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And so the Paranoia takes another turn !!!! SPL Clubs Against The Establishment User is offline MakingAStance1 Icon * * Member * PipPip * Posts: 14 * Joined: 15-February 10 Posted 15 February 2010 - 05:04 PM Hi Hearts Fans Me and a few of the guys on our forum have decided to make a stance against some of the ludicrious decisions being made in the SPL by its referees and the rest of the establishment that pulls the strings. At them minute we have only made facebook and bebo groups but are in the process of organising petions to be made available at all SPL football grounds,except Ibrox. Dont worry lads and gals we are not just paranoid celtic fans,we are more than aware of the injustices sent on all of the other SPL clubs,this hinders clubs chances of making europe,finishing in the top 6 and also on occasion the prospect of relegation.For smaller clubs in the league this can make a sufficient difference.We NEED the other supporters from the league's clubs to stand up and be counted as well or this wont make any difference. Here are the links.U can add a moderator on these sites,send them a pm if u want to get involved in protests or petitions. http://www.facebook....63924135&ref=nf http://www.facebook....id=306300373663 http://www.bebo.com/uniteagainstestab http://www.bebo.com/rightlyparanoid Good luck for the remainder of the season Slanj http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=68059

Unfortunately we are in the times of '' sit down and shut up ''

I think we could beat them in a one off game as well though Pete, it's a wee while since they last beat us

And the thing is,according to them we have NEVER won a title fairly, more to show pity than laughed at,sad BHEASTS

ALTHOUGH Rangers will tonight continue on their quest for an improbable treble, Ally McCoist has admitted that even he can't bear to think about Rangers' long-term prospects at times. While the immediate future is something to relish there is an uncertainty which must strike at the heart all of involved with the Ibrox club at present. Even the reliably upbeat McCoist yesterday admitted he falls prey to moments when thoughts stray ADVERTISEMENT beyond the end of the season, and what the future holds for the club he has adored since when he was a boy. He insisted that his own ambitions to succeed Walter Smith as manager must be considered a side-issue when compared to the needs of the club. The assistant manager also applauded those players who have put to one side their own contractual concerns as they bid to complete what would form a historic and unlikely treble. Skipper David Weir, top goal-scorer Kris Boyd and Nacho Novo are among those whose deals with the club expire at the end of the current campaign. In an effort to prevent distraction from his duties on the pitch Novo yesterday said he had instructed his agent not to involve him in on-going talks with the club. "Some of the boys have got contract issues and they never mention it," said McCoist. "They just get their work done. They have to have concerns about it too ââ?¬â?? of course they have. But they are handling it really well, and they are appreciative of the fact that the club is the most important thing." Rangers remain up for sale and heavily burdened by debt and have been hampered in their efforts to hang on to such prize assets as Boyd. Some fear that the ingredients are there to deliver the club back to the grim days prior to the arrival of Graeme Souness in 1986, when Rangers were not considered to be among those challenging for the league championship. McCoist does not want to even contemplate this down-scaling of ambition. It is a particularly relevant fear for the former striker, since he could well be asked to steer the club through whatever stormy waters lie ahead. "I couldn't see it," he said, when asked whether the bleak days of the early Eighties at Ibrox ââ?¬â?? which he experienced as a player ââ?¬â?? could be revisited. "But to be brutally honest, maybe it is because I don't want to look at that big picture. It's not through ignorance. I am obviously a half-full person rather than a half-empty one. "I just think we will be OK. In Graeme's first game as manager we had to beat Motherwell just to qualify for Europe. I remember those days. But I would be certainly hopeful it would not return to that kind of situation. "It's only a worry for me because it's my football club ââ?¬â?? and has been since I was a wee boy," he added. "It's thousands and thousands of other people's club as well. It's the same concern for them. I will survive. But the most important thing is the club. Hopefully we can sort it out in the near rather than distant future. The stripping of this club's assets is something no supporter would want to see." The immediate future is a much more palatable thought for Rangers supporters. The Ibrox side entertain St Mirren this evening in a fifth-round Active Native Scottish Cup replay and then on Saturday lunch-time will aim to go 13 points clear at the top of the Scottish Premier League with a victory in Perth against St Johnstone. The chances that these outings will end with positive outcomes for Rangers have increased due to an easing in the injury situation at the club. Three weeks ago both McCoist and Smith feared that their ambitions on all three fronts this season ââ?¬â?? Rangers also have a Co-operative Insurance Cup final appearance against tonight's opponents to look forward to next month ââ?¬â?? would be de-railed by a crippling injury list. This was on top of the dire financial circumstances which have caused Rangers to be inactive in the transfer market for over 18 months. But the return of in-form strikers Boyd and Kenny Miller has heartened Rangers ahead of a critical period, with nearest challengers Celtic due to be faced at Ibrox a week this Sunday. There was further good news for Rangers yesterday when DaMarcus Beasley came through a half of a bounce game against Kilmarnock at Murray Park as he bids to improve his match fitness. McCoist is someone who cannot help but accentuate the positives and he welcomed this return to what is a full-strength squad. Rangers will contemplate resting either Miller or Boyd tonight, with the option of leaving one on the bench until the later stages of the game. "We are in a lot better shape than we were maybe three weeks ago," said McCoist. "Back then we were all concerned about having players injured. For us to be successful we have to have a reasonably clean bill of health. I don't want to tempt fate, but we have that now. We (McCoist and Smith] feel that is the most important thing for us, it really is." http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Finance-fears-stop-Ally-McCoist.6078352.jp

