Devil's advocaat

3 hours ago, CammyF said:

I'd like to see Barasic play tomorrow as Ridvan look absolutely shattered on Thursday. So much so, he attempted a long throw into the box and it landed at his feet.

If Ridvan had dropped 2 acid and wore a dress for the match, I'd still have him playing before Barisic.

It's basically a cup final, no away goals rule, first tie is now irrelevant. Just play the game to win it.

Without a doubt, dreadful. 

Aye, there's merit in that. We do tend to focus on our own injuries, understandably, but the pot lickers have it just as bad at the moment. 

34 minutes ago, Whosthedado said:

I'm in this mind frame too but they might just not fancy it or have an off night. I don't think us going out would be the end of the world league wise either

I get you, but I think still being in Europe helps the players feel ten feet tall, as Bill rightly says. Confidence is fuel.

Sing about Rangers, fuck everything else.

2 hours ago, Malangsob said:

I intimated F all. 

 

My words

 

 

 

 I never stated that Rangers give four year deals to all, most, any or the majority of 30+ players.

 

It is my believe that THIS 30+ year old player...John Lundstram...will receive that kind of deal. 

 

 

 

 

Lol, whatever 😂

3 hours ago, Malangsob said:

Asked about a possible contract renewal, Lundstram said: “I have never shied away from saying how much I love the club and I would love to stay but it is obviously between me and the club to sort it out.

 

“I hope so (it is in the pipeline) of course, but that’s between me and the club, but I would love to stay.”

 

https://www.rangersreview.co.uk/news/24024878.id-love-stay---john-lundstram-opens-rangers-contract-talks/

 

I'de bet my prized pig that John is gettin a 4 year offer. 

That we don't know, but you intimate that we always give 30+ players a 4 year contract, I'm merely saying that we don't in my experience.

Aye, pictures tell whatever story you want. The guy went in with both feet off the ground, and when your feet are higher than your arse, at the speed he was coming in at, you make the refs decision easy.

57 minutes ago, Malangsob said:

Rangers always overshoot the LZ.

 

Over 30...A 2 year deal is fair.

 

But it will be 4.

To be honest, with the exception of Goldson (was he over 30 at the time?), I'm struggling to think of any over 30s that we've chucked 4 years at?.

24 minutes ago, Whosthedado said:

Them 

Agreed, they are utter shite, I wish we had them next week.

Raskin is definitely a player, but since his injury he's looked ponderous at best. I think he'll benefit from a full pre season, and hopefully the competition he now has will drive him on.

56 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

If he was happy to renew for 2 years at 20k a week it’s a no brainer. If he wants 30k a week for 3 years it’s a no thanks. 

This.

And there's no big if around Roofe, times up sadly.

4 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I'm not seeing much celebrating about last night's result.  Most of us are just pleased the tie is still in the balance and happy to be competing with teams of that standard.  

Absolutely, it's nothing like being near to celebrating failure.

1 hour ago, Gonzo79 said:

Prefer high waisted shorts to necks and arms covered in drawings, holey socks and love heart goal celebrations, any day of the week.  

Christ, you'll be wanting to exhume auld Montford anaw! 😆

15 hours ago, Malangsob said:

I think ‘UEFA Cup’ makes more sense and sounds better.

It was indeed a thing.

Back in the day, we had the European cup, for league winners only, UEFA cup was for 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th IIRC, and Cup Winners Cup was for National cup winners. If UC was brought back, it would be the prime trophy now IMHO.

1 hour ago, Malangsob said:

I have often asked this question. It's not a champion's league.

It's a champion and top contender league.

It has been for 33 years now, if the UEFA cup was brought back, it would be the top competition.

It's fairly simple to my mind. To question, or expect better from referees as a whole is fine, we're paying customers after all. To chase a referee, after the event, to harass him outside of the football realm, to blame failure of our team over a season on someone, well that's your personal choice, and you leave yourself open to criticism in my opinion.

Really there's no answer, no defining line, it's up to you how you carry yourself. 

Anyway, I've work to do, enjoy the rest of yer day.

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

But to be clear and to put a line under this

It'd be the first time you've put a line under something!

40 minutes ago, CammyF said:

 

If Gonzo was to call someone yahooesque whilst sitting amongst Bears at Ibrox, or an away ground for slating a refs decision or performance, I'd bet he'd get a more robust response 😀

Moaning at a ref during the game is perfectly normal.

It's carrying that on for weeks after the event, looking into said ref to see who his father was, that kind of behaviour that is very, very yahooesque.

I for one hope the Jambos get a couple of yahoo-esque penalties at the weekend. 😉

6 minutes ago, Bill said:

The money and effort invested in youth players has only one objective - to produce players for the first team squad

Mibbe 20 years ago, nowadays the big teams produce talent to use as makeweights in FFP, to fund buying other players, or to fulfil homegrown requirements. It's a complete racket, just look at how many homegrown players Man U or Chelsea had on the park last night. Liverpool have a decent youth academy, but they also have a team full of injured players, needs must. Chelsea could even buy players that they've sold on back, and still call them homegrown.

Sad state of affairs.

EPL teams youth academies are bound to churn out players, the sheer size of them is incredible, they hoover up everything that is around. IIRC it was Palace that chucked theirs, as Chelsea and Arsenal were taking everything locally.

We shouldn't compare ourselves to the EPL, aspire by all means, but don't compare.