pete

No doubt the penalty claim will get a big airing and how they were robbed.

And none on the park.

What is it with christmas and Rangers forums? Was it last christmas we were down or two years ago?

I was only on it when the Gersnet was down, there was too many stupid rules and people complaining if you missed putting in comma's etc. Apart from that it is ok, but i don't have time for two sites. Sorry mate can't help the link i have dosn't work either.

I don't particularly like or hate many of my colleagues but i am proffesional enough to get the job done. Sitting in a pub with them kidding on i'm enjoying their company goes too far for me though so i tend not to go to work nights out.

Jens Lehmann sold a note during the week that was written by the keeperstrainer Andreas Kopke. He used it in the WC duel against Argentine in the penalty shoot out. The note told him which corner to go to. Someone payed 1 million euros for it. 1mill for a bit of paper and ink,what is the world coming to.

Wecome mate. As i said above it is us that has the problem. Why should we be worried if a guy crosses himself or not. Personally i couldn't give a shit if he came out in a bourka i worry about our players not what the other mob do.

It is only a problem if we think it is a problem. If he gets no reaction from us then he will stop it or do it for his religion. I wish he would do it instead of saving our bloody shots that is what pisses me off, can they not take him to court for that.

I met one once in Austria!

Juventus cancelled their game with Cesena tonight after two 17 year old players from their youth team were found floating in a man made pond within their training facility. It is thought they fell in after trying to retrieve a ball. Sad waste of life.

They are doing poorly in the league but did they not start with a lot of minus points? What would their real position be without the penalty points?

If he took the first shot with his left peg he would have burst the net. Or maybe have hit the corner flag in his case.

All dutch woman are like that.

You see what meeting you once does to a person it is like the curse of tutankhamun. After meeting you all my jokes die.

He scored twice tonight to make them groups winner. Eck had him on the left wing!!????????

Feyenoord have hit a bit of form after being shite at the start of the season and do not have the friendliest supporters in the world so in one way i would like to miss them. On the other hand it would be great banter for me

He did tonight. He overtook Gorden in my eyes. Every ball held in atrocious conditions. A brilliant save at the end. The only smudge for me was the ball he punched i thought he could have held that, and it was a pretty poor punch. On the other hand he would have gotten some verbal if he tried to hold it and fumbled. A keeper is not our main issue at the moment.

I thought i read he was the only Rangers supporter on the programme. That is probably why they got rid of him. I may be wrong though.

Highly probable that he will go to Arsenal Gav, i don't know about the finished deal bit but they certainly showed an interest last season.

