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ian1964

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  1. PREJUDICE and bigotry is the scourge of society but don’t single out some and turn a blind eye to others. By Colin Duncan 10:58, 26 NOV 2014 THE widespread condemnation which followed Wigan chairman Dave Whelan’s alleged racist and anti-Semitic outburst last week was understandable. His Alf Garnett-esque comments in the wake of appointing Malky Mackay manager added to the outrage . Mackay is subject to an FA probe, investigating texts and emails of a racist, sexist and homophobic nature. The anti-discriminatory bodies didn’t miss Whelan who could now find himself in the dock alongside his manager. Football Against Racism in Europe were among the many campaign groups who, quite rightly, took the pair to task. Yet where was the outcry from bodies such as FARE when this month Aleksandar Tonev was hit with a seven-game ban by the SFA for racist conduct? The Celtic midfielder was found guilty by an independent tribunal of abusing Aberdeen’s Shay Logan, reportedly calling him a “f*****g black c***.’ What happened to showing racism the red card? There was not so much as a yellow from their executive director Piara Powar who is also on FIFA’s anti-racism task force. Surely if you are the head of an organisation which vows to fight all forms of racism you cannot pick and choose which abhorrent acts to condemn. And while not for one minute playing down the severity of Mackay and Whelan referring to Chinese people as “Chinks” surely, on a sliding scale, calling a fellow professional a “black c***” is far more offensive? When John Terry and Luis Suarez were found guilty of similar racist offences Powar and his colleagues couldn’t have been any more critical. Yet not a word when Tonev was found guilty of “excessive misconduct by the use of offensive, insulting and abusive language of a racist nature”. Regardless of the fact no hard evidence was presented – it was one Aberdeen’s word against Celtic’s – the case against Tonev was proved. Last year former Rangers chief executive Charles Green was fined by the SFA for “offensive and racist comments” in an interview that referred to former Ibrox commercial director Imran Ahmad. Celtic striker Leigh Griffiths also has a racism charge hanging over his head after being caught on camera singing inappropriate songs along with fellow Hibs supporters. Again this seems unworthy of FARE’s intervention. Powar’s name may be familiar to Rangers fans as his organisation was forced to deny claims of a “deliberate and targeted campaign” against the Ibrox club three years ago. Rangers were disciplined, and correctly so, by UEFA after it emerged supporters sang sectarian songs during the home and away Europa League clashes with PSV Eindhoven. On both occasions they were reported on the basis of submissions from FARE, rather than the UEFA match delegate. At the time Powar said: “There are explicit suggestions emanating from Rangers FC of ‘a deliberate and targeted campaign against the club’. “The FARE network is focused only on our core mission of tackling discrimination in football and encouraging social inclusion through the game. We have no axe to grind with any club.” In 1999 Rangers defender Lorenzo Amoruso racially abused Nigerian striker Victor Ipkeba during a European clash with Borussia Dortmund. Again the incident was not included in the UEFA delegate’s report but Powar, then with anti-racism group Kick it Out, demanded it be investigated. Fast forward to 2013 and former Celtic player Paul Elliot had to resign from his positions within the FA and Kick it Out after he branded ex-Charlton defender Richard Rufus a “n****r” in a text conversation. Powar was quick to Elliot’s defence insisting: “I can understand the concern over the use of the n-word, whoever uses it, in whichever context. “However, I cannot accept it is racist to use it between two friends and business colleagues in a private text. “Racism and other forms of discrimination are not simply about words. It may be difficult for some to accept the difference between those words used with discriminatory intent and those that are not.” But when the League Managers Association misguidedly dismissed Mackay’s comments, which were also sent by text and email, as friendly banter Powar’s private text argument suddenly didn’t hold water. He tweeted: “Wow! The LMA defending the indefensible. Why would you put out something so utterly ridiculous? Because you haven’t a clue.” Now this is not about Rangers and Celtic but about what is fair and what isn’t. And when it comes to removing the ugly stain of racism it would seem FARE is not always FAIR. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/colin-duncan-fares-not-fair-4697316?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
  2. sherbrook_loyal Administrator Staff member Today at 11:25 AM #1 This is the timeline of events: * The club were told by the UEFA delegate later in the evening after the St Patrick's game that we were being reported in their delegate report. FARE also reported us to UEFA, as they do in every match. * The club was only informed what the punishment for the above would be at 5pm on the night of the Legia game. * We were then reported again for the fans' behaviour at the Legia game. This was for singing in the second half and when the ground emptied. The club had anticipated another fine and were caught off guard by the punishment for the first game, which gave them no time to warn fans in Legia. Yes, the club could've communicated the initial charge to fans, but UEFA's timing is also poor in the extreme.