Aberdeen manager Mark McGhee has revealed he was spat at by some angry Dons fans after the Scottish Cup defeat by Raith Rovers at Pittodrie. McGhee described the 1-0 loss to the First Division club as the "worst result of my managerial career". "There was heckling, which you expect; some spitting. I've never experienced anything like that," he told BBC Scotland afterwards. "Raith were thoroughly deserving of their result." The Dons forced a replay 10 days ago after firing a late equaliser at Stark's Park, but Gregory Tade's 58th-minute strike was enough to send Raith through on Tuesday. "Raith battled for every ball and won every header," McGhee said. "There's no doubt about it, it's the worst result of my managerial career, and that's no disrespect to Raith Rovers. "We didn't compete for the first ball and never won a header. On a night like this, on a pitch like this we had to at least win the battle and we never won that. "Raith won the battle and got the breakthrough with the goal. We're out the cup and I'm embarrassed, humiliated. Walking down the track there I'm getting people throwing stuff at me." The Dons had earned plaudits last weekend after battling back to draw 4-4 with Celtic in a scintillating Scottish Premier League clash at the same venue. But the emotions among the home supporters could not have been more different after the full-time whistle signalled the end of Aberdeen's Scottish Cup hopes. MY SPORT: DEBATE Give your reaction to Mark McGhee's interview "I've told the players I think they should be ashamed that they're capable of the sort of performance that they displayed on Saturday (against Celtic) - the battling qualities and the effort, commitment - and to come here tonight and not reproduce that, in a game as important as this, is just scandalous," McGhee added. The Dons boss said none of his players were immune from criticism. But he said the defeat would not affect his position at the club and that he was determined to prove a success at Pittodrie.

True,however the pressure would be all on the BHEASTS,we'd just sit back soak up everything they have to throw at us and kill them off as normal

Feckin braw,SHEEP BASSAS GIRUY

Aye,the Edinburgh HUNS!!!

