ian1964

i would just tell this guiser to stay in the house and never set foot back in MP or Ibrox

So are you................oops,there's me being immature again

Ha Ha,immature!!!ok dad I thought it was a joke,hence the smiley

IF Lloyds Bank had adopted the same tough approach over what it is owed by the Republic of Ireland as they have over Rangers' paltry debt, the Irish would be running around Dublin in their bare feet. For the Irish economy is in debt to the Lloyds bank of Archibald Gerard Kane and Manus Joseph J Fullerton to the tune of �£27BILLION. No, you didn't mis-read that. The Irish owe Lloyds a staggering �£27BILLION. It certainly makes the �£23m Rangers owe those bankers at Loyds look like chickenfeed. Yet Lloyds' determination to wring every last penny out of Rangers as quickly as possible, with no regard for what it is doing to the the success of the business, goes on apace. Which is in marked contrast to the largess they are proffering to that financial basket case which is the Republic of Ireland. And that begs the question I have posed more than once, and which has never been answered. Just what is it which motivates Loyds Bank and their senior bankers when it comes to putting the squeeze on Rangers? Lloyds continuing stranglehold on Rangers was once again cleverly highlighted by Walter Smith in the aftermath of his depleted team's narrow Champions League loss to star studded Manchester United. When asked if he thought he would be given any help in January, with the challenge of a run in the Europe League looming, coupled with the title defence stretching resources, Smith made it clear that in his view such help did not look likely. He will continue to have to fight off the Celtic challenge at home, and deal with the demands of Europe without Lloyds not only not helping, but actually hindering Rangers in their efforts to make money. Which is what will happen the more successful the team is. It is a strange way for the 41per cent taxpayers owner Lloyds to go about their business. Lloyds appear determined to ensure Rangers resources are restricted. The disparity of resources, if not performance over 180 minutes, beween Smith's two in a row Scottish Champions, and Manchester United, was something Sir Alex Ferguson chose to comment on too. According to Ferguson, that was at its most stark when you looked at the substitute's bench. For a start, United were able to muster their full compliment of seven, while Rangers could name only six. Fergie also spoke of the difference in class there, and considering his bench contained French captain Patrice Evra, nobody was arguing with the Laird of Govan. Given all of the above, Smith's Rangers have performed admirably in a difficult Champions League group, with United needing until the last four minutes of their second game against Rangers to score, and then only from a penalty. Valencia were outplayed at Ibrox, and should have been beaten, and while the Spaniards deserved their home win, the scoreline was not a fair reflection of the contest. Bursaspor were beaten on an wonderfully charged Ibrox Euro night, and whatever happens in Turkey, Rangers will have acquited themselves well in the Champions League. The oft malinged Rangers supporters have also done well. The singing against Manchester United was loud, long and lusty, but never stepped into the sort of territory the club's enemies were hoping for. Though perhaps, as you read this, Odious Creep - or one of his army of allies inside another Glasgow ground - are trawling through their Sky + box with sound enhancing equipment, in the hope they can dig up the murmer of somthing which can be forwarded to UEFA. Incidentally, UEFA must be close to considering setting up a department of Religious and Cultural Affairs to deal with the raft of moans they get from those of a Parkhead persusion. If they ever do, I have just the man in mind who would be perfect to take charge of it. Mike McCurry! I cannot however, come up with a name to solve the problem those bankers at Lloyds seem to have with Rangers measly �£23M debt, as opposed to the way they have allowed the Republic of Ireland to run up �£27BILLION on the slate. http://leggoland2.blogspot.com/2010/11/rangers-lloyds-and-ireland.html

Name them....................................

Really I think that is a desparate shout,he is what he is and he has always been what he is

Jeez, when does it ever end???

As I said,we all see things differently:grin: Oh and be carefull with that '' IMO '' thing:awesome:

Thank god you said that,I was getting paranoid there,no I'm not a ****,I cannot understand some fans views,but there again we all see things different:smile:

He's the best striker in Scotland,has replaced Boyds' goals tally,he's the best we've got

Please tel me you are fishing!!!

How good is this guy???, I know I mentioned him in the Broadfoot thread,but I would like to hear what we all think about this guy,for me he started slow without doing too much wrong,but as the game went on I thought the lad grew into the game,for me he does look the real deal and that can only be good for the Rangers

Agreed 100%,I honestly don't think we could have got any more from the players tonight,we played as well as we can with the players available. last season all I wanted to do was win the league,only for the money to be gained from the CL,then when the draw was made all I wanted was not ot be humiliated and qualify for the Europa League,job done.

