pete

Were there not all these fueds in the dressing room then? I think you should check back before saying something is rubbish.

I am not a great fan of his either and hope he sells up but as long as he has our club in his hands i will live in hope. I am sad that le Geun never worked but i was losing confidence in him slowly. As i said: Advocaat--- Scottish , Dutch dressing room split. Eck---- Scottish, foreign player split How many Scots had we then so not that difficult to work out who was the Scottish influence. PLG---- Scottish Foreign player split. Anyone see a pattern. Stand up Barry the Snake. If he had played that brilliant for us then i may even agree with him but he was a one season wonder. Oh yeh he was playing with an injury:rolleyes:

No you boo the chairman. Is that different. I dont boo Rangers players i just hate snakes.

Funny we have been going downhil scince Barry Ferguson walked in the door. Advocaat --lost the dressing room Eck-------- lost the dressing room PLG--------lost the dressing room Rangers at heart my arse. I hope the next manager walks in the door and boots Ferguson and his merry band of snake in the grass traitors out the door I am not a great PLG fan but the fact that Barry Ferguson who has done fuck all for Rangers in three years can get rid of a manager\managers is diabolical. Get him to Fuck!!!!

There is also a flip side to the coin it is also possible that players think oh fuck it Barry's got the ball i wont get a pass anyway.

To be honest this is the first time i thought it was called right on Scotsport. Chris Boyd was totally wrong in his schoolboy show of defience.(i Think shot at dawn was literally meant. If i was le Geun he would be out the team for the next game. The manager has to root out the weeds of treason. They can be Scottish. They can be our best players. They cannot think they are better than the manager at picking the team. Or bigger than the club they play for. How can le Guen do his job with these traitors in his his fort. They think they are doing Rangers a favour well in my eyes they are not they are trying to stir up treason. If it means all this group leave the club then so be it, they can be replaced.

Come on jim, possitive thinking your glass is half full. Honest.

by Darrell King DADO PRSO was cautioned by police for gesturing at the Motherwell fans after he was controversially sent off at Fir Park yesterday. As boss Paul Le Guen today revealed Rangers may appeal the red-card on a case of mistaken identity, it has emerged officers went into the dressing room to speak to the Croat after the game to warn him about his conduct. The big striker - earlier brought down for a penalty in gers 1-0 win - had been red-carded by ref Mike McCurry along with Well's Marc Fitzpatrick for their part in the 73rd minute 21-man melee that exploded in the Gers penalty box. And Prso was spotted by police making a sign towards Motherwell fans in the Main Stand as he ran up the tunnel. continued... Rangers will consider an SFA appeal today as they believe TV pictures prove he did little in the bust-up that saw players from both sides steaming in. Prso was red-carded for violent conduct and will automatically miss the Scottish Cup tie at Dunfermline this Sunday. And, in a double blow, the 12 points he will have added to his record takes him through the points threshold and will bring a further suspension, against Dunfermline again when the Gers travel to East End Park on SPL duty on January 21. However, should the SFA look at the TV evidence, Prso's team-mate Nacho Novo could be in trouble as he appeared to lift his hands, as could Motherwell's Richie Foran. Le Guen said: "Maybe the wrong player was sent off. If the referee got it wrong, then we may appeal the decision. . "It was a battle out there, but we managed to get the victory." Motherwell boss Maurice Malpas may also find himself facing the beaks for after-match comments. He felt Prso had conned McCurry for the spot kick and rapped: "We're upset about the penalty. I just thought an experienced referee got conned by an experienced striker." Here we go again. Why is it Rangers players that are always brought to book.

Amen to that!!!!

Maybe Fergie has accepted the boot up the arse. Lets hope one way or the other we get back to winning football games.

Your a bit biased though Jim;)

My feelings totally, Barry should do more by doing less.

Cammy you were one of the ones that was pushing for young Scottish players comming through mate. You shouldn't change your mind like the weather just to have a dig at Murray. Sorry mate i would like to see someone at the top who really wants to improve Rangers but we can't turn everything into stones to throw.

Your looking at this in a very Black and white way Cal. I am not sure about le Guen but i am still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know you said at the bottom the players are not blameless but that is like putting small print at the bottom of a registration form. If a player is going to spit the dummy every time he gets dropped or rested then it is the players that are in the wrong and not the manager. What happened to fighting for your place back? Now it seems to be shit i am dropped i think i will cause a commotion that will get me back in the team. Players are payed high wages these days and that should buy a bit of trust not a lot of backstabbing moaning spoiled brats. If your dropped prove the manager you are wrong on the training field and not in the press. As for the Bardsley incident we don't really know what happened, but if Bardsley was intentionally trying to injure Buffel then i would think the manager would have every right to take the action that he did. It is easy to name all the points making it look like the manager is wrong but life is not always black and white. These days players need to be rested when possible as the game is much more demanding as in the past, all the top teams do it. The players need to get their fingers out their arses and fight for their place as Nacho did and was rewarded by the manager. Don't forget Rangers wanted to sell him before le Guen came in.

Le Guen said yesterday Barry would train as normal, so don't read anything into that. I agree it is a sad day if the players can dictate when and if the manager comes and goes.

Amen!!!! That is true whoever is right.

Totally agree Ian. It takes time to sort out problems, especially if there are a few snakes in the grass( i am not saying that is the case). We need to give le Guen at least next season, but remember Alex Ferguson was almost sacked and it took him many years to sort things out.

I remember many posts last year saying we would be willing to lose the league a few years if we brought in youth players. Le Guen has brought the average age to 22 and he is being slagged off. We can't have our cake and eat it.

Yeh and the Tims seem to be doing it without Barry Feguson.( God forgive me)

I think everyone has doubts at the moment but i think a manager has to have longer than six months to sort things out. His signings, well??????

Agreed it could be that but did Eck and Advocaat not also have trouble in the dressing room. Maybe Fergie has been playing the devils lawyer. He does seem to have the Scots boys behind him but is that the trouble is he causing cliques in the dressing room. I think you can look at this from all sides and everyone will take a different view.

The Scottish cup is a snip as well as long as we avoid St Johnstone.

I guess the bubbles burst.

Is it on Rangers tv you get the games live over the internet. Is it any good and what does it cost. I may think of getting it for next season. I have also heard you get the setanta games over Polish satellite anyone know anything about that.

That brings up the point that managers don't put too much importance on the captains role, if they think they can just chop and change. Maybe le Guen is right on that one.