Gazza_8 233 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 WHy is there such a need for wanton vandalism ? Don't you mean malicious mischief? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 PS I'm not trying to be smart - I just find highly ironic comments very amusing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 PS I'm not trying to be smart - I just find highly ironic comments very amusing. If you don't mean to be ironic then why are you? I'm sure a man of your level of vocabulary is able to re-word his sentences a bit better. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Cole 0 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 No, you didn't read it properly. I believe you were referring to people who loath "badly behaved" Rangers fans. However, you loath them (and also the board management and some players) and so I was pointing out your extreme irony. Or maybe I misread you and you were actually talking about yourself? With this surprising need to spell things out, it's no wonder if I come across as condescending - however, considering your original post, and this one, that again is ironic. I think it's funny how so often that you display the very attributes you claim to dislike. But when confronted you misunderstand the post, duck out of the issue and resort to insults. So tell me, what are "self loathers"? If they are not those who hate aspects and employees of the club and certain sections of the fans, are they more literal and actually loath their own person? Your original "sound bite" is now ambiguous to me. FPMSL. I've just accused you of being a condescending charlatan and you leave a post like that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 FPMSL. I've just accused you of being a condescending charlatan and you leave a post like that. Exactly... I think the difference is plain to see. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Don't you mean malicious mischief? Is that the legal jargon for tearing up a stadium ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Can you guys take your personal issues to PM please ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) i think (though i'm not sure) calscot's point is that the term self-loather assumes what it attempts to describe. it sounds like it's a word like 'tall' or 'fat' but it's more like 'bigot' or 'handwringer': it expresses the attitude of the person using it, rather than any actual state of affairs. a debate like that, as calscot and norris have just proven, could just go round in circles. calling a rangers supporter a self-loather's is just to insult them and assume, without actually saying clearly, what rangers really is and what rangers supporters really are. anyway, all that shite aside - the point is not whether rangers supporters who get embarrassed about things like this are self-loathers, but whether there is any point in getting embarrased. i personally don't think so. humans are intolerant, beligerent, violent and contradictory; some football violence and bigotry is hardly the biggest problem facing the world at the moment. we have laws that take care of all this stuff; arrest the criminals, let the innocent people go, and we'll all be fine for not having made a big deal out of it. Edited August 11, 2009 by bmck 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Is that the legal jargon for tearing up a stadium ? You're getting there. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 . anyway, all that shite aside - the point is not whether rangers supporters who get embarrassed about things like this are self-loathers, but whether there is any point in getting embarrased. i personally don't think so. humans are intolerant, beligerent, violent and contradictory; some football violence and bigotry is hardly the biggest problem facing the world at the moment. we have laws that take care of all this stuff; arrest the criminals, let the innocent people go, and we'll all be fine for not having made a big deal out of it. I think the problem with that, is that many Rangers Supporters, rightly or wrongly, think the laws are being used against us, more than other Supporters. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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