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i just dont know what to think anymore. its all so surreal.

MURRAY MUST SPEAK - TRUST The Rangers Supporters�´ Trust have called for David Murray to break his silence over the crisis engulfing the club. The Ibrox chairman has so far kept his counsel as their season plunges headlong into disaster. A disastrous start to Paul Le Guen�´s reign leaves Rangers trailing Celtic by 15 points in the league, and the CIS Insurance Cup exit at the hands of St Johnstone proved to be the final straw for some angry fans who gathered outside Ibrox calling for the heads of both the manager and chairman. RST spokesman Stephen Smith said: "The supporters are looking for leadership and someone to take responsibility. It�´s puzzling that a manager, whose second language is English, has been left to fend for himself. David Murray has so far been reluctant to step in but he has to be seen alongside his manager. The current state of affairs cannot continue." ---- Must say, I like Stephen Smith. A point well made, i think.

i fully agree.

thats what i meant to say. he was cool though, i'm sure he'd make you a good son. but aye, you're totally right about being the away team. deplorable.

no, i know. just letting you know that its fine to start whatever kind of threads you wish.

i left at 80 minutes because i wasnt sitting with my mrs and she wasn't used to ibrox - didn't want to miss her in the crowds. it was a horrible night (del and his son's good company aside). a small boy sitting next to me said "big man, you ever seen rangers play as bad as this?" to which i could only reply "no in my lifetime wee man, and certainly no in yours..". bad days.

my mates from greenock, and he hates paisley, which is good enough for me.

its definitely not a crime. feel free to create threads as you wish - just sometimes a little maintenance may be required.

no, unfortunately.

welcome aboard.

as much as i'm a fan of optimism and dreaming, this is more a time for realism and revolution. things have to change from head to toe.

sad but true.

its stupidity to think that motivation can be artificially generated. we didn't need motivated when we had a team worth shouting about - to think that rangers problems can be patched over by a condescending announcer is stupidity, imho.

cameron does my nut in. the perfect mixture of condescension, murray-approved-humour and general cringeworthiness.

because he's running the club into the ground, and anyone who cant see it is blind.

horrid horrid wretched wretched.

so true.

honestly, i can understand why there was only 18k supporters out. why would you be arsed coming out on a freezing cold tuesday night to see a second string?

aye, but if a car breaks for us, we'll go and repair it. i dont think dm sees us as broke yet.

agreed. i'll suffer hardship for a plan. if i believe in where we're going i'll do my best not to moan when, in the process of getting there, we stumble along the way. but now its aimless suffering - the fans aren't suffering for a greater good, we're suffering for imcompetence and apathy at the highest level. and its not good enough.

well done, i think he's really spoken for the fans. i do wish, though, that he'd mentioned that we need a plan as to where we're going to be in five years time instead of this constant appeasement of the moment.

thats what i was trying to say in that horribly long sentence above!

at least it gives us a better chance of winning something this season.

i'm just sad that we need to rely on a benevolent benefactor, and that we "the people" dont own our own club.

got to be hutton for me. i think bardsley may in fact be a better player, but hutton will be here after christmas, and i think i would rather have hutton with X many games extra experience, than a slightly better player for those games, then with hutton afterwards.