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BMCK The thing is if this was not thrown up by UEFA or the government, neither the RST or any other supporters would be trying to change things at the speed things are happening now. The Billy Boys and *** would still be echoing round the Ibrox terraces. Force is not the way to change things but sometimes people need a shove in the right direction to get things going. Whether people feel abused or not, is not the issue the fact is it is anti-social behaviour and as a society we should be trying to eradicate that behaviour. This does not mean people can't hold their beliefs it means they\we have to learn to live next to and respect others with other beliefs. BMCK Unfortunately religion\sectarianism is one of the possible reasons kids and also adults are bullied. Also a kid in a Rangers or Celtic top getting stabbed may not be a sectarian act as you say, it may be a knife culture but surely the way to go forward is to eradicate them both and rid ourselves of the deed and the possible motive. BMCK Protestantism/Catholicism or even Muslim certainly doesn't preach psychological abuse if they are followed in the right way. Unfortunately some abuse these religions and use them as a reason to hate. As you say, sectarian killings are possibly teenage thuggery, but by your same yes and no way of thinking, there is a huge possibility that it is sectarian. If a person is knifed or attacked on his way home from a game by youths wearing opposite colours and he\she doesn't die, do you not think this would leave massive psychological scars? When you are trying to fumigate rats you have to fumigate the whole house you cannot allow them clear areas as they will only breed, that is why football grounds have to be targeted as well as they are seen as havens for bigots to shout their abuse. I am glad we both agree that education is the right way forward and as i said it is not about losing our religion but accepting and respecting other peoples beliefs.

Good piece but one i totally disagree with. Turning a blind eye does not just make things die down or go away. Try telling the parents of all the kids who commit suicide due to school bullying that we should let the bullies get on with it in the hope it stops. You may be Psychologically strong enough to turn a blind eye to abuse be it verbal or Psychological, but the fact is millions of people are not and these people who are Psychologically weaker have to be protected by the stronger minded. Secondly why should the majority accept the morals and values of these morons in the minority as you say. I agree that using force to eradicate anything mostly works in the opposite direction and makes people more staunch. We must not turn a blind eye on any anti-social behaviour , nor should we use force to eradicate it, but we should be trying to educate people especially kids from a young age. Teaching people to respect one another is the way forward and that has to be taught by parents to there kids, not learning them *** and other party pieces before they are out their nappies. As for Ibrox, Rangers have control of who comes into the stadium. If you want to support Rangers then you are welcome but if you want to support bigotry, then no turning any blind eye, all supporters have now been well warned they will not be welcome in the future. The government are voted in by the majority and are totally correct in trying to eradicate any anti-social behaviour be it bigotry, racism, terrorism etc but it has to be eradicated on both sides of the divide and that is where things are not always on an even ground. Things won't change overnight but if nobody does anything they won't change at all. Although we hated UEFA's stance against us, maybe in the long run it will be a blessing in disguise.

If we bring Alves from Herenveen with him we will be set for the next few years. Och well dream on:sleep:

Not every one obviously i was in your team. :(

Well i think one thing is certain which has proved itself, Barry Ferguson is not that man. Anyone who thinks they are better than all the other players put together and won't pass to certain players because he has cast judgement on them is certainly not the man for the job. As i have said before, Advocaat, lost the dressing room. Eck, lost the dressing room. PLG, lost the dressing room. Let us now look for a common denominator and the one player to play for all three managers is Barry Ferguson. Funnily enough Ruud Gullit said over Feynoord yesterday" If your best player has a negative influence in the dressing room it shows on the park. If we can get 3 or 4 mill for Barry there are plenty of players out there who will fight for the team more than Barry has. Let Barry go to, dancing with the stars, his twists and turns will get the jury to unite in front of him, just like he gives the opposition defence the time to do. Maybe he is better at the Paso Doble than pass the ball�½. Hopefully we will sell him and then maybe we can all learn to jive.

No he is a youth coach at Ajax. He is 37 Gribz, too old for Rangers now.

Has been offered a new contract bij Al-Shamal in Quatar. Shit we could have used him the last few years.

As the old saying goes" sometimes less is more" Barry may be one of the most talented players in Scotland and possibly England as well(i am serious on that) but the fact is he is not a team player. He does what Barry Ferguson wants to do and not what is best for the team. As Gribz said, at the beginning of the season we played awesome football until Barry came back in, and we went downhill from there. The fact that Boyd gave his six finger salute does not mean that the dressing room was with Fergie, but that Boyd was also a traitor.

This guy Lennon seems to be a fantastic prospect from what i have been reading recently i hope he breaks into the first team squad next season or even gets a game this season when second place is certain. Well done to the guy's hopefully they win the league and Falkirk finish second.

Unfortunately we now live in an over the top capitalist world and the most important thing in the world is keeping the shareholders happy. If the News of the world print a story that sells millions of extra papers but get taken to court and have to pay a few hundred thousand then it is good business. We all play a roll in the whole process. We all want to read about sensation. If it is posted on here tomorrow Rangers u19's struggle to beat Dundee utd u19's or Barry Ferguson arrested for beating his wife, what story will you read first? In these times where wages have been almost frozen, papers can't put in huge price increases so they have to sell more papers and if that means telling a few lies then so what.

