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I am sure I remember when they all wheeled out their experts who said that not only were face masks useless, they would actually be dangerous. Or did I dream that? I think these are the experts bill is talking about. Or maybe it's the experts at the WHO who said this was not serious at all. Then after lobbying these experts are now changing their opinions. Funny that. It would be educational to look back at those interviews but I doubt many will do that. According to some on here, COVID is also a cure for other health conditions. It's cured flu completely (ONS statistics), and now very few people die with heart disease or stroke (ONS statistics). It's a miracle. Nothing to see here. It's also amazing that lockdown actually increased the death rate (ONS official figures again). Anyone want to dispute that? I won't wear a mask. It's not selfish, it's just called being smart (in my opinion). I think wearing a mask is stupid, useless, and still causes the same dangers we were warned about when the experts explained why they would do nothing to prevent the spread of this or any other virus. Selective memories, or short ones being demonstrated on here. I do however realise it's pointless because there has been a brilliant effort to brainwash the masses into believing the official story and that's proven on here. It's funny that Rousseau said I had made some pretty big statements and where was the evidence. I just wish that same question had been asked of the governments and officials when they locked us down, removed freedoms, and killed thousands of people as a result of their actions. Nope, there was no demand for evidence then, we just went along with it. Not me! Anyway, I just came on to send a couple of private messages and realise I should not have re-engaged. I've really enjoyed my time on Gersnet. Hopefully the one thing we do agree on (seeing a successful Rangers team) can be realised this season. I wish you all and yours the very best.

I gave you facts about the numbers. You can check them. I told you about personal experience and why this is so important to me to find out the truth. Bluedell responded in a childish manner (in my opinion) and I reacted. I'll just leave it for a while because I'm not getting the feeling that anyone else is interested or bothered - which is fine. Good luck. Cheers.

I was wondering why you'd be a moderator as it clearly wasn't based on your ability to engage in rational debate. But now I know .. it's down to your incredible wit. You win though. You've closed me down. ??????

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I'm not sure if that's a question or a statement. The actuaries have excellent data and have accurately predicted death rates over the past 20 years in particular. They predicted many more deaths in 2020 but this was before anyone was talking about COVID 19. They now have the challenge of predicting the devastating effects these restrictions will have on mortality rates in the future. I've seen some early indications of this assessment and it does really worry me. I know it worries many people in the know in the NHS but they're not allowed to speak out. If what we are being told is the truth, why threaten and silence the NHS staff? Wouldn't you agree that it's worth a closer look and possibly an independent investigation? Surely that's the least we should ask for?

I'm so sorry to hear that but I completely understand. This is why I'm so passionate about this issue. There are three instances in particular that annoy me at the moment: 1. There are very important people in my life who are not receiving the medical treatment because of this lockdown and subsequent restrictions and it's going to be the cause of them dying. That is a fact! 2. There are people who have died and their families are being told the cause of death is COVID when they know it's not. That might seem a trivial thing to many of you, but to my family its very important that the true cause of death was recorded. It wasn't, despite many escalations to senior staff and even politicians. They know what's going on but seem unwilling to challenge it for some reason. 3. Family and friends have been unable to spend the last few days with loved ones because of these restrictions. I hope none of you have to suffer the torture of knowing your loved ones suffered and died alone. That to me is inhumane and something I will never forgive these people for. And then to restrict who can attend a funeral - only to see hundreds of people being allowed to line the streets in Ireland for an IRA terrorist. It's sickening. If anyone has a close friend or relative who either works in a hospital or has to attend one, please ask them what they are seeing. The hospitals are empty.

I'm fine to talk about it I feel you want to, but they're not caused by COVID.

In October 2019, the prediction was for an 83k increase in deaths for 2020. There are many reasons for this. The problem we now have is that there is a knock on effect of deaths which will be caused by the effects of the lockdown (e.g. Lack of cancer screening) and these numbers are what really frighten me.

Corona virus does exist because it's well documented over the past 70 years, but what I don't believe is that it's so much more dangerous than previous strains. There is now overwhelming evidence that the numbers are grossly exaggerated. People are dying with it, but most of them are not dying from it - they're dying of other chronic and pre-existing conditions. In each of these cases, COVID was being out as the cause of death. Do you know how many people die each year because of flu in England? It's about 17,000 and that remains fairly constant, although in 2015 it was more severe and almost 29,000 people died that year. This year, how many people have died from flu so far? Zero! Does that mean COVID has cured flu? There's a similar story for other respiratory conditions. I have spoken to 6 fairly senior people in the NHS and they all fail to understand the rationale for the current guidance. They've all been warned however about speaking out, in fact they've been threatened with being suspended if they do. I am not trying to upset anyone, but I don't think it does any of us any harm to check out the facts of this rather than rely on the small number of people who are feeding the various governments the current lines. And for the record, I don't want or expect anyone to believe what I'm saying. In fact quite the opposite. I'd like others to look into this for themselves rather than relying on what they're being told by the government and the media.

