Devil's advocaat

Of course a balance is required, but right now we're not short of experienced players, we need to up the number of young, hungry players who are willing to learn and improve their game. I'd far rather see us sign Barron from the sheep than McLean, granted he's not as good a player right now, but at we have to develop young signings to gain a better team and more value in the squad. This should also alleviate our ridiculous wage bill - Apparently higher than Atalanta's.

Youan from Hibs isn't a bad buy at £2.5M as well btw, he's done well in a shite team.

Anyway, all of this is pure conjecture, McLean is probably just the usual lazy rumour.

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

But to state a player who played almost every minute for Norwich this season, was their POTY and a n international player, can't cut it elsewhere

We better bring back Lammers then, he's roasted the Eredivisie. 😉

12 hours ago, CammyF said:

But you said he can't cut it elsewhere which is blatantly untrue. 

It's not really, did you watch him when they were in the PL? he was in his 20s then, and wasn't particularly impressive. I'd rather sign players that shone in a brighter, more technical league than the championship. Kamara made it look easy.

If it wasn't for Butland, Tav would probably be our player of the year, but I wouldn't sign him, would you?.

It's okay to have a different opinion to yours Cammy.

1 hour ago, alexscottislegend said:

Do you mean Erhahon? He's in League One and recently was voted their player of the year for Lincoln I think. Wouldn't be expensive. Not a bad shout.

No, young Scots lad that went south last season.

Edit- Dylan Reid, 19, went to Palace. No idea how he's doing, but he certainly looked a good un.

3 hours ago, CammyF said:

Kenny McLean can't cut it elsewhere?

 

Played the entire season for Norwich (close to 50 games) and played 7 times for Scotland this season. 

 

On a low fee, he is a decent option. However with 2 years left of his contract, can't see it happening. 

He's 32. Not for me, I couldn't care less what he did in the championship.

Kenny McLean is a naw for me, we need to stop being a retirement home for Bears that can no longer cut it elsewhere. What happened to the young midfielder that left St Mirren last year, the one that knocked back Tenko?.

59 minutes ago, yuddie said:

If he's 32 instead of 22 I'd get the money motivation

Many players will (rightly or wrongly) see Norwich as an easier passage to the riches of the EPL than going via Govan. This is sadly viewed as the real prize nowadays by your average footballer, not the CL.

It's a job, it's a short career, I don't grudge players a wage tbh, it's not players that have made the game the way it is. If someone wants to come to us, make a name for themselves and move on for big bucks, then it's a win win.

2 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

I've intentionally avoided watching league matches at the Piggery in the past but never thought I'd see the day where I avoid watching a cup final but I'm the same as you - seriously considering doing something else. 

Christ, I've not watched a game against them for years!

10 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

My ex wife is a Capetonian - you deliberately on the wind up!  😡  🤣

So you actually have met a nice South African? 😉

17 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

Some nerd will have the stats but I was never a fan of Candeias.  Some of his crosses were up there with the worst I've seen.

At least you can spell Candeias 

I'd imagine Clements comments relate to the lack of physical conditioning, which then means players struggle to meet the requirements demanded in a busy season, and break down. He hinted at this in comments about wanting players to be able to cope with 2 or 3 games in a week.

IME you can't really change this mid season, that'll just result in fatigue and injuries too. I think the result is that our squad are in for a busy pre season.

52 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

Change the offside law to the whole of the back foot clearly behind the offside line instead of any part of the body

I always preferred the clear daylight way we did it for a while (I heard talk recently of this coming back?) as it results in more of a positive effect on the game, ie more chances/goals.

I agree that the spontaneity is definitely affected, but the CL* in the main manages to keep the game flowing far better than either our league or the EPL does. As a team who are generally in the opponents box more than our own, VAR will always result in a net positive for us.

* I believe that's due to it being semi automated.

VAR just needs to be better, not banned. 

6 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

 

 

I've been asking for our players to snap that lot for years, so not going to give him too much grief about the sending off.  Just wished he'd hit the ugly wee c*** harder.

Which with VAR is never going to do us any favours, as we seen. We could do with just competing with them, not allowing them to waltz past on a regular basis.

4 hours ago, Rousseau said:

Not one month ago you voted to renew his contract. 

Fickle? Moi?. 😎

I thought Bill was the vote polis, not you! 

Spot on. Lundstram can go too, 2 very good spells in 4 seasons isn't what we require. 

Aye, agreed. Injuries haven't been kind to him, but over the piece he's been a cracking player.

1 hour ago, Tannochsidebear said:

Given how lucrative this is, plus he and his family are settled here, there is absolutely no chance he is going to be away this year.

A Saudi wage will blow that all away. It's a decision for him and his family future now tbh, overall he's been a great signing, but I wouldn't be disappointed to see him leave. We've kept too many over the years.

We need to be on it form the word go, we've given them a head start too bloody often. 

30 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

I guess what I'm trying to say is we don't have to rip everything up. There are weaknesses in our squad, but its core is capable of winning the League Cup, reaching the Scottish Cup Final, the last 16 in Europe and taking the title to the final weeks. Some judicious improvement might be all that's required. 

Absolutely.

I think Clement has been a bit of a victim of his own success, I mean no one had us anywhere near the title when he came in, then we gave him zero budget in january, but now we're disappointed as it feels like we chucked a very good position - that his management took us to. 

Jack Grealish has 3 goals and 3 assists in 35 matches, but brings plenty to the overall team. We can't just go by stats, it's good, but it isn't everything. I feel Cantwell can do a lot better, but I'm not hanging him out to dry yet.

Always two ways of looking at it, I'd be disappointed in Cantwell was okay with not playing. Maybe you could question his going public with it, but social media is all part of these guys careers now.

Work hard and get yersel back in, son.

The Danny Armstrong rumour seems to be growing, another Jordan Jones....

I stopped wearing tops at the age of 30, a conscious decision that was taken, and tbh since then I've kinda lost interest in what our kits look like 😆