Treble for me,no reason why that seems such a hard task at this stage of the seasson

Stop spoiling our fun/gloating with your common sense posts

Aye,ok Mr Liewell,it's obvious Rangers FC are doing really good on the pitch at least,PR switches into overdrive,just you bang on and in the mean time we at Rangers FC feel ALL your pain

Peter Lawwell today predicted Celtic would emerge from their current troubled times to a bright future. The Parkhead clubââ?¬â?¢s chief executive is acutely aware of the discontent of a support which has watched Tony Mowbrayââ?¬â?¢s rebuilt squad fall 10 points behind debt-ridden Rangers in the title race, which almost certainly brings with it a Ã?£10million ticket to next seasonââ?¬â?¢s Champions League. Celticââ?¬â?¢s turnover for the first half of this campaign is down by almost 23 per cent as a result of failing to qualify for the competition this season. And chairman Dr John Reid had warned that, if income is not there, then that inevit-ably has an impact on the ability to invest as much as they would like in players. However, Lawwell is confident the clubââ?¬â?¢s financial strategy and plan to find raw talent which they can develop into Champions League-quality players will pay off. So, while the going may be tough at the moment, he believes better times are on the horizon. Lawwell said: ââ?¬Å?I believe we have a bright future. Weââ?¬â?¢ve managed our resources well. We are stable. ââ?¬Å?We have strategies in place for further development of the club. ââ?¬Å?This is a club that will keep growing and we will see the fruits of some of our strategies two or three years down the line. ââ?¬Å?The financial figures gives us elbow room to support the manager. Every manager needs resources and the financial statement shows we have leeway to support him. ââ?¬Å?There aspects of this that are part of a long-term strategy. We will see the returns from that in the next few years.ââ?¬Â However, Lawwell knows the fans want immediate results, especially on the field. He continues to reject any suggestion the directors are more interested in balancing books than winning trophies. Crucially, the club did not succeed in bringing in at least one more experienced central defender after Gary Caldwell and Stephen McManus left, but Lawwell said: ââ?¬Å?We traded well in January. ââ?¬Å?Weââ?¬â?¢re in a period of transition and we have to rebuild. We invested heavily in the summer, too. We have a financial strategy that is working and allows us to support the manager in his rebuilding plans. ââ?¬Å?Weââ?¬â?¢ve brought in real quality, and still we get criticised.ââ?¬Â Robbie Keane was the big-name arrival in the last window, and Lawwell shot down reports this loan signing is being financed by major shareholder, Dermot Desmond. ââ?¬Å?Yes, Dermot Desmond, and the rest of the board supported that acquisition, but the wages are being financed from the club,ââ?¬Â he said. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks-ignore/peter-lawwell-future-is-bright-at-parkhead-1.1006915

I think I'm more worried about the state of the club and where we are heading,so far it won't really matter who the manager is

I'm sure you can go on the official site,click on the stadium plan and view the pitch from your seat ??,I'm just not sure how you do it mate,give it a try!!

stevie_bhoy Today, 12:16 AM Post #26 Member Avatar Occasional Substitute [ * * * * ] Posts: 635 Group: Members Member #1,762 Joined: 2 August 2005 Anyway I dont see why we need to do this through the media Next season When a team asks, erm Mr Lawell how many tickets do you want for celtic supporters coming to Dundee / edinburgh/Motherwell, Kilmarnock etc etc, just say 'None - we dont want any, stick them where it doesnt shine, we will put money back in your pockets when you stand up agaisnt the hun establishment you spineless toads.'

JoeyRamone Today, 12:04 AM Post #19 Member Avatar Hey Ho, Let's Go [ * * * * * * ] Posts: 1,329 Group: Members Member #21,486 Joined: 3 September 2008 Favourite all-time player Henke, Jinky and Bobby Murdoch in that order It doesn't matter whether we shout it from the rooftops about hun bias by referees because no one in this parochial wee country thinks that hun bias is wrong. No one cares that we are being disadvantaged. The media don't, the football authorities don't and the other clubs don't. The only other SPL manager to speak out about hun bias this season was Jim Gannon when he was at Motherwell and the press set about ridiculing him. The huns have been and still are receiving refereeing help, in almost every game they play. It will never stop because no one, bar us, the Celtic support, want it to stop.

