Walterbear

I liked Holt at Hearts and he gives a lot of energy to the team. Type of player who doesn’t down tools when it’s not going well which is something we really need.

I agree compo. If we could defend without losing the attacking threat of John and Tav we have enough middle to front to cause a lot of problems for teams. Goalkeeper has gone way up my list of requirements and we have been missing a strong pacey CH for a long time. Also replacing Hill with Alves was bad business on reflection.

He was booed because he betrayed the club and fans he supported and who had payed for the relative wealth his family enjoys. Unlike Rangers players who are booed at Pittodrie and other grounds whilst representing their country. I used to think Richard Gordon was OK but in the last couple of years he has definitely been on a mission and been using a public broadcasting service for a personal agenda. He should join Radio Clyde if that’s the game he wants to play. He is not fit for purpose as a BBC employee.

Need a keeper too. We’d has lost too many goals top keepers would save.

Good point buster. Maybe they are not good enough to be farmed out to decent clubs. If I was a decent player I’d rather be farmed out to the championship or Div 1 in England than to clubs like Hibs or Aberdeen.

The fact we are able to tender for our own kit deals and choose from 10 bids is a massive step forward from a year ago. This board may have made errors but I am pretty sure they are capable of running a kit tendering process, assessing against criteria and selecting the best deal. It’s not the most complicated procurement exercise. Anyone who says otherwise will need to provide analysis of numbers and contract commitments. No one here can do that so not sure why the negativity. Let’s hope however daft bonuses are not given to anyone for what should be a straightforward process. This deal will make us stronger and is another step out of the football hell we have resided in since 2012. It is churlish to suggest otherwise.

I think his demeanour is just if someone who is very demanding of himself and sleays appears disappointed he hasn’t done better. Nothing wrong with that.

His career as a pro footballer was defined by a lack of ambition (he could not possibly improve himself going through the leagues in Scotland) and as a leader of Rangers he has been non-existent on the park. Some say he has been loyal, my personal view is he has lived well within his comfort zone and is not the kind of person we need at the club now.

The captain should come out and say that the players need to do better and that the feeling is unanimous. That would demonstrate the solidarity we desperately need right now. Given the lack of leadership at the club I wouldn’t hold my breath.

I wonder what Tom English and his ilk would do if they saw someone collapsed in the street. Probably feck all then write a story about it.

Not so much as chasing losses as underestimating the required investment and nit having the wherewithal to make that investment. They do have the collective resources of that there is no doubt. Unfortunately for them and any other leaders of big clubs in any country when you put your hat in the ring you’d better be ready to spend / find a lot of money. Since 2012 well over £150m in share issues, season tickets, soft loans, has been made available to Rangers. We have been conned for a lot of the time but it’s incredible to think tha after all that we have such a mediocre product on the park. Well the spivs have gone now. There can be no more excuses for this Board. Fix it or your legacy is at serious risk.

Very good summary Frankie. I never thought this would be a quick ‘going for 55’ and 3 years in the top flight would be realistic before serious challenge. Despite some good achievements off the park the playing side has been shambolic and delayed progress to the point that we will be extremely fortunate to reverse the trend with Celtic before 2022. Perhaps that will make it more special but unfortunately a few thousand Bears will have passed on by then. Ive seen all the words and anguish from various fan groups, we all also have our own views on where the problems are at a higher level and it is largely irrelevant because we are at the stage where actions speak louder than words and the empowered people are the only ones who can act in a meaningful way. I will take up a ST this year (didn’t previously for work reasons) and I hope others do the same as our money is desperately needed. What we must remember however is that despite the Board / 3 Bears putting millions in they are actually getting an investment and a potential return for their money to go along with the great privilege of sitting in the Board room. For everyone else we get to rent a small plastic seat in the rain every fortnight and often on days that don’t suit due to TV and it represents a relatively greater donation than for most board members The board need to do a lot lot more (within FFP rules) than they have been doing. It isn’t about money for them it is about legacy and what they will be remembered for in the future. If they do not do something pretty special now then that legacy will be a poor one. The success of removing Ashley and the spivs is yesterday’s achievement. Right now they are stagnating and the most obvious evidence of that is keeping the unfortunate Murty in the role of manager since they sacked Caxinha. They didn’t ‘give’ Rangers all the money they have and it is their fault for whatever portion of that money (as well as fans money and the fans did ‘give’) that has been squandered. Any bonuses dished out to senior management should be handed back as a first step (won’t happen but should happen). This is not now the fault of Warburton, Caxinha, Murty, Wallace, Miller, Barton, Pena. It is the fault of the Board. Fix it it or be remembered for mediocrity and a Rangers competing at a level along with Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts. If we compete at that level for too long we will capsize given our overheads. It’s now or never.

Agree with all of this but part of the remit must be to call out our own when they step out of line. That would give more substance to such an initiative. We must not simply defend Rangers but call out the malicious detractors in the most public but legal and respectful manner. The platform must obviously be social media and it will take some serious professional input and energy to turn this round. It makes sense for 1872 to be the vehicle with support and funding from the club. 1872 perhaps needs to amend its raision detre to accommodate and have clear delineation between the body questioning the club and the part of it that needs support from the club and it’s resources. I for one would volunteer and give my time to assist a constructive initiative in any way that helps. I am sure there are many like me. There is nothing stopping this happening.

The range of offences a yellow card covers is absurd. Always felt there should be some kind of 3 card system. You could commit a reckless foul and cause serious injury and get a yellow. You can take your shirt off and get a yellow. Bonkers.

PDH better than FDB imo.

Seriously it’s an absolute joke. Time for foreign refs.