I don't want to stray too much off topic but we've never distanced for any corona virus in the past so I've no idea why this one is any different. The rate of infection and death rate is hugely exaggerated as is being proven by NHS whistleblowers. I hope this scandal is exposed at some stage but by that stage the damage is already done. I expect history will show that lockdown and social distancing killed more people and ruined more lives than the so called virus will. And yet no one in the media is strong enough to challenge the obvious holes in this horrible 'hoax'. As it's the Rangers forum, my particular concern here is the effect it's having on our club, and yet I don't see anything being done to mitigate the risk of what will happen if the stadiums remain empty. I'm still very worried about what this is likely to do to the viability of our league and club. With Doncaster and co in charge of the wider league I've got even less confidence. I'd love someone to give me a reason to be hopeful.

I agree the sign was rather stupid, but for what it's worth I am one of a growing majority that believe this COVID 'pandemic' is no more of a virus than many previous years. And there s no doubt it does impinge on freedoms which I think is unacceptable. So please don't conflate these things as I think it just dilutes your argument.

They are 'preventing' the youth players from getting game time because they're better players. It's 100% down to the youth players to show that they're better. If they are, they'll get game time. In my opinion I don't think any of the current players are good enough to break into the first team. Kelly has an opportunity to prove me wrong this season on his loan, and I hope he does. The rest are good players, but do we really think that Kennedy can be anywhere near as effective as Hagi or Kent? Do we think Patterson can do the job of Tav? I don't. It's an inconvenient truth but the only one who did look like a first team player was Gilmour and we've lost him to Chelsea. If these others were really that promising they'd be attracted elsewhere too. I'm sure they'll have careers but not at Rangers.

I must have missed this caveat. Where did the club say that? Regarding the OP, for what it's worth I'm sick of the political stuff becoming conflated with the club. Equally I'm sick of the increasing restrictions on free speech. As far as the trans debate is concerned, I have a view that would be very unpopular with all trans people but I don't want our club to get involved in that debate. Leave that to the politicians and law makers to sort out (although in my opinion this current government mob will screw that up too). Our club has demonstrated that it can't even get enough support to ask for an enquiry when everyone knew corruption was afoot in our league, so who will care one bit about what our club thinks about non football matters? As a club and support we have much bigger problems to deal with if this idiotic/dangerous 'social distancing' continues. I've still not seen or heard anything from the club that suggests we are preparing well for the repercussions if the stadium continues to be empty. So to worry about who is standing next to us in a toilet is utterly irrelevant to me at this point.

The signing of Hagi is a no brainer under normal circumstances. It represents excellent value for money and the high likelihood of a large profit at some point. I found myself reading this news and yet not being as pleased as I would normally be. The reason is that I've still got this deep rooted fear of the impact that this lockdown is having (and will continue to have) on the financial stability of our club. It would appear that despite overwhelming evidence that this lockdown was completely unnecessary, and in fact more damaging than the 'disease' itself, our government (and others) seems determined to persist with it. The consistent message is that social distancing will be a part of our lives for a long time, and "possibly for years" (according to some government advisers). If that is the case, what is the club doing to ensure its long term future? Does the board know something about the government's plans that I don't? Season tickets are out as normal and yet we don't know if any of us will be able to attend any matches. I still don't see any liaising with fans regarding contingency plans for next season. It is similar to the approach taken by the airlines. Despite no prospect of the majority of flights ever taking off, the airlines continued to sell tickets. Customers continued (and still continue) to buy tickets, assuming that if the tickets were for sale that somehow their flight must be running. As each flight was cancelled, those customers then attempted to reclaim their money, only to be told that it would take months for a refund. Why did the airlines do this? Because they still need the money, and it's worth incurring letters and emails from thousands of complaining customers to ensure their financial stability - for now. Is this Rangers' tactic too? I am desperate for our club to get 55, but until I get a sense of comfort that the board is planning for a season without fans (and the financial consequence of that) I cannot get excited about signings or any other onfield activities.

I don't think there's any point having backups (goal keepers or otherwise) that can't compete for a first team place. Those not in the first eleven should be fighting for their places. Wes was never going to become our number one again so he is better away. I'd much prefer to see McCrorie back and pushing for the jersey. None of the players we let go were never a serious threat to any of the first eleven. Good luck to them as I've said, but we need to keep moving forward.

