyone who lobbied for this Bill to be halted. Did anyone note the "outrage" at John Lamont MSP when he had the temerity to say that segregated schooling might have played a part in in recent sectarian issues. So much for free speech, even within Parliament; those shown on TV who appeared to be most "offended" being Roseanna Cunningham and Jim Murphy MP, both well known to be pro-active in Catholic issues. For voicing his opinion he is now being pressured to resign his post. Is this a Democratic or Fascist response ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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