PUNISH EVERY FAN NOT JUST THE OLD FIRM Bain demands ASBOS for all By Anthony Haggerty RANGERS chief executive Martin Bain last night leapt to the defence of the Old Firm as he welcomed new SFA plans to combat sectarianism. And he believes a new offence of unacceptable behaviour could see more clubs out with Rangers and Celtic land in the dock. Bain admitted there is a sectarian problem that is being addressed. But he insisted Rangers and Celtic cannot be blamed for all the ills in Scottish football and should not bear the brunt of all punishments. In a thinly-veiled swipe at Aberdeen in particular the Ibrox supremo maintained other clubs should be targeted for sanctions. Bain said: "It is not appropriate for people and their families to go to grounds, or have fans come to Ibrox, and listen to chants about the death of former players or disasters that may have happened at stadiums. "These are totally repugnant to all people with any moral responsibilty. "I thought everyone round the table had one common goal, basically to eradicate sectarianism from Scotland. "We believe Rangers have an important role to play in that but it's been recognised today that it is not just in isolation to Rangers. Many clubs across Scotland are involved with anti-social behaviour. "Their fans have a responsibility to their club so the benchmark that has been introduced is something we have been promoting for some time. "The detail will be important but in terms of the assesment for all clubs with respect to anti-social behaviour, it is something we will welcome. "There is no doubt the situation we had with Villarreal, the stick UEFA yielded, was one that made people sit up and think it could bring serious consequences for their team. "Yes, there always needs to be a big stick. "I hope those who implement the scheme recognise it is across all clubs, is basically about anti-social behaviour and there is a general assessment - not just Rangers and Celtic in the spotlight. "In the seminar it was clear this isn't just an issue for the Old Firm, it's other clubs and other parts of social responsibilty in Scotland. "If it just turns into Rangers and Celtic in the spotlight and points deductions just for the Old Firm on purely sectarian issues I would take umbrage. "But I have every faith it is about all football in Scotland." Bain was speaking after SFA chief executive David Taylor gave a presentation in Glasgow City Halls yesterday. It was part of the Scottish Executive's second Summit on Sectarianism, outlining proposals to be put in place for the start of next season. They will have to be ratified by the SFA and SPL before getting the go-ahead Included in the eight-point action plan is the ability to impose statutory fines for sectarian offences inside football grounds, deduction of points and even evictions from cup competitions, Taylor insisted football's governing body UEFA had not pressured the SFA into taking a tough stance, But he hopes it will not be too difficult to impose such sanctions in the Scottish game and make it fall in line with European club football and international footballing laws. Taylor said: "Sectarianism is a serious problem in society and Scottish football is caught up in that. "We have to be clear we need to do something about this and perhaps more than we have done in the past. "This has been done because we want to do it and our major clubs want to do it and there is a real willingness within Scottish football to get rid of sectarianism. "I am hoping never to have to impose these punishments but what we need to do as a last resort is to have some sort of sanctions if incidents happen that otherwise could have been prevented. "The SFA and SPL intend to introduce a new disciplinary offence of unacceptable behaviour within football grounds in Scotland. "It will be related to disorderly conduct and be wider than sectarianism which will fall into that remit. "We are in discussion with our colleagues at the SPL and the starting point would be the beginning of next season. "It requires changes to the constitutions of the SFA and SPL to bring is into line with our UEFA and FIFA counterparts and that would be before the start of the 2007/08 season. "Fines, deduction of points and banning from cup competitions are certainly within the UEFA and FIFA statutes and regulations and throughout world football. "We are being encouraged by both these regulatory bodies to do the same. "I myself sit on the UEFA disciplinary committee. "We stopped short last week of deducting points from a team in the UEFA Cup because of the misconduct of their supporters. We decided against it at the 11th hour. "However, we seriously considered it and that just goes to show what those bodies are prepared to do and we have to be ready to do likewise. "The SFA would still have gone ahead with these measures regardless if Rangers had not been fined by UEFA after the Villarreal match incidents. "I wholeheartedly agree with Martin Bain that this is not specifically aimed at punishing just the Old Firm. "This is aimed at behaviour in football grounds in Scotland and broader than sectarianism. "I am not saying the Old Firm will be deducted points for sectarian offences. "I am saying the SFA have to implement and put effective disciplinary sanctions in place as a back-up for any offences that may occur. ""I think the Old Firm fans will get the message." At last a response from Rangers defending our supporters although i get the feeling that Rangers will be the first and probably the only club to be given these tough penalties. It would seem to me when these things are implemented the judges only see the colour blue. We do have a sectarian problem and we must admit that but having different rules for other clubs for anti-social behaviour is also a form of sectarianism. I think Tailors last remark says it all really: ""I think the Old Firm fans will get the message." He only see's fit to mention the old firm surley football fans would have been more appropriate.

I doubt if we will go for Gordon at this time. he will cost too much as he has just signed a new contract and McGregor is also showing signs of being a good keeper. I think Gordon will go to the premiership eventually.

These are the definate thirds from the games on wednesday. Tonight(thursday) the rest will be known.

It will be interesting to see what he does with another team. He will probably have more money to spend at WH.

Their keeper was lucky he never got injured and gave him his chance.

I admit it, it was shocking. I never took my medication.