The squads were much smaller in the seventies and the same players played week in week out. As you were only allowed 2 subs they were in fact mainly used for injuries. Reserve players were mostly from the second team so therefore there were fewer Duds,more just young players that didn't quite make it. Add Colin West to the list, i believe he was a Souness signing.

Excellent read Barry. I watched a programme a while back where all the top sport journalists gave their account of the changing faces of the press. Until the 1978 WC the journalists were actually a part of the team and travelled in the same airplaines as the team. Because of that, all that happened within the team was actually an open book. After all the hysteria of Ally and his tartan army the chief editors of the papers decided to send the sensation journalists to the WC behind the backs of the sport journalists. This actually led to fights in bars between the two sets of journalists as the sports journalists realised there position of trust was in jeopardy. The Willie Johnston drugs fiasco gave the sensation press their story and football appeared on the front pages which in those days was almost unknown. After that football clubs saw what the press could do, the position of trust for the sports journalists disappeared. The modern day press has unfortunately become totally sensationalist and a player getting drunk in a bar gets bigger headlines than a 4-4 draw with 4 missed penalties. Unfortunately Mr Murray has decided hiding his head in the sand is the best way to defend our club. If he was a football defender he would have been dropped long ago. If one of his companies got bad press in the stock exchange he would react immediately. Mr Murray it is time to join the first team and be a great defender of our club.

Did the bad play not coincide with Fergie coming back into the team?

Just watched the game again and noticed a number of red hand flags in the crowd. Funny i never read anywhere in the press about sectarian flags at the game.

Was on one of the Dutch football programmes Gribz. He is still really young and i hate to admit a great prospect for the future, so not that strange imo really, as the Manu midfield are kicking on

Luc Devroe the technical manager of Club Brugge said today that six players will be leaving at the end of the season. He said they have shown here that they can't play football, maybe they can do better at another club. Well that fills me with confidence on Bosko Balaban right away or is it sour grapes.

To make it in the SPL you need to have a basic heading ability and he doesn't seem to have that. Gets caught sleeping a lot as well. I think he will struggle to get into the first team so it would be better to let him go.

RANGERS under-19s have beaten Ross County 3-0 in their SFA Youth Cup semi-final clash in Dingwall tonight. Victoria ParkA crowd of 1,493 travelled to Victoria Park to watch the Staggies take on Billy Kirkwood's team but the home side failed to match their SPL opponents who romped to a comprehensive victory. Steven Lennon, who was in superb form, opened the scoring on 18 minutes with a typically composed finish but despite dominating the first-half Rangers failed to increase their advantage up to the interval. This all changed when William McLachlan replaced winger Adda Djeziri on 57 minutes and the substitute was to score with his first touch before Andrew Shinnie celebrates his goalAndrew Shinnie secured a memorable win against the SFL Champions by netting a third on 66 minutes. County will have been disappointed not to test keeper Scott Gallacher more throughout the tie but there is no doubt that Rangers were worthy winners and the Murray Park starlets can now look forward to a final against Old Firm rivals Celtic at Hampden on April 26. RANGERS: Gallacher, Lowing, Kinniburgh, Perry, Smith, Emslie, Djeziri (McLachlan ), Shinnie, Lennon, Furman, McMillan

Chris Coleman was sacked as manager of Fulham tonight. Laurie sanchez takes his place. Coleman sacked as Fulham manager Chris Coleman Coleman had been in charge at Fulham for 10 years Fulham have sacked manager Chris Coleman and his assistant Steve Kean with immediate effect. Northern Ireland manager Lawrie Sanchez will take over on a caretaker basis for the remainder of the season. Fulham lie four points above the Premiership drop zone after a seven-game winless streak, but the sacking still comes as a surprise. Fulham issued a statement thanking Coleman for his "fantastic service during his 10 years at the club". "It is disappointing that the club has no alternative but to part company," the statement continued. "As a team and organisation Fulham Football Club has goals to attain and success to achieve and by no means can this be compromised. "As part of the restructure, Steve Kean will also be replaced with immediate effect. "After consultation with the Irish FA president Jim Boyce, it is agreed that Lawrie Sanchez will join as caretaker manager for the remaining five Premiership games of the season."

You can like or dislike Jos�© Mourinho but he is a fantastic coach. Real Madrid prove you can buy all the players you want but it does not guarantee success. Jos�© seemingly can.

Evander Sno---Man utd Franck Ribery----Arsenal or Manchester United

Noises coming from Belgium that this move is getting close to being a done deal.

Friggn forgot the CL was on tonight and couldn't believe it when i turned the telly on and it was 5-0. 7-1 I don't think many would have had that score on their coupon.

Even if we sort out our problems today, the present day press will for the coming years search every nook and cranny to find something to throw at us. If they don't find anything then they will attack our history and tell us we have only papered over the cracks. I am afraid we will have to sort out our problems and wait for a new generation of supporters and journalists before it is accepted we have changed.

Nah i would rather pay to watch Brechin city on a rainy day than go to my work in scorching sun.