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Where did I say that? Do you not think my questions are not valid? I'm not trying to discredit anyone but sometimes there are two sides to stories.

I'd agree with that. The Copland and Govan looked pretty full but some gaps in the Broomloan. How good was it though to have an almost full stadium at the final whistle. I also thought Build My Gallows was brilliant tonight.

Before I reply I'd like to hear Alan's responses to the questions I posted last night and were obviously missed. Just to be clear Alan, did you or did you not offer to sign off the accounts if certain Board members resigned and various other demands were met? Did you fail to attend the last 2 Board meetings where much of this could have been cleared up? Did you make the excuse for not attending the last meeting (our pre-AGM meeting) that there was no time and venue given, even though the notice said Saturday and the venue was going to be one of two we use about 500 yards from each other. Going by our constitution, then technically you were correct but with such important matters to discuss I'm surprised you didn't make the effort as no other member of the Board objected to it. What is your version of what GD actually said to you at the AGM? Did you try to make it clear that your statement was pertaining to the accounts? Why did you not try to force the issue? Did you try to clarify the circumstances of the debt by asking Mr Dingwall?

I know you're not taking sides but I don't want my name plastered across the Internet accusing me of something I didn't do.

I categorically deny that I attempted to bad mouth Scott in any way. I was explaining to someone why I wasn't going on the thread about last year's AGM. I didn't want to get involved in case the subject came up. Scott bought the items and I know this was done in good faith. I have never, ever, tried to suggest otherwise and have also discussed this with Scott who was fine about it. At the end of the day the RST had to write off �£3K due to this but I don't know anyone who said Scott had done this knowingly. That would be crazy.

Sorry, I'll bow to your superior knowledge of these things. My main point is that AH stated he wanted to state why he resigned as secretary and was asked to keep it until the Q&A session. He could have stated that it was related to the accounts and he'd have to be heard. He didn't and chose to walk out the meeting.

Sorry, but you have been misinformed. It was all accounted for.

Perhaps because he failed to indicate that it was connected. As far as we were concerned it was regarding breaches of rules that had occurred outwith the accounting period.

No, I'm trying to establish his version of what was said to him at the AGM. I heard him say that he wished to say why he resigned as secretary and GD say that the section of the meeting was for specific questions on the Secretary's and Teasurer's reports and that he could speak at the Q&A session. I didn't hear AH say anything further than that other than okay and he sat down. I'm simply trying to establish what AH thought was said to him.

Given that the Board hasn't met to discuss this than I don't think it's up to me to decide. We've actually only had two members contact us, one to ask for clarification about what's going on and another looking to join as a life member and make a donation. I'm not trying to undermine the importance of this but I'm sure if people look at the facts they will see that any mistakes made were not made through malicious intent nor anyone seeking financial gain.

That is correct.

You can easily debate with them if you go onto a thread about the RST on Rangers Media. They are swarming all over it. No offence intended of course.

Just to be clear Alan, did you or did you not offer to sign off the accounts if certain Board members resigned and various other demands were met? Did you fail to attend the last 2 Board meetings where much of this could have been cleared up? Did you make the excuse for not attending the last meeting (our pre-AGM meeting) that there was no time and venue given, even though the notice said Saturday and the venue was going to be one of two we use about 500 yards from each other. Going by our constitution, then technically you were correct but with such important matters to discuss I'm surprised you didn't make the effort as no other member of the Board objected to it. What is your version of what GD actually said to you at the AGM? Did you try to make it clear that your statement was pertaining to the accounts? Why did you not try to force the issue? Did you try to clarify the circumstances of the debt by asking Mr Dingwall?

So how did it get there Alan. Was it another Board member?

That is my memory of what happened.

You know Maineflyer, you can resort to personal abuse all you want. It says much more about you than it says about me.

Whilst I disagree with most of that Alan, I'm not prepared to get into a spat with you on an internet forum. What I would like to clarify for people is your reference to the Student Loan Company as I've seen that on another site people putting two and two together and coming out with 356. If you didn't understand at the time why didn't you say so as I clearly remember explaining it to you. Simply, an ex-Board member worked for this company and was responsible for running a charity fundraiser. He simply borrowed our credit card machine for the evening to enable credit cards to be taken at their auction. We took in the money on their behalf and when the statement came in we gave them the money back, less the transaction charges that were incurred. Nobody lost, nobody gained but suddenly people are implying that we are paying off student loans.

B, I don't think I'll make further comment and will probably wait until our official statement.

Right Alan, so you have. Do SD have your version or what actually happened?

Alan, I'm surprised that for someone normally so pedantic that your posted is littered with so many inaccuracies. I have highlighted the ones I know to be inaccurate and there are other parts when you refer to the auditors and loans that I am not aware of but I will certainly find out. Just a few questions; 1) If you had 'kept your own counsel', why has this been all over the Internet since last Tuesday? 2) You stated at the AGM that you wanted to say why you resigned as Secretary. You were told that the section was dealing with the Secretary's and Treasurer's reports only. It was certainly not clear from the stage whether or not you said anything else. I only heard you say okay. You know the format of the AGM and any questions can be asked at this time yet you chose to leave. 3) You've contadicted youself by saying it was not paid off until March 2010 and then say none of the debt had been paid off by 5 April 2010. You have a speadsheet I sent you of all the transactions in the financial year. Perhaps you should have looked at when the bulk of this money was paid. 4) If the auditors said it was a loan, isn't that because you told them it was? You may well play the martyr here Alan but please be aware that I too have a reputation to uphold. We all agreed that financial controls needed to be tightened and they have been.

Yet another play on what I said and a deflection on the main point made. Yeah, I'll discuss Trust strategy on here with you - not.

I know exactly what needs to be done Maineflyer but my views probably differ from yours. I would agree with you that gender doesn't matter, it's just a matter of common courtesy. I would never talk about any Rangers supporter on a public forum the way you have talked about me on this thread, maybe my standards are higher than others. People know who I am and you have questioned my competence, my integrity and much more. Still, whatever floats your boat. At least I have tried to do something to make a difference. What have you done?

I didn't want to be treasurer but I took it on an as interim measure to help out until we could get someone suitably qualified to do it. It has taken two years to get that person, not through want of trying. The thing is, it isn't very appealing driving to Glasgow straight from work on a cold November evening to attend a meeting that you know won't finish until after 9 p.m. and then have to go home and cook dinner for your family. It's annoying having to use your summer holidays getting the accounts ready to go to the auditor. It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and criticise though. I didn't say I wasn't up to the task. I said I didn't want to do it but nobody else would. My reference to travel etc was to explain why it's not easy to get people to join the Board, not a complaint from me. I don't mind it buts lots of people aren't interested. I never denied the conversation we had in the WRC. People accuse us of not being prepared to build bridges but when we do look what happens. Anyway enjoy your night in the pub. I'll probably stay on here, shovel in hand, just to annoy Maineflyer.

No offence taken although you should stop twisting my words into something they aren't. In addition, the only 'chat' I've had on FF today was to answer a plea to help with a can collection at the Motherwell game for the Davie Cooper Centre but hey-ho, just continue to make things up.

I wasn't really wondering, I think it's pretty obvious who you are. I'll just ignore your sarcasm, even if it pleases your pals so much. There is no hole, deep or otherwise so I'm unclear how I could have made something that doesn't exist far less make it bigger.