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It's not really the largest group. Season ticket holders also voted for it. What I'm saying that if one group decided it didn't want to participate and the others did then it would still go ahead. In my opinion of course.

I see you splashed it all over Twitter anyway. Why could it not go ahead?

All members were e-mailed and asked to vote. Have you changed your e-mail address. I should perhaps have said that it is only my opinion that it will happen anyway but each organisation's members will be asked to vote for the final proposal. If one of them don't vote for it, I think it will still happen but I'm very confident it will be voted for by all.

You are not reading what I said. And you are way off the mark with what you say. Plotting away? Three people from RF have been involved in exactly the same discussions as me. Where are the plots? The members of three organisations voted for the proposal to be advanced. It's not a takeover by anyone. You are taking your hatred of Mark and blaming what he says on the RST. It's nothing to do with us.

What we are talking about is a new group that will appeal to all fans, including ones who aren't particularly interested in shareholding. I believe it will have something for everyone. If RF members choose not to join up then it will be happening anyway. There is no down side to it.

I repeat, what is best for the group or what is best for the club and the fans?

Will Gersnet be voting in this?

It's clear to me that the RF board (or some of them) are against the idea of the new fans group, despite an overwhelming majority of their members wanting the idea explored further. I'm not sure I understand why. They have been represented at the same meetings that I have attended.

You'd need to ask them or look at their statements.

Who is standing that holds a position with other fans groups? If they are a member of RF why shouldn't they stand?

Perhaps but why would he think that. It's already stated that the new group would be completely independent from the club and something all supporters can buy into.

Of course it's not the case. It doesn't stop some people making things up.

Happy to discuss this at any time rbr. You have my number.

Welcome Ryan. If the proposal for the new group proves to be better for the supporters would you still put Rangers First first?

I've no idea, you'd have to ask them. I think the RF members will vote overwhelming for it when they hear the proposal.

They were. They wanted the RST to talk about fan ownership only and make Paul Goodwin from Supporters Direct our spokesman. They did not want us to speak about the dysfunctional Board at the time. They were defeated despite trying their best to get as many of their allies as they could along to the meeting. Then dummies were spat out. Looks like they are going to do the same thing again when the new fans group gets off the ground. You'd have to question why they wouldn't want a united group.

I'm not saying any more about this Alan. You have come on here and Rangers Media to stir things, it's pretty obvious what you're doing.

I find it strange that you know all the names of the people from the RST and not the names of those from an organisation you are a member of. Why don't you raise any concerns with them?

I didn't take it that way at all. I suspect people will apply and then be vetted by an independent body, probably Supporters Direct.

Don't be ridiculous. Nobody is being 'lined up'. The board will be elected by members.

Why would it matter who the individuals are when I've told you what groups are involved? You have named people from some organisations and not others. Why is that?

Alan, some of the above is true and some isn't. This is currently a work in progress and we will hopefully be putting out a proposal soon. If you like it, fine. If not, nobody will be forced to join.

I don't think it's my place to name individuals but there are representatives from the RST, RF, the Assembly, the Association and the Rangers Fans Board. In addition, it is not the Club's plan. The Club is merely facilitating the talks but is not involved in the decision making process.

The new group will be completely independent but will have a close relationship with the Club. However, it will not toe the party line when it comes to something that the fans are not happy about and the Club understands this. I have actually suggested that the elected board of the new organisation can not receive any benefits from the Club. They have to be in it to benefit the Club and not themselves.