The Lafferty Question

[Super_Ally 0]

I've found though that Boyd fans generally can't stand Lafferty, and won't give him credit for anything. The boy has plenty of ability, but it won't be nurtured by chopping and changing his position and/or using him sparingly.

 

Look how your lad Boyd has excelled given a run in the team.

 

Yet Lafferty's just 'shite' despite not being given the same opportunity.

 

You a Rangers fan or a Lafferty fan?

 

Are you from Ulster as well?

[wabashcannonball 0]

Ok, I'll bite.

 

First off our own club website lists him as a striker. Not a winger, not 'Martyn's 'attacking midfielder' but a striker.

 

Secondly, his striking ratio last season, given he was been isolated out on the left wing for much of it, is 14 goals in 46 matches including 5 assists. He was rarely ever given a run in his preferred slot up front, but had unreal bad luck in that the two matches where he finally got that slot saw him get an injury right on half time in both games - one for his country where he'd run the line to perfection against Poland including a fantastic goal, and one for us where he'd run the line to perfection against Hearts including a fantastic goal.

 

Then there was his opening goal against Dundee Utd in the match which won us the league...

 

I've found though that Boyd fans generally can't stand Lafferty, and won't give him credit for anything. The boy has plenty of ability, but it won't be nurtured by chopping and changing his position and/or using him sparingly.

 

Look how your lad Boyd has excelled given a run in the team.

 

Yet Lafferty's just 'shite' despite not being given the same opportunity.

 

I will give laugherty credit for being the genuine article, unadulterated pish, the IFA never even added attacking to left midfielder. In days gone by, laugherty would not even have got into Ibrox as a ball boy, another of WS's piss poor signings.

 

ETA....Two words about WS and players positions.....Basile Boli.

Edited January 3, 2010 by wabashcannonball

[Danny 0]

You a Rangers fan or a Lafferty fan?

 

I'm a fan of Rangers and I'll defend our players when I feel they're getting a raw deal and don't deserve it.

 

Are you from Ulster as well?

 

Does this basically mean anyone who gives Lafferty credit has an ulterior motive outwith love for the club?

[Danny 0]

I will give laugherty credit for being the genuine article, unadulterated pish, the IFA never even added attacking to left midfielder. In days gone by, laugherty would not even have got into Ibrox as a ball boy, another of WS's piss poor signings.

 

ETA....Two words about WS and players positions.....Basile Boli.

 

I see how you continued your vague hyperbole and didn't actually address a single comment I made.

[Super_Ally 0]

I'm a fan of Rangers and I'll defend our players when I feel they're getting a raw deal and don't deserve it.

 

 

 

Does this basically mean anyone who gives Lafferty credit has an ulterior motive outwith love for the club?

 

Your comment "your lad Boyd" seemed a bit odd. Led to me asking those questions. Boyd has always demonstrated something at rangers, even if initially it was just goals. And that was whether or not he got a regular run.

 

Left mid is not a position Lafferty has suddenly played at Rangers, he has played much of his young career there.

 

Quite often it is Ulster based bears who seem most keen to give Ulster players much more leeway than their play deserves. It's a general trend across Rangers forums and yoru evasion of the question seems to back this up.

[wabashcannonball 0]

I see how you continued your vague hyperbole and didn't actually address a single comment I made.

 

I wasn't aware you had addressed anything, apart from say how much you are a fan of an obvious dumplin, I see BB didn't register.

[craig 5,199]

Completely disagree that "Boyd fans dislike Lafferty" - that, Danny, is utter nonsense, only in my opinion of course.

 

I suspect that 100% of Gers fans want Lafferty to be nothing but an outstanding success at Rangers.

 

To suggest Gers fans would dislike a player simply because they like another at the club. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

As things currently stand Lafferty offers zero competition to Boyd because whilst Boyd is producing the goods he cant be dropped. Lafferty is unfortunate in that Boyd/Miller has been a lethal combo.

 

Will definitely give you that the lad is not a midfielder though. He needs a run in his preferred position but right now there are more productive players in his preferred position.

[Danny 0]

Your comment "your lad Boyd" seemed a bit odd.

 

It was aimed at Cannon who said we should ship out Lafferty and use his wages on Boyd. So it seemed he was in favour of Boyd and anti Lafferty. Reasonable assumption to make?

 

Led to me asking those questions. Boyd has always demonstrated something at rangers, even if initially it was just goals. And that was whether or not he got a regular run.

 

Sorry, but prior to his recent brilliant run Boyd was about goals or nothing at all. It's simply not true to say he either gave goals or his more recent form. He has had barren spells a plenty and was considered a waste of a shirt if he wasn't scoring. I wasn't one of those with such an opinion, that's from others.

 

Left mid is not a position Lafferty has suddenly played at Rangers, he has played much of his young career there.

 

Not for Burnley he didn't. He played mostly as part of a 3 or 2 striker front.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/gamelog?id=67426&season=2007&cc=5739

 

Quite often it is Ulster based bears who seem most keen to give Ulster players much more leeway than their play deserves. It's a general trend across Rangers forums and yoru evasion of the question seems to back this up.

 

No, my 'evasion' of this question was because where I am from is none of your business, and I mean that with no disrespect. But I will help you by saying I do not share nationality with him.

 

All I want is for players to not be scapegoated when it's unfair on them. I support Rangers, I don't support abuse of our own players. 'Laugherty' indeed.

[Danny 0]

Completely disagree that "Boyd fans dislike Lafferty" - that, Danny, is utter nonsense, only in my opinion of course.

 

I base it on those who I know to be massive admirers of Boyd and their subsequent views on Lafferty. It is indeed a generalisation, and one I hope which isn't accurate. But this thread's doing little to dispel it so far.

 

I suspect that 100% of Gers fans want Lafferty to be nothing but an outstanding success at Rangers.

 

I respectfully disagree. Cannon is clearly wanting rid of him and calls him idiotic names.

 

To suggest Gers fans would dislike a player simply because they like another at the club. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

As things currently stand Lafferty offers zero competition to Boyd because whilst Boyd is producing the goods he cant be dropped. Lafferty is unfortunate in that Boyd/Miller has been a lethal combo.

 

Will definitely give you that the lad is not a midfielder though. He needs a run in his preferred position but right now there are more productive players in his preferred position.

 

I agree entirely, while Boyd and Miller are doing it, Lafferty is out of luck. And I think this is his curse, for he will not get a chance to prove himself for as long as both are doing it - and as a Rangers fan I'm entirely happy with that. But if he does get a chance in his preferred position, then I would hope he'll get more backing than he seems to be getting at the moment.

 

As an aside, Lafferty isn't really competing against Boyd, he's competing against Miller, because there really is only one Kris Boyd. But Lafferty is a similar kind of striker to Miller.

[Super_Ally 0]

Wabash's opinion that Lafferty's wages would be better spent on Boyd, when you consider what each is offering the team, seems like a fairly logical view point. Unless you are more worried about the success of KL than Rangers.

 

Boyd has not really had "barren" spells. Check out the Boyd complete stats thread. That's just pure pish. You appear to say you disagree with my arguement that Boyd was offering something even when only scoring, yet I can't seem to figure out what your disagreement is? You seem to actually be agreeing.

 

Burnley did play a lot on the left. ESPN merely listing him as a striker does not change that, unless i've missed some other point on that link.

 

I'm suprised you're not Northern Irish as it is often fans from their who will staunchly defend Lafferty's performance when at present there is little to back up that point of view.

 

We all would prefer he came good (especially at his cost), but there is little forus to get behing atm.