Boyd out of cup final after bust-up with Walter

[Super_Ally 0]

Now "happy" is such a difficult word to tie down and probably fairly meaningless. I know players who were happy to hide and draw their wages every week but contributed fark all.

 

Do they tend to fight for him. No, I really don't think they do - there have been far too many times over the last two years when it's been glaringly obvious that many of them, perhaps the majority really, just don't. Do you actually have evidence to the contrary or it this just optimistic wishful thinking before an old firm final?

 

As has already been said, Smith may be many things but inspiring has never been one of them. At least not outside reports on Rangers TV or in the Rangers News. To get players to fight for you, you must first inspire.

 

 

Mmm... I guess I could have put that better.

 

Looking back on niar as well as the current squad.

 

Happy was maybe the wrong choice of words. THough if you are happier in your work environment (or even if you think lower down the ladder, within your sports team) then you are likely to work harder and produce better performances/results (a generalisation, but these come from somewhere).

 

The players respect what he had achieved and respect him and hence have mroe belief in what they can achieve. Look at Scotland or taking Rangers to our first European final in decades.

 

He certainly has his faults, but, yes I do believe he has good man management skills.

[maineflyer 0]

Mmm... I guess I could have put that better.

 

Looking back on niar as well as the current squad.

 

Happy was maybe the wrong choice of words. THough if you are happier in your work environment (or even if you think lower down the ladder, within your sports team) then you are likely to work harder and produce better performances/results (a generalisation, but these come from somewhere).

 

The players respect what he had achieved and respect him and hence have mroe belief in what they can achieve. Look at Scotland or taking Rangers to our first European final in decades.

 

He certainly has his faults, but, yes I do believe he has good man management skills.

I can see how you want it to be but if you read your post again I'm sure you'll find it as unconvincing as I do.

 

Wanting Smith to be respected or harking back to better days over a decade ago won't change the reality of the man today. We all respect what he once did and what he achieved then, although perhaps not entirely without reservation. However, the man I see today isn't inspiring anyone, which reflects much of the pisspoor, gutless football I've watch these last couple of years.

 

Sorry mate, can't accept your proposition.

[Norris Cole 0]

Any team who can repeatedly give pathetic performances like that against Inverness aren't being motivated to a degree sufficient to play for Rangers Football Club.

 

S_A to be honest I think you're thinking more of Smith's first spell, when yes, his players on the whole did fight for him game after game. But there isn't a great deal of evidence from the past couple of years to suggest that Smith carries the same authority and respect as he used to. While Smith undoubtedly had better players during his first spell in charge, you don't need ability to show a bit of grit.

[maineflyer 0]

Any team who can repeatedly give pathetic performances like that against Inverness aren't being motivated to a degree sufficient to play for Rangers Football Club.

 

S_A to be honest I think you're thinking more of Smith's first spell, when yes, his players on the whole did fight for him game after game. But there isn't a great deal of evidence from the past couple of years to suggest that Smith carries the same authority and respect as he used to. While Smith undoubtedly had better players during his first spell in charge, you don't need ability to show a bit of grit.

 

Norris, almost all the excessive patience shown to our manager stens from his first spell in charge. Even then three or four senior players in the NIAR years virtually ran the first team and did all the motivating that was required.

[calscot 0]

I can see how you want it to be but if you read your post again I'm sure you'll find it as unconvincing as I do.

 

Wanting Smith to be respected or harking back to better days over a decade ago won't change the reality of the man today. We all respect what he once did and what he achieved then, although perhaps not entirely without reservation. However, the man I see today isn't inspiring anyone, which reflects much of the pisspoor, gutless football I've watch these last couple of years.

 

Sorry mate, can't accept your proposition.

 

This is despite the fact that in the last two years, his players have been more consistently competitive in all domestic competitions than they have since... Walter was last in charge, then add our first European final for 37 years and what do you have?

 

Piss poor, gutless football? I don't think I have to look in the record books to guess that no Rangers manager has his worst ever season in the league as finishing second by 3pts. Our best season in the European cup - Smith, our best season in the UEFA cup - Smith. Even his latest record in cups is 2 wins and into the final and semi-final, never yet being beaten.

 

If that's piss poor gutless football and bad man management, just what crap managers we must have had when finishing more than 3pts behind and going out of cups.

 

You might think I'm just defending Walter again but you have to wonder why I should have to when you read what I've written against the nonsense that is spouted. If you want me to stop then stop making up absolutely groundless attacks that needs to be shown up for the strange bitterness that it is.

 

Walter may not have put fantastic football on the menu but to say he can't man manage players and get them competing when all the real world evidence unequivocally suggests the opposite, just shows what little capability you have to analyse football with any impartiality or even any logic at all.

 

Maybe instead of pretending to have an opinion on such matters you should instead cut to the chase and start every post with, "I have an irrational and disproportionate hatred of Walter Smith" and maybe just leave it there.

 

Believe me, we get it.

[Norris Cole 0]

This is despite the fact that in the last two years, his players have been more consistently competitive in all domestic competitions than they have since... Walter was last in charge, then add our first European final for 37 years and what do you have?

 

0 league titles

0 European trophies

 

 

Happy to help.

[calscot 0]

Norris, almost all the excessive patience shown to our manager stens from his first spell in charge. Even then three or four senior players in the NIAR years virtually ran the first team and did all the motivating that was required.

 

Brilliant piece of self delusion to account for any of Walter's success - we can't have Walter being good at anything, ever - that just doesn't fit with your agenda and bitter hatred.

 

If Walter's team does well, it's the players of course, when they do badly, it has to be Walter. One could conclude that we don't actually need a manager at all and without one, we can only win.

[calscot 0]

0 league titles

0 European trophies

 

 

Happy to help.

 

Is that your argument? Really? So when Bill Struth didn't win the league, he was obviously as bad as Walter?

 

When Alex Ferguson doesn't do the EPL and CL, he's rubbish?

 

Not one manager in Rangers history has won the league and a European trophy in one season.

 

We've only got to 4 Euro finals and won only once, so is getting there not an achievement for you?

 

I think it's obvious that you can't like any Rangers manager and will never be satisfied with Rangers results - of which game results are actually incidental for you anyway. You are only interested in the end of season trophy tally for the SPL and European cups.

 

You'll not be watching on Sunday or caring about the result then, because cups are nothing to you?

 

Seems to me that with the way things are going with football finance, you may as well give up supporting Rangers now as they will be unlikely to ever achieve what you want, which even without today's financial climate the club have never achieved it.

 

If all you can do is whinge every single season that we don't win the SPL and Euro double, then just what kind of supporter are you?

 

Does anyone actually agree with that kind of thinking? Is that really the type of posts that this forum is happy to be continually filled with?

 

I must be weird in that I enjoyed most of last season and feel hard done by with the fixture list.

[Norris Cole 0]

Is that your argument?

 

It's all your aggressive posts deserve.

[maineflyer 0]

It's all your aggressive posts deserve.

 

The only worthwhile response to his aggressive pish is simply never to respond it ........ the amusement of watching him put together ever more wordy posts to say exactly the same thing over and over again eventually wanes and now that the grass has started growing again there is obviously a far more productive way to pass the time.

 

I've tangled with a few old timers in the short time I've posted on Gersnet who seem particularly intolerant of those they disagree with and don't hesitate to lash out whenever it suits them. This fella is struck from the same mould and seems incapable of making a post that isn't laced with the venom of personal insults. It's a yawn but that can be a fact of life around here.