Must just be me but what I picked up was that he wanted us to beat celtic on Sunday. The rest is just journalistic interpretation with words such as ‘vehement’ thrown in. Whatever ones view of Weir may be he strikes me as a balanced sort but a journo prefers words such as ‘vehement’ when Weir may have been steadfast. Journos. What to a journo is ‘clear as mud’ is really to other people ‘confidential non-disclosure’. And yes the departure was ‘acrimonious’ in the journos words but I can easily interpret that as both sides could have done better and that is a source of regret. Big deal - it’s happened to us all. The question is do we learn and move on and avoid recurrence of the same mistakes. Non story imo.

Yep. And hopefully Graeme can go and do something else and the more significant Mr Park can put his significant weight into Rangers business plan.

It’s usually hard to second guess but I’d read it as : 1. We have a significant business strategy. 2. It needs experienced business leadership to oversee implementation and to take accountability. 3. King feels he can’t do that from SA and has already stated he has lots of other business interests occupying him in SA. 4. Park is best placed given his diverse successful business background. He also has offspring who can look after his own empire. 5. It needs additional focus, push and energy & that could be for a variety of reasons (capability, time pressure, significance & scale of plans) etc. I’m not a fan of Robertson but I don’t read it as a criticism of him but I don’t also see him as having the experience & background to lead and be the figurehead of something of real business significance. They’ve also just given him a substantial bonus. He is more of a finance Director than a MD imo. I am sure Park will give him plenty to do! I would suggest it is no more than agreeing greater clarity within the Board. The fact it states King requested this is interesting but both men have clearly agreed to this. I would view it as a good move and supports a view that we have ambition to do things. There is something in our governance and structure and capability that may be hindering the pace and time is obviously urgent.

Players are entitled to stand their ground. It’s written in the laws of football. Simulation is a deliberate attempt to con the ref into thinking a foul has been committed. That too is there black and white. Morelos left his feet in the direction he was going and the goalie rushed out across Morelos path. Leaving your foot in if you are standing your ground isn’t an offence. It’s not written anywhere in the rule book. In the speed of the game I can see how the ref might have thought initially it was a dive but if he had taken a moment to look at the prone keeper he should have reassessed. Just shiite refereeing imo. We really need refs to explain their decisions. Fans have paid £100ks to watch that game and get no explanation.

“But for some reason we can't do that here which is a sad indictment.” its not ‘for some reason’ it’s because Celtic fans went mental last time with their usual lack of sporting integrity. They simply can’t be trusted in such a fixture because even in this day and age they still think they are fighting a real war. They can’t be trusted at Ibrox and they certainly cant be trusted in their own dump. Our players and officials simply would not be safe. They can’t lose with dignity but almost uniquely they can’t win with dignity. Once your fans and players show they can handle such a fixture the authorities might think about it Brendan. Until then remember it’s YOUR fans who created this situation so YOU need to suggest what steps your club will take to ensure you can behave on such an occasion. Its a sad indictment of YOUR fans not a sad indictment on the world.

Think Murray raises his game. Irratic player of limited ability. Dundee probably his level. We played too deep in the first half. When that was rectified Dundee didnt handle it. We made them look better than they are by giving them space and our goals came from pressing higher and overlapping. Getting the first goal for us is also important as are mentally fragile. Im not overly confident about next week whatever way we play but don’t see sitting in as an option based on yesterday. I think we have to take it as a one off and go for them. Hope we can somehow open up a 2 goal gap. If you take the best parts of yesterday and the best parts of the Motherwell draw we have a team that can create chances. I’m convinced if we are positive we will get half a dozen decent chances next week and you never know. If we sit in they will beat us anyway as we can’t defend for 90 mins agains them and without any prospect of us scoring it will be very depressing. If the last 2 games taught us anything (and the OF game) we are a much better team going forward and pressing high as per the 0-0 at the midden.

Safe to say the suspicion of bias isn’t down to total paranoia (although there is a fair bit of that with all footie fans). The trouble as I understand is that the rewards are so high for individuals that professionalism has suffered and a desire to please reaps rich rewards. Guys like Richard Gordon are consummate professionals except with regard to Rangers. Him declaring he is from a ‘Rangers hating family’ on the airwave of a public broadcaster paid for in no small part by Rangers fans can only be explained by the deep rooted culture of dislike that currently exists in the BBC and a desire to please. There has always been folk who disliked Rangers particularly the sectarian employment policy we once had and Archie himself was rightly not slow to criticise us for that but despite us correctly changing that policy it has perversely gone to a more open acceptance of a dislike for us because of individuals in certain positions and the culture that has grown in that organisation. Post 2012 BBC employees and self employed contributors many of whom openly dislike Rangers are getting at Rangers because in their view they are doing what the SFA failed to do i.e. remove our club. This is their way of marginalising us and doing what they thought the football authorities should have done. Not for them the opinions of legal authorities and clearly stated rules of the SFA and SPL (SPFL) The series of almost defamatory pieces on Ally McCoist, the blatant bias of their reports from Easter Road and Ibrox, the imagery of decay which went with the original Daly piece on 2012, the ignoring or minimalising of Rangers on reports despite attendances of 50,000 are due in large part because you have an emboldened staff in an organisation that is biased at the top and wants to please the people who pay them. It is professional suicide to be pro-Rangers in the BBC but it’s OK to be pro any other club. Odd when we are the biggest club in the country but not so odd if you think about where the power in BBC Scotland lies and who holds that power.

The atmosphere has changed because the folk at the top don’t like Rangers. Not paranoia but fact. I’m not asking them to support Rangers and be uncritical of our performances but treat the tens of 1000s of Rangers fans who pay their wages with a bit of respect. They have lost there way in understanding what their purpose is and are so mired in privilege and high wages that they think they are better than they are. Their product is shoddy in quality and unashamedly biased. You have to pinch yourself when you remember they are public servants and we pay their wages.

Taller than Klos and Goram.