  3. Not just him mate, Separate Entity FC have plenty of place men, they are annihilating Rangers FC in the PR department, have been for years now
  4. Only a matter of time before they get hold of the biggest balloon in a Rangers top and use it as the opening for the evening news! utter scum, I hope they get chased to feck!
  5. I know what songs/words are banned
  6. Going round in circles here! we all know the songs are banned & should not be sung, we all know some fans need to wise up, however what Rangers song will be next on the banned list? it has been explained clearly the sectarian bigoted anti Rangers group FARE are targeting Rangers, and have been for a long time now. It's far from simple. It is however a starting point. FARE need to be targeted for their anti Rangers stance.
  7. Oh well that's ok then!
  8. Cos it is just big bad Rangers that FARE are interested in! Separate Entity FC fans showered Cluj players with missiles as well, nothing to see here!
  9. I couldn't watch the St Boo match on Rangers TV!!, had to use a dodgy link, through vpn, so hopefully it will be better due to the fact I won't need to ue vpn tonight.
  10. Have to agree with that. We have great options, something SG wanted and has got. It will be tight, we will have to be patient, but we are capable of seeing this out and into the next round. JJ might just get the nod ahead of Ojo
  11. The Rangers fans should fund a lawyer to go after FARE get them exposed
  12. FARE are not going to stop until we are kicked out of Europe, I'm not even convinced that they won't report us again even if there are no "offensive songs " sung!!!
  13. https://footballtaxhavens.wordpress.com/2016/05/25/fares-unbiased-observers-two-uefa-journalists-on-the-ground-for-the-game-at-psv-in-2011-were-celtic-fans/
  14. RANGERS has today informed UEFA’s Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body that the Club will not be requesting tickets for its next European away match. The Club now faces an additional UEFA charge of racist behaviour for sectarian singing during the first leg of our Europa League play–off tie against Legia Warsaw last Thursday evening. We are liaising with UEFA in relation to this second charge. The first charge came after the match against St Joseph’s at Ibrox on Thursday, July 18. A consequence of sectarian singing from section BF1 of the ground that evening is that UEFA ordered a partial closure of our stadium for tomorrow night’s crucial game. Those fans responsible for this partial closure of Ibrox Stadium need to understand that they are damaging our Club. If there is a further incidence at tomorrow night’s match this could lead to a ground closure. The same applies to those who indulged in sectarian singing in Warsaw last week and that is why we have taken the decision to make UEFA aware that we will decline tickets for our next away match even though this means that, once again, the many must suffer because of the few. This kind of behaviour has no place at Ibrox, or anywhere else where our many teams appear. Offenders must please stop. You are endangering your Club which has recently launched its Everyone Anyone project aimed at welcoming all to Ibrox. Those who wish to sing offensive songs must realise by now that they are insulting Rangers players, staff, and fellow fans. There is nothing clever, bold or even defiant in what this small number of supporters are doing. By supporting Rangers in the correct way the rest of us must strive to protect our great Club. One way or another this offensive behaviour must end and it would be much more preferable if we stopped it ourselves, simply by behaving like true Rangers fans. https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/uefa-charge
  15. The fans who continue to sing these songs are responsible for all this, they have to stop or we will get kicked out of European football and probably banned!. I do however feel we are being targeted, how the hell could our fans be heard singing anything against Legia with the noise the home fans were making?.
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