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Nationalist science lol. Truth’s one of the first things they have to attack.

Thanks very much for this. However, I think King was right in saying people closer to home should have stepped up and there’s no doubt his business dealings in SA would have suffered. He did what no one else was willing to do, in my view. And seemed to do it the right way. I’m sure he won’t be recouping more than he put in. However, there does seem something shady about this. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Thanks for this.

Let’s get down to brass tacks, how much for the cosh.

As far as I can tell they are advice and guidance, I’m looking for the statutes where the levels are in primary legislation. Rangers still won’t want wrong side of them.

Go proper gonzo and put a wee bit of molly is his whisky night before. He’ll either be so loved filled he’ll offer you his spot or too busy coming down the next day.

BD. Can you explain this to me? My family has been through a lot in the last few years but I’m under the impression DK should have a statue erected to him and that we’re in a bit of a financial hole, and that he has stuck to his word on every major issue. What milk does our cow currently have? Genuine question. Filling in gaps.

Do you support the Gers? the rest is happy meanderings.

Even if I’m the brunt of this the Classical knowledge on this forum is on point.

I think this was the one from when I was last here Frankie.

The aggregate. Something to be learned from all of them, even the ones that pretended to be Greeks, like the Macedonians. And the Romans.

If apples copied oranges and had a poorer artistic and intellectual tradition.

Yeah, we did a lot of bad shit but on the whole we weren’t bad at Empire.

I’ll pay you in reputation points, looks like you need them.

Fixed. for the internet police that was a joke.

The reason these football threads get derailed from football - apart from my ramblings - is because they keep politicising football.

Greeks infinitely greater than the Romans, still getting a thumbs up though.

You replace it with collectivists and it works. Don’t know about the Tory MP stuff though.

I’m a Blakean. Couldn’t be more of an idealist. However there’s a difference between hope and expectation. The only real difference that can be made is human to human. Person to person. And we’re back off down to road of groups. Doesn’t end well. All you can do is live beautifully and adventurously, and remember to be lionish with lions and lambish with lambs.

I'm not even sure I agree with myself here, there would have been a better way to answer this.

You're barking up my tree - as you can probably tell from my ressentiment comment yesterday - and I agree completely that the cults of the West we are witnessing these days are just Christianity stripped of its virtues. The scientific community aren't all that different, with their idea of progress - like history is going in some direction. However, as we know from Classics a polis can't survive unless there's a common understanding of what its values and ethics are. Britain had it good for a while, in that the middle class wanted to be upper class, and those aristos values were fundamentally Classical but clothed in the decent drapery of Christianity. Also, for all its ills, Christianity brought new virtues to the table - forgiveness and the redemptive arch. We'd be worse off without them, religious or irreligious, and that life was intrinsicially meaningful. Nietszche made the error the Romans and Greeks never would, and that was tht he thought human nature could change. Also the same error these new cults made. It doesn't. It's a constant. There's a limited value set to choose from, and then degrees of them. The whole fiasco of the West is people doing that with the shoe-horn effect. I'm happy with the words scribed on the Temple at the belly of the world "Know thyself" and "Everything in moderation" (including moderation, my addition.) However, if we don't sort out some sort of core Western values - Christianity, Enlightenment, Classical - and have it as the substrata, we are done. It ties into my point about a capitalistic ethic. It would have been uncouth to be defined by and brag about how much you've got and what you can afford to wear or put pics on Instagram of your money a short while ago, even as you were using free market economics to accumulate wealth. Anyway, thread sufficiently derailed.

For anyone ever caught in that situation timely reminder that the police don't know the law, and the words you are looking for are "no comment".

Realise this isn't going to be popular, But I just don't care about the bit of rioting. I'm basically Victorian in my public dealings, and believe civilisation and civilised behaviour is that to which we should aspire. However, this is what we've chosen collectively as a society - you got your tooth punched out? Free denture or whatever. You got your leg stomped? Free treatment. No need to think before or after those decisions, state's got it for you. Somewhere along the lines we became a fundamentally nihilistic society, where there were almost no societal - i.e. not headlines that will affect you, but actual shame from peers - for bad behaviour. It's where we've chosen to go. There's also a slight beauty in anarchy, and it reminds our masters that in the right situation we can't be contained. It's a shame it's over something as petty as a lost football game, but there you go. Capitalism already has the answer for any private property broken - the insurance industry - and it's not lke the state care about throwing money at things. The police get to do what they instinctively want to do most, have a chance to exert their power and give a few beatings. Everyone's a winner. It's what happens when you have a capitalistic ethic replacing a capitalist economy, with no over-arching narrative (say Christianity, but pick whatever) to bind us together, and underwrite the losses with socialist policies that killed two parent households and made people be weak to get money. Yobs, shouldn't have happened. Inevitable it did. We move on.

Turned off fter the last pen.While I agree manliness is in sore deficit genereally, highest of highs, lowest of lows, carrying a whole nation on your back and you let them down. Younger players who missed the pens hopefully.

what was it?