I'm in agreement with you, but does that mean we have to thank Joey Barton too?!? That's a stretch for me I'm afraid. As for the current players leaving, this is obviously the right decision. They'll all find their level somewhere else. They all served the club well and as a fan it's great to see someone like Halliday get to live out the dream many of us have/had. He will clearly have hoped to have a winner's medal but I'm sure he will still enjoy celebrating in the stands with the rest of us when we get 55.

I like that statement. What I hope is that this goes beyond a "no confidence" vote and that these SPFL directors are challenged in court. We've had clubs claiming that they have been bullied, the CEO informed, and yet no inquiry. This is not optional. It is a fundamental requirement of every business in the world to protect whistleblowers and to investigate their concerns. It is a criminal offence not to do so. Why do they think they are above the law? I'd be happy if my Club 1872 funds went towards legal proceedings. This is just mind blowing that this is happening, never mind seeing that commentators think it's alright. There's a huge story here. Don't they want it?

I read that Peter made a "rousing speech". Can anyone explain to me why he is making any sort of speech at all? He isn't on the board. Funny how he's had nothing to say up to now. This is just going from outrageous to ridiculous by the hour.

Today's vote is really just about due process. We will not get our inquiry as a result of this vote, and in fact I'll be surprised if we even get 20% of clubs voting for it. The clubs know who runs Scottish football and are living in fear of consequences. Having said this, we must go through the process before we can take it through the inevitable legal process. That will take time unfortunately but we must do it. There are a few interesting things that may come out of the vote however ... 1. At what point does it become obvious that Doncaster has to go? If 20% of clubs vote for this, is that enough to warrant his resignation? 30%? 2. The noise will not go away and will only intensify regardless of the outcome, so what will the next steps be? Will individual clubs take their own legal routes or will they band together? 3. Rangers must take a stand after this. I mentioned earlier about clubs fearing the consequences of voting against Celtic, err I mean the SPFL. There must also be consequences for them mistreating us constantly and that has to be in the form of ticket sales. We must NOT take tickets at these clubs and the club could help this effort. 4. Will the SPFL immediately then seek to hand the title to Celtic? I fully expect this to be their next move. In fact I expect this to happen within days of the vote. They will do it after "receiving the support from its members" and certainly before the legal process makes it difficult. As soon as they've been handed the title I'm sure Peter will be looking for his next puppet as Neil Doncaster will have served his purpose.

I have a solution. Declare me the winner or I'll burn your house down, kidnap your family, hack the Gersnet site and post pictures of @Rousseau and @BEARGER naked together. Please note that this is not a threat, it's merely me pointing out the consequences of your actions. It cannot therefore be misconstrued as bullying in any way. Please also remember that I am making this suggestion purely as a fan and not in my capacity as a member of the Gersnet prediction league.

He's either a perpetual liar (not a very good one) or grossly incompetent. Either way he's got to go. If any club votes against an inquiry they deserve to die off. Incompetence/corruption is rife in our game.

This is all heating up nicely and we are in a strong position to get the outcome we want, but I do hope our board is also working on a plan as to how we will survive this season. I remain concerned about the lack of apparent cost cutting I'd hope to see under the circumstances. If we cannot return to capacity crowds, how many of our season ticket holders will seek refunds, and what will that do to the stability of our finances? The board is performing well at the moment in other matters but I want to see some action in this regard also.

I've written an open letter to the Gersnet Prediction League board Dear Chairman @Rousseau I have just received a fourth cease and desist request from your solicitors. For some reason you have suggested that I implied that you were being economical with the truth when you brought the prediction league to an early close. I refute this claim and wanted to put what I actually said on the record so there's no ambiguity. What I actually called you was a lying, deceitful, conniving, scum bucket of a moron who is so far up @BEARGER's backside. Everything you do is to help him win the league at all costs and I'm going to call on all my Masonic brothers to see that you not only lose your job, but that you never find another position in Scotland. And for the avoidance of doubt, if I can't get the support of my fellow Gersnetters to get my inquiry next week, I'm going to stop liking their posts. They don't deserve my blue thumbs up, and let's see how they all survive without them. Screw you all. No one likes me, and I don't make care. I am the people. Get it right up ye ya corrupt bassas @Gaffer

I'm calling for @Rousseau to be suspended pending an inquiry. I've received threats from @Bill, @Frankie and @Gonzo79 but I will not surrender.

Any club that voted YES in the SPFL proposal and who is subsequently bleating about the lack of reconstruction can just GTF!!! If they really thought that was going to happen then they're as unfit to run their clubs as the executives are at the SPFL. This is an utter shambles. Despite this, Rangers is under attack from the usual morons in the media. Some of what they're writing is beyond belief to anyone outside of Scotland. These guys are to blame for the state of our game, just as much as ND, RM and MM. Time and time again they fail to play their role in presenting facts or even a rational opinion.