padrepio Yesterday, 9:02 PM Post #1 Member Avatar http://www.padrepioinscotland.org.uk [ * * * * * * ] Posts: 1,528 Group: Members Member #1,724 Joined: 29 July 2005 Favourite all-time player Tommy Burns I am only too aware that any public statement as regards what has been blatantly biased decisions going against us/for huns this season will look like sour grapes on our part but surely someone high up on the board must be looking at the overall picture this season? Now before anyone has a go at me saying "its our own fault we are where we are" then i know we have not been very good this year but neither have the huns. I have a few hun mates who`s very words are "I can`t believe we are 10 point ahead of you" I have replied that they are "unbeatable this season" , this eventually leads to the "you are paranoid" sentence but the bottom line is that these decisions are going to cost us money. Reid and Co need to start acting like a PLC because this bias is costing us money. I have been following Celtic for over 30 years and this is the worst I can remember in terms of decisions given for huns/against us and fully aware that their is no way to prove any of it. I see Hugh Dallas has come out today to say he has been "uncomfortable" with decisions made this season but they are all "honest mistakes". Does anyone know if the club plan to make any sort of statement or indeed if anyone in a position of authority has been taking note of what has been going on? I am quite sure a statement would have been released at the end of the season if we had won the league, but lets face it this looks unlikely now. Between the officials and the even worse blatant bias in the media: I include radio/papers and tv all are just as bad. Yesterday`s events when Boyd was booked for "obstruction" and Conroy then informed Smith that he Boyd was still 1 point short of a suspension put the tin haton it for me. Smith has played the everyone well this season, media and refs, got them all shampoo scared of them(look at the press conference after the Unirea match at Ibrox, only wee Chick asked him some irrelevant question) Mowbray has been too honest for his own good. I`ve went off the beaten track slightly but "Should someone higher up be doing or saying something"

"All we can do as players is get on with our jobs. Yes, it would have been great if the manager had had some money to bring in new faces. All the players could take a massive wage cut to help the club

What are you trying to say Johnny ?

You do know they are part of '' THE ESTABLISHMENT ''

And is 100% correct

Zappa did say '' trouble makers '' right enough,obviously he wasn't talking about me

