wabashcannonball 0 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 What is going on is smoke and mirrors, when are peope going to wake up to the fact like it or lump it, that Murray is "the only show in town" at this time that is not an apparition.....whatever happened to the "announcement" before midday re Ellis. The faces in the know must have got the date wrong, must be tomorrow, 1st April. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,674 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 What is going on is smoke and mirrors, when are peope going to wake up to the fact like it or lump it, that Murray is "the only show in town" at this time that is not an apparition.....whatever happened to the "announcement" before midday re Ellis. The faces in the know must have got the date wrong, must be tomorrow, 1st April. Since when did anyone believe unknown people online...? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,679 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 Did I read that the RST were only dealing with McColl's representatives and did not know his identity? Is this bit true? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,679 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 What is going on is smoke and mirrors, when are peope going to wake up to the fact like it or lump it, that Murray is "the only show in town" at this time that is not an apparition.....whatever happened to the "announcement" before midday re Ellis. The faces in the know must have got the date wrong, must be tomorrow, 1st April. What "faces"? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plgsarmy 111 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Did I read that the RST were only dealing with McColl's representatives and did not know his identity? Is this bit true? Yes, I believe Stephen Smith confirmed this in an interview on Moday. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plgsarmy 111 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Expected negative media coverage from the usual suspects aside, why not counter their efforts by answering the more constructive concerns of those genuinely interested in what you have to offer with this plan? As has been asked several times recently, how do you plan to consult and involve the wider Rangers family to maximise the chances of success for fan ownership schemes? People like Spiers and English are easily swatted aside by showing them the proof of the pudding. By only moaning about their coverage it actually lends credence to their claims. Frankie, we will talk to our colleagues in the Assembly and Association on the best ways to consult as many people as possible. We can hold information sessions, fans forums. We have had enquiries from all over the world about this but we have to wait until the time is right and we have something credible to go to the fans with. We have received a lot of feedback on messageboards such as this (the grown-up posters that is) and there has been a lot of encouragement. However, feedback suggests that the �£600 up front may be a problem for some people so we have to look again and find a way for evryone who wants to be involved to join. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th of foot 6,119 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 What "faces"? The Faces were a late sixties/early seventies beat combo. A unification of two splintered bands, the Small Faces and the Jeff Beck Band. When Steve Marriott departed the Small Faces for Peter Frampton's idea of a supergroup, Humble Pie; the left over trio of Ronnie Laine, Ian McLagan, and Kenney Jones invited Rod Stewart and Ron Wood to form the new RandB/Blues band, 'the Faces'. I saw them a couple of times at the Apollo, great good time band and the only one I ever witnessed with a fully stocked bar(with tender) on stage. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,674 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Frankie, we will talk to our colleagues in the Assembly and Association on the best ways to consult as many people as possible. We can hold information sessions, fans forums. We have had enquiries from all over the world about this but we have to wait until the time is right and we have something credible to go to the fans with. We have received a lot of feedback on messageboards such as this (the grown-up posters that is) and there has been a lot of encouragement. However, feedback suggests that the �£600 up front may be a problem for some people so we have to look again and find a way for evryone who wants to be involved to join. Thanks for that but, with the greatest of respect, I don't think that is overly positive news. We're led to believe the Trust has been working on this scheme for several months but there seems little substance for us to lay our hats on so far. Surely, you're not changing your plans on a large scale because a few people on the internet may not fancy the up-front payment? Online fans may well be the most active demographic but it probably isn't the best litmus test of wider opinion for a variety of reasons. I'd recommend moving onto studies of more substance asap but appreciate ideas in reaching out offline are short on the ground. If you have a plan which is interesting enough that multi-millionaires will debate it for months, share it with those you want to subscribe to it so we can all provide feedback that way. Sure, some will ridicule it, but that in itself isn't a bad thing to get out the way before launching. Meanwhile the rest of us and the fan organisations can take the more valid suggestions and improve it. That is fan consultation, that is leadership and that is involving everyone. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plgsarmy 111 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks for that but, with the greatest of respect, I don't think that is overly positive news. We're led to believe the Trust has been working on this scheme for several months but there seems little substance for us to lay our hats on so far. Surely, you're not changing your plans on a large scale because a few people on the internet may not fancy the up-front payment? Online fans may well be the most active demographic but it probably isn't the best litmus test of wider opinion for a variety of reasons. I'd recommend moving onto studies of more substance asap but appreciate ideas in reaching out offline are short on the ground. If you have a plan which is interesting enough that multi-millionaires will debate it for months, share it with those you want to subscribe to it so we can all provide feedback that way. Sure, some will ridicule it, but that in itself isn't a bad thing to get out the way before launching. Meanwhile the rest of us and the fan organisations can take the more valid suggestions and improve it. That is fan consultation, that is leadership and that is involving everyone. Frankie, the 6 month thing is nonsense. It's been a matter of weeks rather than months and the document is not ready to go to the fans. When it is, we will be doing as you suggest. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineflyer 0 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Frankie, we will talk to our colleagues in the Assembly and Association on the best ways to consult as many people as possible. We can hold information sessions, fans forums. We have had enquiries from all over the world about this but we have to wait until the time is right and we have something credible to go to the fans with. We have received a lot of feedback on messageboards such as this (the grown-up posters that is) and there has been a lot of encouragement. However, feedback suggests that the �£600 up front may be a problem for some people so we have to look again and find a way for evryone who wants to be involved to join. Consultation, the word is consultation. Not publicly announcing the latest cocktail of ideas and then discovering that the people you purport to speak for don't agree with you. You are amateurs of the worst kind and you will never be the answer to the needs of Rangers FC. You continually alienate those who could actually contribute and pull the wool over the eyes of those who can't. This latest episode would be enough to embarrass better people into resignation. To see you coming on here throwing personal insults and pompous deflections only serves to emphasise the utter futility of the RST. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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