I thought the big man was excellent tonight,again!!, the guy has to be given credit for his attitude and performance tonight and also at Old Trafford,and big Davie Weir strolled the game despite a lot of people thinking he is passed it,well done to our centre backs tonight as I was worried about the absent Bougherra. forgot to mention young Hutton who I thought played really well and is one for the future,take a bow Mr Hutton

No pal,not had a bet,don't want to jinx them

No pal,not had a bet,don't want to jinx them

Reid playing with fire "This referee lied and conspired and then attempted to cover-up what he'd done - there can't be any integrity in a system that permits lying." Thus did the former home secretary and current Celtic chairman, John Reid, call last week for the removal of the referee Dougie McDonald and his overseers at the Scottish Football Association. Given what the Chilcot inquiry may say when it reports in the coming weeks on the Labour government's decision to go to war in Iraq, Digger wonders whether Reid may come to regret his words about a lowly referee. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/24/plymouth-argyle-john-reid-celtic

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You are correct though

I knew it wasn't me,I just wasn't sure who you were aiming it at

WOULD-BE Rangers supremo Craig Whyte has been ordered to stay away from Ibrox for tonight's Battle of Britain showdown with Manchester United. Record Sport understands the Scottish billionaire and London-based property developer Andrew Ellis - who are locked in buy-out talks with majority shareholder Sir David Murray - have been forced to scrap plans to jet into Glasgow for the Champions League tie after a day of fraught legal discussions. Whyte and Ellis had hoped to arrive in Scotland at around lunchtime today to meet with club board members for the first time before watching Walter Smith's men take on English giants United in a mouth-watering Group C clash. But their plans bit the dust late last night after their lawyers were advised senior Rangers sources considered it would be "inappropriate" for the pair to be seen inside the stadium at such a sensitive stage in their �£32million takeover bid. Under the strict stockmarket code, Whyte and Ellis will only be given the green light to open formal talks with chairman Alastair Johnston AFTER they have shaken hands with Murray on a deal. However, no agreement has yet been struck and, despite the determination of Whyte and Ellis to press the flesh, Johnston has remained in the United States with no intention of attending tonight's big game at Ibrox . Rescue A seemingly sceptical Johnston adopted an aggressive public approach earlier this year when Ellis first failed to push through a planned rescue package for the stricken SPL champs. He repeatedly insisted that he would be willing to fly across the Atlantic at one or two days' notice to begin face-to-face talks. Last night a frustrated Ellis confirmed to Record Sport that he would not be attending the European clash with Sir Alex Ferguson's side. And he expressed his disappointment at missing out on both the game and the chance to meet with the Ibrox directors. Ellis said: "Craig and I had cleared our diaries and were very excited about the prospect of spending a couple of days in Glasgow . "We are very disappointed that we will now not be able to take in the match and meet with the directors. "I was obviously very much looking forward to meeting Alastair in particular." http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2010/11/24/rangers-hit-would-be-owner-craig-whyte-with-big-match-ban-86908-22736151/