CELTIC are counting the cost of failing to qualify for the group stages of this season's Champions League after announcing a decrease in turnover of almost 23 per cent for the six months to the end of 2009. The Parkhead club revealed in their interim results a turnover of Ã?£36.11million, down 22.8 per cent on Ã?£46.8million at the same time last year. Profits before taxation were down from Ã?£8.36 million to Ã?£1.27 million while bank debt increased from Ã?£0.9 7 million to Ã?£3.13million. Chairman John Reid blamed the downturn on failure to qualify for the Champions League in addition to "more difficult trading conditions". In a statement on the club's website, Reid said: "A year ago I reported on a very positive set of interim results. "This reflected good trading conditions, three recent Scottish Premier League Championships and participation in the Group Stage of the Uefa Champions League as Scotland's sole representative. I said then that football and commercial success went hand in hand. This year's report confirms that assertion. "It certainly reflects different, more difficult trading conditions, and it is plain that like other commercial concerns we are affected by the recession. "But it also reflects disappointing performance on the park; we did not qualify for the UCL Group Stage this season as we had hoped, instead participating in the Europa League. "The difference that this and the economic climate have made to our business is borne out in our financial results for the six months to 31 December 2009." Reid continued: "Turnover of Ã?£36.11 million is well down (22.8 per cent] on Ã?£46.8 million at the same time last year; but while our revenues have reduced our financial performance remains highly creditable given all the circumstances. "Despite the absence of Champions League participation, over 50,000 season tickets have been sold and our merchandising business is holding up well, with this year's away kit the best selling for many years. Our sponsor programme also remains one of the most successful in British football. "Non-exceptional operating expenses have decreased by Ã?£2.71 million to Ã?£31.39 million, largely through labour cost savings, and we remain in profit, generating a profit from trading before asset transactions and exceptional items of Ã?£4.71 million against last year's Ã?£12.68 million and a profit before tax of Ã?£1.27million against Ã?£8.36million at the same time last year. "Maintaining a sustainable economic and business model has been one of our key objectives, and for good reason. "It has always had only one ultimate purpose – the success of Celtic Football Club. "It has provided financial stability when needed; it has delivered the continuing support of our kit manufacturer, Nike, with whom a five-year contract extension starts in July this year, and in an extraordinarily difficult sponsorship market, it has brought the commitment of Tennent's as our new shirt sponsor. "This approach, together with the backing of our fans, shareholders and business partners has enabled us to continue to invest in our business, even at this time. "It is a great credit to all those concerned, and on behalf of the club, I express our thanks." Reid acknowledged that the ten-point gap which Rangers have over Celtic at the top of the table but pointed out that the club's careful financial housekeeping has allowed funds to be made available for manager Tony Mowbray. He said: "It is our financial stability that now gives us the means to plan for the years ahead and to rebuild a successful and winning team. "As seen in these interim results it has already allowed us to have an eye to the future, as well as to the task of trying to win the Scottish Premier League title back this season. "During last summer it enabled us to increase our investment in football personnel, committing just under Ã?£8million against just over Ã?£7million at the same time the year before. "That has contributed to net bank debt at 31 December 2009 increasing from Ã?£0.97million to Ã?£3.13million, a level that is manageable and has therefore permitted further player trading in the January registration window. Perhaps above all, it is that careful management of our resources that has enabled us to progress the transition under our new manager Tony Mowbray and his team. "Rebuilding is never easy. But our summer transfer activity and the significant further strengthening of the squad in January honour the pledge we made to support our manager and improve the team. "Braafheid, Fortune, Hooiveld, Kamara, Robbie Keane, Ki Sung Yueng, Nguemo, Rasmussen, Rogne, Thompson, Zaluska and Zheng Zhi, together with several younger promising players, have joined us. Others have left – we thank them for their service to the club, and wish them well. "We have an enormous task ahead in recovering the current league points deficit and cannot pretend otherwise, but we look forward to the SPL title challenge and a Scottish Cup run, with determination, commitment and, most importantly of all, your support." Celtic: The key figures TURNOVER Ã?£36.11m Down from Ã?£46.8m PROFITS BEFORE TAX Ã?£1.27m Down from Ã?£8.36m BANK DEBT Ã?£3.13m Up from Ã?£0.97m http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Celtic-suffer-23-per-cent.6074534.jp

Tredhearcacht Yesterday, 6:39 PM Post #1766 Getting noticed in the reserves [ * * ] Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #25,286 Joined: 25 January 2010 Favourite all-time player Jackie Dziekanowski Very interesting comments from Merouane Zemmama of Hibernian today, referring to his assault at the hands of Boyd (pen) yesterday: "In Scotland it was a yellow card but in other countries it would have been a red". This is now two players - and, significantly, foreign players - (Hinkel being the other) this season alone who have called into question the honesty and integrity of Scottish referees regarding their influence in this season's championship. Germany, Italy and Portugal - all far superior leagues to Scotland have fallen foul to corrupt officiating in recent years and have admitted it. When will the Celtic board have the guts to ask UEFA for at least an investigation into the viability of Scottish football given that the rules are simply being applied differently to different teams (cf the entire Rangers team running off the park yesterday with nary a booking; while the referee *had* to book Rasmussen to the same thing in Douglas Park)? We as a club should be pressing extremely strongly for neutral, foreign referees to be appointed for all matches in the SPL to provide an even playing field. As it is, it's not in the other ten clubs' interest to do so, as what they lose at the hands of referees when they play the hun, they often gain when they play us.