Devil's advocaat

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Simple answer if an employee messes up he has to go the same rule would apply to the whole workforce at Ibrox.

Wouldn't be many folk left at any place I've ever worked, defence, aviation or pharma, if this was the case.

Jordan Jones is an idiot, always has been, we took a punt on him and it predictably didn't work out, we owe him nothing (that's not to say we owe these other boys anything).

From folk at Killie that know him, first thing he did when signing with us was selling his car, as he couldn't trust himself to head back down to NE England to go on the razz with his pals after games.

It would be foolish in the extreme to punt these boys, by holding our self to some higher moral standard than any other club. 

On 20/02/2021 at 17:04, elfideldo said:

Having watched three of the five since they were 12 years old I found it particularly disappointing. I don't think Dapo has ever been in the first team bubble,

There is no bubble, very few sports have bubbles, F1 and a few others, the players return home to their families after training, football only has an exception for training games and competitive games. At all other times, even at training and in dressing room, they have to comply with the same workplace distancing that the rest of us do.

He was clearly heard to say the words 'would of' last night.

A sacking offence.

Entonox Bill, a tad cheaper and easier to self administer. ?

Uilleam, good article, thanks for that.

Sounds horrific, I don't think any of us who have been fortunate enough not to suffer from mental illness can ever really understand how it affects those who sadly have. In such circumstances I'll avoid passing my opinion, as it's irrelevant, about as much use as my opinion on cricket, inner city race issues or the constitution of Ecuador.

I don't think we should use this as a vehicle to get rid of anyone as the rheptiles did with bolingoli, if he's not good enough, punt him for that, not because he's been stupid. A certain Geordie would never have had a career at Ibrox if we'd got shot any time he did something stupid, and many others like him.

I agree with you regarding the youngsters, punish and see if they learn from their mistake. Young Nathan's family don't come out of this well, claiming he was at home when he clearly wasn't. 

I've no idea. It may be that he lives in the same authority as them, stood at their garden gate, met and went a walk with them, none of that is against the rules. The fact it was him that brought it up, I assumed he was trying to get those questions asked, but then maybe not, he's no the sharpest.

There is no elite bubble Craig, elite sports merely has an exemption when across the line, whether in training, or in a game. At any other time, it's the same rules as us plebs, no bubble.

Daft young boys chasing their nat king? Twas ever thus.

1 hour ago, RabiDuck said:

So a story breaks that names nobody, there's a vague rumour that Ranger's players are involved but no details.  And the BBC are asking the First Minister about it? Seriously?

Yep, that's how they work. Somehow despite the question being given short shrift, this is now the top story on BBC Scotland news page.

Aye, she swatted that stupid question away, BBC continue to be an utter embarrassment. 

Aye, BBC report almost suggesting that the players in question should have to leave the club as per Jones and big George.

Apart from the beggars binning Bolingoli (because he was shite) this hasnt exactly been the norm elsewhere.

Aye, rumours are Bassey, paterson and 3 youths.

Not the most intelligent decision, SG will be fizzing.

17 hours ago, Bill said:

I think it's unfair the way journalists get such unjustified criticism. There seems to be a complete lack of understanding about the role of a journalist, including a daft notion that they exist to report facts and to do so accurately. In fact, as more fully informed people know perfectly well, the role of the journalist is simply to fill column inches while in the process avoiding legal liability. In that respect, accuracy is totally irrelevant and to expect it is to miss the point completely.

I agree Bill, to be honest, I'm not really that interested in reading about transfer speculation*, although I admit I'm in the minority. The EPL fans in particular seem to have transfers and the window as their main interest.

I'd far rather read in depth analysis of matches, formations, playing styles, but that seems to be beyond the average UK journalist and indeed pundit too.

*Yes, I see the irony of posting that on a transfer rumours thread, but it's Rangers!

Jelavic was outstanding for us, similar to Morelos, and Cousin on occasion, in that on his game he was unplayable. 

16 hours ago, craig said:

My best mate stays in Prestwick.  I have considered it for when I move back home - I like the vibe in the town.  Bloody expensive to buy property there though

If ye hold off about 7 or 8 years, you can buy mine when the wee yin moves out, and me n the missus move nearer the mountains! ?

4 hours ago, craig said:

I'm from Ayrshire, lived in Killie for a couple of years and also played for Killie Boys Club when I was younger (Gary Holt played alongside me) - but I wouldn't be overly disappointed if they went down - primarily because Billy Bowie is a but also because I am still seething that they replaced one of the best pitches in Scottish football with that monstrosity of a plastic pitch.

Aye, I feel exactly the same, I'm just down the road in Prestwick, their fans do my nut in, love to see them going down.

Killie are looking like the team that's heading for bother this season, if Hamilton pull of their usual escape act, even if not, i don't think Killie will fancy a play off against Raith, Dunfermline or Dundee.

Fantastic record, we've went from having potential to a team that is now living up to that, and it's all down to Mr G, Gary Mac, Beales and the rest of their team.

 I'm fed up of hearing this shite from the press that the beggars fans are the 12th man, and our fans are negative, and that's had a bearing on this league. Even if that whataboutery was the case, then that goes to show when it's all stripped back, 11v11, mano a mano, we horsed them.

My only regret from this season is that Gerard won't get what he truly deserves, and has earned in spades - a Full Ibrox erupting with ecstasy and the release of the last 9 years, and hearing the Bears raucously singing his name.

We'll just have to do it all over again next season #56.

1 hour ago, the gunslinger said:

6 hours ago, compo said:

 

if that is the case we are out of europe.

It's not the case, the exceptions for elite sports still stands.

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Well I got told of f for calling Jones and Edmundson muppets for what they did

I'd have wholeheartedly agreed with you there tbh, that was off the park with time to think about your actions. Quite different.

We're doing things correctly I'd imagine, being 100% professional as we have been throughout, unlike other clubs. See Duffy frinstance, playing days after going  all over the place. Tbf, he's used to being all over the place, but still.

I see AVB has offered his resignation as he didn't want Ntcham. The toxicity of the brand is evident!.

I definitely see Helander as more of a long term option than Balogun, unless we get offered daft money for him, obviously. Looking at the transfer market, it looks like daft money isn't common though in the current circumstances, who knows how long for too.