By Gary McDaniel So it has come to this, our referees have decided that enough is enough and they're taking strike action in demonstration as to the constant flack they have been subjected to recently. I say good on them. Celtic chairman, John Reid, is without doubt the Keith Flint-esk firestarter who has been regularly stoking the flames on the burning issue of referees, especially Dougie MacDonald. Mr Reid is adamant heads should role as the heinous crime of a lie has been told to their manager Neil Lennon and the SFA match observer. Now I don't condone lying and I�m sure as his time as a politician John Reid would never condone such a thing............. Oh hold on wasn't he a member of the Blairite New Labour party which was built on the foundation of spin? Wasn't he once a prominent member of our government's cabinet? Let us remember that John Reid was part of one of the biggest lies in our country's recent history in the run-up to the war in Iraq. He was privy to information of claims of 45 minute warnings and weapons of mass destruction, which all turned out to be a load of nonsense but yet thousands of Iraqi's lost their lives and many of our troops were killed, all for what? We were then told that the removal of Saddam Hussein was part of the plan, didn't remember being said on the run-up to war? Change of story there, doesn't that sound familiar? He was part of a government which deviously set about ditching bad news on the day of 9/11. Ok he wasn't directly involved in that but that all stemmed from the culture being set by the party he was a member of. So how many heads rolled after the PR disaster which was the Iraq war cover-up? Erm one, namely a Dr David Kelly who took his own life. Now Mr John Reid wishes to see P45s issued within the SFA and to Dougie MacDonald over the Tannadice incident? A lie, which I agree was stupid, but which was taken without real thought. A decision which in essence did not have any real effect on the outcome of the game in Dundee. Compare that to Reid's political decisions in the past. Yes, he has a cheek to sit in Parkhead and believe he has the moral high ground. I have a lot of respect for Celtic Football Club and many of their fans for what they have done for Scottish football. Their achievements abroad. The behaviour of their fans when following their team in Europe over the decades. For me though, the likes of John Reid and Peter Lawell are tarnishing that image. I would have more respect for them if they cleared the smokescreen and laid their cards on the table and openly admitted that they believe that there is a valid question about the integrity of Scottish referees. I might not agree with them but I would respect their bluntness. I've been over this ground in a previous post about referees but we seem to forget how invaluable they are to our game and the fact that, like us, they are human beings. They are committed to the job and have taken up the call in which the vast majority of us wouldn't touch with a barge pole. They face, not just stick from managers and players, but also from fans whose abuse is much more colourful. Who in their right mind would run the line and suffer constant verbal attacks from fans questioning their integrity, their eyesight but also the much more darker issues of having their sexuality questioned, members of their family verbally abused and threats to their personal safety? Imagine its like a taxi driver having every fare in his cab hurling abuse at him or a call centre worker being told were to stick their double glazing on a regular basis. You would pack it in after a while for your own sanity. We now live in a culture were football referees are now constantly in the spot light. Many ex-referees are TV pundits or have their own columns in national newspapers. This didn't happen 20 years ago. We are fascinated by officials and the decisions they make. It frustrates us and it annoys us but we accept, well I do, that they have taken an honest decision in relation to an incident. We have a situation in which players earn thousands or millions of pounds. They have the life style they desire, the house they dreamed of, the sports car they sought after and the eye candy on their arm they thought was never possible when they were a plukey wee pubescent teenager. They virtually do what they want. They can demand more money and sign up to lucrative sponsorship deals. But when they run out onto a football pitch and have a referee blow the whistle and tell them its not a penalty, they blow their top. How dare this authoritarian weasel that I have no respect for tell me I'm wrong. Let us all remember players and managers never get it wrong? They never lie or cheat? No no never. Yet their behaviour is never regularly punished by their club. A manager rarely criticises one of his players for diving to get a penalty. They never take action when their players hound match officials to get an opposing player red carded. No its all accepted as part of the game. Referees are demonised by many quarters from within the game but we also forget the other role in which referees play. Not only do they have to judge if a player has dived or feigning injury but they are there to protect the players. It is the job of the man in black to blow the whistle and ask for urgent attention for a player who has a head knock. It is them who decide when a pitch is unplayable and is threatening the well being of those playing on it. It is them who red card a player, not to annoy a manager or fans, but to punish a player for recklessness which could threaten the career of an opponent. We sometimes forget that. We have also heard calls for referees to reveal the team's they support. What a load of nonsense. Which referee would put their career at risk by revealing that they support one of the top clubs in this country? For example how could they excel in the profession if they were forced to reveal they supported one half of the old firm? They wouldn't get on the UEFA or FIFA list to officiate top international or Champions League games as they hadn't been able to referee a top SPL match due to their integrity being questioned. They are professional and wouldn't wish to put their career in jeopardy. Do we do the same when a former Celtic player returns to Parkhead? Like when Henrik Larsson scored for Barcelona in front of his adoring fans? No he's a footballer doing the job he is employed to do, no matter the opposition. Imagine that in the last game of the season Celtic need to beat Aberdeen for the title and it's late in the game, finely poised at 2-1 in favour of Celtic. The Dons have a corner which lands at the feet of Zander Diamond (a well known supporter of his bhoyhood heroes) who is in front of goal 6 yards out. He skies is shot over the bar and the final whistle blows. Would we suggest he did it deliberately? Make-up your own mind, but I would hope he just fluffed his lines. So what does the future hold? Well I don't think Celtic will give up on this issue lightly until a certain few go through the exit door at Hampden. What makes this whole episode ironic is that you could say that while this whole issue has blown up, Celtic's performances on the field have suffered. Has Neil Lennon's focus been distracted? What you may find is that in the end Celtic may have scored an own goal by allowing an ever increasingly tired and threadbare Rangers' side remain top of the SPL. http://www.theawayend.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=468%3Athe-hypocrisy-of-john-reid&catid=59%3Agary-mcdaniel&Itemid=119

