pete

Arnesson and Chelsea caught again! That could mean -3pts.

WaW what a read ma head is buzz'n. Lets just not forget one thing we all come on here because of our love for Rangers. Clement is long term as Cammy said but Prso will be fit. I would go for a 4 man midfield. Burke-------Hemdani--------Fergie------Rae I think Martin is a luxury we can't afford against the tims.

Under WS and DA we played a Brand of football that at times took our breath away. Under AM it was the players that looked breathless. We did possibly hold on to them both too long though. Well that goes for all three.

70 pound for 2 tickets:eek: Where are you sitting in the chairmans seat. How can anyone afford that week in week out?

Eck does have a good record Cammy i don't think anyone can deny that but he said judge me when it is my team. We did because the team could hardly put 3 passes together at the end, a bit like sunday really. In the end he had lost all discipline and it was reported the players were pushing him out. I admit that is hearsay evidence. He also made a dick of himself with the Craig Moore incident which along with other incidents as Lovenkrands, showed he could not make important decisions. He also picked his teams to counter the opponents instead of playing to our strenghts. You could say he won everything in Scotland exept the Rangers fans hearts. That he had no resources is crap he had a far bigger budget than PLG does, he could pay players 20-30 thousand a week and had 4mill+ for Barry and a few million for players that were so bad we had to pay them off. I will beg to differ from you here Cammy, i think apart from one season he was always a mediocre player(I can't judge at Blackburn) and as i said in another thread my biggest problem is that he lets players run away from him which puts pressure on the defence. I agree with almost all of that but at the moment it looks like we are stuck with him. I think it will get worse before it gets better as it looks like he is closing all taps to sell up.

I thought that was the year they got to the final but with your reply i guess i am wrong. Glad to admit i am not an expert in Sceptic history Different memories for me that season then - IMO if it weren't for BF that season we wouldn't have been in a position to win the league on the last day of the season. Cammy F I admire your loyalty to him Cammy as with Eck but sometimes you can stay loyal too long as with Eck.

I would love to see us running the game and winning. Us being by far the better team but only drawing would be worst acceptable result. Defeat is not thinkable.

He was not playing very good the year he was taking all the injections. Admittedly Eck not buying a leftsided midfielder didn't help him. Many games in that year the other teams walked over over our midfield . Barry being injured and having to cover so much ground was to blame as far as i can remember. They played better football than us, and probably lost because of their run in Europe.

That is exactly what i meant about Barry making excuses. You are not going to tell me you would put Fergie in the same class as Gascoigne. That team were played better than all other teams. The helicopter season counts for us winning the league but if we are really honest sceptic were the better team that season.

I can only remember him having one really good season, when he was playing with RdBoer under DA. All the seasons after that we have only had excuses about his fitness. Winning the League was not so much our brilliance but poor opponents.

Fordham's uncle was a red hot Gers fan and used to take him to Rangers games. That is how he became a supporter. He also goes to Millwall games.

I hope he is baldy as he will spend a lot of time pulling his hair out over the next 3 years.

I don't think i said Fergie was the only problem but he is the major problem imo. As for one player making a huge difference, that is very possible if he is the man pulling the strings. If you take the keystone out of a bridge it will fall down. If your midfield are not picking up their opposite numbers then it means the defence then has to make decisions on who to mark,meaning they come too late, which makes the defender look bad. Fergie does not pick up runners he stands and watches them hoping the defence will pick them up. That is nothing to do with his injury that is his mentality, he has always done it.

Eck was given 4 years. Surely PLG deserves more than 4 weeks. Under Eck we could not put three passes together at least in some games we have played some good football.

Time to dump Fergie when the January window opens and bring in Scott Brown and possibly Kevin Thomson with him.

The manager needs to be given time and he will be. We have David Murray not Vladimir Romanov, thank god. The season is only a few weeks old and if you look back over the last few seasons the team that has started the season well has fallen away and lost the league. Although PLG had studied video's of all the players, actually working with them is a different kettle of fish.Our present run of form has coincided with Fergie's return and it has been well documented on here what i think of Fergie. I just do not rate him at all. PLG had to give him a chance i now hope he see's that Hemdani has to play or that we need someone else to be brought in when the window opens. For a good mid-mid we will have to pay good money,we have tried the cheap choices and it does not work you get what you pay for. Not having a good playmaker has cost us millions in the last few years imo, there is a Dutch saying that say's buying cheap can be expensive and that is totally appropriate for us. Although Fergie was not really cheap.Many players find it difficult to ajust to Scottish football and it is possible that PLG will also need time to ajust. He may have to change his way of thinking for the less technical but die at the sword football that is played in Scotland.To answer your Question i have no deja vue feeling as i have more faith in PLG than i ever had in Eck. He just needs time!

Hibs always seem to raise their game against us and it has really always been like that even going back to the Pat Stanton day's. The BBC team have been saying since the start of the season that Hibs play the best football in Scotland. They also played the Tims off the park for one half but unfotunatly fell away. They are young and therfore too unexperiened for the whole season. Being champions means getting points when you play bad and that is where they fall down.

Unfortunatley i now believe you Cammy, it is now obvious that Murray has closed all pipelines so as he can get the best price. Yes we had 9 in a row and we are thankfull for that but it cost murray nothing but sent Rangers almost into Bankrupcy. If Murray had not have covered the debt we had, i truly believe, and i believe he believed, he would never be able to appear in the streets of Scotland again.

I hope for Hearts that it is Bullshit i don't see them surviving if he walks out leaving debt for all the players that have come in. I am not a Hearts supporter but i would hate to see them go Bankrupt.

I don't know what happened as the thread was locked. I just want to say i think of FJ and Del as forum friends and hope they can sort the problem on the PM board. Hopefully it is handbags at 2 yards. Come on guy's soort it out we don't want to loose any of you.

Frigg'n 45.000 a week for you!

The whole of the Moslim world is screaming *** and even death to the pope, i suppose it will be us that done it again!!!

No problem Jon that is the difference between talking and typing, what you type is not always what you are trying to say or mean.(well you anyway;) )

I don't think i said PLG was putting the game at risk,i think he felt that with Fergie Buffel and Sionko we would still be strong enough to beat Molde. I felt Buffel did okay but Sionko and Fergie just don't look up to playing in top class football at this moment. There are no small teams in Europe but we are paying these players 10.000-25.000 pound a week and Molde maybe 2.000 euro's a week surely that price should tell in class.