PoohBear

As much as I'm not a fan of what I've seen from lammers, it's pretty clear that if he is utilised correctly then he can do a good job. If we aren't able to sell him then we will have to use him, but there is no point playing him out of position, unless we want to destroy any chance of selling him in the future.

5 hours ago, Rousseau said:

I liked the profile of Cordoba, but I always thought he looked extremely clumsy on the clips I saw. 

His YouTube videos that I saw were genuinely awful, I couldn’t work out how half of the clips were labeled as highlights. Of course, if he signed he would be genuine class for us, but I hear he’s off to Norwich so he’s shit now.

31 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

 

It’s the sensible thing to do. Unfortunate it didn’t work out for him with us, I don’t understand the complete change in his form, but let’s try and get some money whilst we can.

6 minutes ago, CammyF said:

If the refs are crap, why don't Celric suffer the same terrible decisions as we do in OF games? 

 

When was the last time we were awarded a penalty at Parkhead? 

 

When was the last time Celtic had a player red carded in an OF game at Parkhead? 

 

If the club can rationally point out the bad decisions, then it won't be paranoid ramblings. 

 

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy,  it just appears they receive more decisions in big games than we do. I think the evidence points to that as well.

This is from the Celtic forums when the ball hit Davies' hand, I don't want Rangers or our fans sounding anything like these paranoid idiots, and honestly it's starting to sound extremely familiar on Rangers forums. Concentrate on the real problems, our shite squad.

"That’s a penalty if it was on the other end of the pitch."

"Beaton you dirty cheating wee carrot man. After the Hearts thing as well..you dirty cheating carrot man"

"Yeh. We're getting nothing from VAR today. That's two penalties not given.

Both of them would have been given up the other end."

"VAR saying nothing in it, but up the other end we’d get done for it"

"Are we getting another variation of the law when it suits the team in blue?"

"That could be a penalty btw. Hand outstretched and made himself bigger. Davies is lucky there. And by lucky, I mean lucky Beaton is on VAR."

"Unbelievable. 

When it’s clear cheating, why are we accepting it? It’s not debatable. It’s a handball. Shocking levels of cheating."

22 minutes ago, CammyF said:

 I don't know if it's bias or not, nobody does other than those responsible for the decisions. 

 

It's certainly now out of the "honest mistake" category as its happening far to often. 

Honestly, I'm very confused by what you are saying, one sentence contradicts the next. If you think there is bias and cheating against us, then admit you think there is a conspiracy against us. If this is happening every OF game in your mind then it's not just one bad apple, it's a concerted effort.

I just think these decisions are the result of our appalling system, and the lack of quality in refs that we have. I'd love some proper proposals to improve referees, but I certainly don't want any paranoid ramblings from the club. 

8 minutes ago, CammyF said:

But of that goal wasn't disallowed yesterday, we'd have won the cup. The refereeing decisions are costing us points and trophies.

Massively misleading statement. You have no idea if we would have won the cup had the goal stood, I think our squad is more than capable of letting a one goal lead slip.

As I said, there is a reasonable amount of doubt in the evidence you've provided and if there was bias then why wouldn't the ref blow for a pen on the Davies incident?

I want the club to act rationally now, put all our resources to good use to try and build a title winning squad. All this stuff is a distraction from the job that is really required.

17 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Where have I been ambiguous? I think we are on the wrong end of refereeing  / VAR decisions and there is evidence to show this to be true. 

 

That's all I'm saying. 

 

Only the Referee's and / or SFA can tell us if they are being biased against Rangers. It really doesn't matter what you or I think. 

 

I don't think anyone is using the incorrect decision to mask how poor we are as a team or club. 

 

Maybe our Chairman will come out of hiding and actually tell us what the club think on referees and how we are going to ensure the squad / injury situation is rectified.

All the decisions are against us, there is no way this would happen to Celtic, the refs are biased..... you've stated all these things yet you are saying it's not a conspiracy. It's ambiguous for sure, or rather the only ambiguity is your claim that you don't think it's a conspiracy. Anyway, I just hope we spend more time improving ourselves as a squad, we've been shite against them for way too long and we need a massive improvement.

22 minutes ago, CammyF said:

I've clearly stated in numerous posts what I think. 

 

I think we are on the receiving end of bizarre refereeing and VAR decisions especially in OF games whilst Celtic aren't.

 

I don't think I'm being ambiguous in stating what I believe is happening. 