The SFA spent the evening in talks with referees' representatives and declared themselves optimistic that the strike could be averted The Scottish FA has set a Thursday deadline to avert a refereeing strike, before they implement a contingency plan that involves parachuting officials in from other countries. Referees have voted to withdraw labour amid concerns at abuse levels and what they perceive as the unfair questioning of their integrity. Talks were held between referees' representatives and the SFA tonight in an attempt by the governing body to avoid the strike, which would put matches at risk of postponement. "We are hopeful that, if we can resolve the current issues that the referees have, then our own referees will be taking to the field," said Stewart Regan, the SFA's chief executive. "If not, then we will be preparing a contingency plan to implement by Thursday of this week." Regan said it was "our intention" to have Scottish officials in charge of SPL matches but foreign associations will be contacted as a back-up. The contingency plan has met with its own troubles, though; Icelandic referees have said they will not step into any breach, with cool initial responses also received from Wales and Ireland. "We will support our colleagues in Scotland," said the Icelandic referee Kristinn Jakobsson. "The referees all around the world is one team, so I think we are going on the same line." Regan moved to distance himself from any suggestion that referees could be forced to declare allegiances to any one team when taking up officiating. The move had received provisional backing from the Celtic chairman, John Reid. "Comments like that aren't particularly helpful," Regan added. "It's very difficult to justify why you would ask somebody to do that. We are hopeful that talks will be fruitful this week and they can officiate at matches at the weekend. We are hopeful that we can come to a satisfactory conclusion. "It [the strike] appears to be about making a stand and withdrawing labour for the weekend but we are hopeful that, if we can give them assurances about support going forward, we can get them to rescind that decision." The implementation of a referees' charter, with rules laid down for both clubs and officials, could form part of that action. Regan refused directly to implicate Celtic, who have been involved in an ongoing battle with officialdom, in the current row. He did, though, point to wider factors in this controversy. "Clearly there are sectarian issues at play," Regan said. "I think that's something that has been around for a long time and its naive to think that can be removed overnight. There are a lot of efforts by many people to change the culture. This is a cultural issue, it's deep-rooted and will take time to change." Meanwhile the Scottish referee Craig Thomson took charge of tonight's Champions League tie between Ajax and Real Madrid in Amsterdam. http://www.u.tv/Sport/Scottish-FA-sets-Thursday-deadline-over-refereeing-strike/96daa9c0-2db8-4ecf-94d8-959bcb3a7eaa

RANGERS supporters have been warned UEFA are ready to pounce on them again if there is any singing of the Billy Boys, or any sectarian chanting, at the match against Manchester United. Chief executive Martin Bain has made it clear he has inside knowledge that UEFA are on Rangers' case again. And his warning comes just a week after he was taken to task by Odious Creep - in a downright lie - for not speaking out against what Creep wrote in the Times of London's Scottish edition, was becoming a problem again for Rangers. A coincidence perhaps. Creep wrote his latest lie about Rangers, despite the fact Bain spoke out about the problem, and about his plans to curb it, in reply to complaints voiced by Rangers supporters at the AGM. The Rangers chief executive was quoted in just about every paper in the country. But then again, maybe Creep believes reading the papers is beneath his dignity. However, most people in the press pack know there is no relationship between Creep and the truth when it comes to him putting the boot into Rangers. There is, though, a close and personal relationship between Creep and any UEFA spotlight being shone on Rangers and the songs their supporters sing, some of which have no place in the 21st century. Such a relationship does not exist between Creep and the authorities regarding the terrorist supporting songs belted out, and banners unfurled, by the lunatic fringe of zealots from Celtic's increasing out of control Green Brigade. And what better time is there for Celtic to have attention diverted away from the problems they are having with their fans, and the part they are playing in the current crisis engulfing Scottish football? Another coincidence? So, if there is a cheep of the Billy Boys from the Rangers support, or one single chant which could be described as sectarian when Manchester United are at Ibrox, you can be sure Creep will hear it. He may miss a goal, a red card, or any other important part of his mandate to report on a Champions League football match, but he will hear what he wants to hear, just as surely as he has never heard Celtic supporters singing any terrorist songs, or seen any of their banners, like a flying column in support of the IRA. Of course Bain did not spell out exactly what he had been told, but a quote on the official Rangers website from a senior police officer made it clear the police will be on zero tolerance alert. Now I know the match commander at Ibrox is not the same senior officer who is the match commander at Parkhead. But they are both senior officers in the Strathclyde Force. So, presumably, zero tolerance on offensive - whether of a sectarian or terrorist nature - chanting inside football grounds is the police policy across the Strathclyde Force, and the same warning will be issued before Celtic's next game within the Strathclyde area. However, that does not alter the UEFA involvement regarding Rangers, and the danger UEFA present to the Scottish champions. For UEFA is of the few areas in football where Odious Creep has some contacts and holds some sway. Which is why Rangers supporters should take careful note of what Bain is telling them, and confine their singing to football songs, plus any other songs they feel comfortable belting out, which cannot ever be described as sectarian. The police are watching. UEFA are watching too. And all the time, the Times of London's Scottish edition district man, Odious Creep, is listening. http://leggoland2.blogspot.com/2010/11/rangers-enemies-ready-to-pounce.html

Who's that aimed at Barry??