 

I'm also clear in believing that a referee who openly supports one of the teams participating in the Cup final shouldn't be allowed to referee it. 

You are being ambiguous mate, everything you are saying indicates that you think there is a conspiracy against rangers, but yet you keep saying that you don't believe there is a conspiracy. 
 

Regardless, I just don't want Rangers to turn into paranoid nut jobs like we've seen Celtic be. For me it's very clear what the problem is, the problem is we are shit. Blaming anything else on our failings only makes things worse for us, it gives us a way to accept this mediocre set of results, to say that we can't win, it's self limiting.

4 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

 

5'2" Raskin 😂 You'd hope we did our due diligence before signing him.

45 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Step forward Sam Adrianus Martinus Lammers!!

We definitely need to sell him, he's had a great second half of the season and surely there will be teams willing to buy him. The risk is high if he comes back, he may not perform again and we will be stuck with him.

5 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

Well, why did you think that it was directed to you then?

I didn't say that, I said no-one is excusing referees mistakes. Again, you might read.

45 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

Nobody is going to give you a little pat on the head for excusing the referee's mistakes.

No one is excusing referees mistakes, I'm certainly not. You might try reading mate.

There is a massive problem if Rangers board/management start thinking there is bias against them, they lose focus on the fact that we are a shite team that needs completely rebuilt. Instead of doing the real job of overhauling this team, they will end up focusing energy on something that should remain on internet forums. I hope to god that no one at Rangers thinks the team did ok there and it’s only the ref that stopped us winning, we were shite and we couldn’t even win against the worst I have seen Celtic in years. It’s time to cut out the losers, unfortunately that’s the whole team, I love Tav but he has to go, they all do quite honestly. The focus is to now put together a quality team.

Id be happy to see an entirely new squad with none coming back to be honest.

29 minutes ago, CammyF said:

No, you are putting words in my mouth. There is no way that goal would have been chopped of at the other end. We all know that. 

 

I'm not saying it's bias, it's just reality of the situation.

But… you are saying it’s bias.

17 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Stop it, it was a stone wall penalty apparently. 

 

As you correctly say, the ball is deflected onto Davies hand - can't believe anyone (especially a Rangers fan) believed it was a penalty. 

I never said it was a penalty, but it could have been given as one easily and we wouldn't have been able to complain about it (without looking like sour faced losers) because it's the refs interpretation and we did touch the ball with our hand.

You may not be saying "conspiracy" out loud, but what do you mean when you say "The question to ask yourself is if it was up the other end, would the outcome have been the same? The answer off course is no. " - you clearly are saying there is bias. I simply don't think there is. The refs are just shite through and through, I've been seeing Celtic fans saying every season that the refs won't allow them to win the league, or they win it despite the bias against them. It's bollocks as far as I'm concerned.

I am fully on board with any ideas on how to improve the refs however, they are absolute dross.

Everyone conveniently ignoring that we handled the ball in our own box and got away with it. The ref conspiracy theories are boring, even more boring than just how shit if a team we've become.

5 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Exactly and other why they get these decisions and we don't

 

Time to fight fire with fire - the evidence is there and its time to call them out. 

 

Board are as week as p1ss though so it won't happen anytime soon

What are you expecting to be called out? Rankin pushed Hart, there is nothing that can be won by calling anything out other than looking like a bunch of sore losers. 
 

We got away with a handball in the box that I would have been screaming for if it was against us. Football is a game where the referee is given scope to apply their interpretation of the rules, it just happens that our refs are shit.

Now if you're saying Rangers should be suggesting ways to improve refereeing then I would be fully on board with you, but any crying and wailing about bias is for internet forums only.

Diomande is a loose cannon, always worth a card.

I think there is no comeback for these players. Unfortunately I think it might be the same now for Cantwell and the like too, I said when they were signed we should be keeping them away from those with a loser mentality as it seeps through the squad like a disease. A clean slate is what we need.

Wank

2 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

They've missed two pushes by Scales. 

And I've seen handballs like the one Davies did given plenty of times. It's just shit officiating mate. Some of the worst.

Just now, Rousseau said:

Funny that, eh? 

Ah, I mean it's not surprising it's poorly officiated but I don't think there is any conspiracy against us to be honest. Go on to the Celtic forums and they all rant about a ref conspiracy against themselves too.

Wow, there is VAR, this has been very poorly officiated.

Just now, Rousseau said:

I'm waiting for it to be chalked off... 

Mine was a genuine question, is there VAR?