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England are very fortunate not to be down by a cricket score tonight.

Paterson is the best Scottish RB?,I know Hutton is injured but is he much better these days?,Rangers have the best RB playing in Scotland and he gets slaughtered for being a poor defender!!!!

Because I don't watch much English football many of those playing for Scotland are strangers to me. All I can say is, either they've caught the usual disease of turning to crap when donning a Scotland jersey or English football is much worse than I suspected.

I don't know how I could find out, but I'm almost certain the game against Czechoslovakia was on tv during daylight hours. I was a wee boy and recall asking my dad why the crowd were all whistling.

As for Davie himself - I met him a few times and always found him to be a total gentleman. He was one of my favourite players during that era.

I can't remember the last I watched a Scotland match?, I'm watching this and wondering if Scotland are always so poor?

I'm now watching and believe me Ian - this is as well as I've seen them play for some years now.

Scotland 1-0 down.

I'm sitting in the living room with headphones on listening to radio coverage.

" Maguire's defence solicitor Tony Callaghan " - there's a surprise, eh ?

Having only listened intermittently on radio and watched the highlights on tv, can anybody tell me if Darren Fletcher played ? I neither heard nor saw any sign of him. That's not a dig at him. I'm being honest.

As I have worked in Holland for the last 35 years I can only really talk about Holland and European rules. It is very hard to sack someone with immediate effect. There really has to be a crime for that like theft or assault. For normal sacking you normally have to have two written warnings for bad behaviour before they can sack you. I am not sure how it works in Britain but it can't be very different if they are following European rules.

Around 1980 I was offered a job at a steel making plant in the Netherlands. Please excuse the spelling, but a place called "Heerhogovliet" or similar.

I really don't think it works like that - ever... There is always a lot of discretion. No two employees have the same record nor exactly the same misconduct. There is no black and white about it.

I have to agree with your point there cal.

I faced a disciplinary hearing and got a punishment far above what others had received. At appeal it was more or less proven that the company were seeking to punish me for periods of illness rather than what I was supposed to have done wrong. The punishment was overturned and I was recompensed what I'd lost.

I'd be happier here if some of the speculation being taken to the extreme stopped, at least until we know the full story.

Not being a Warburton signing is something the manks with "contacts" have been pushing.

Disagreement between Warburton and King is another.

We made a mistake signing him and simply can't afford his wages is something they're still shoving.

The media and online "guys in the know" are going frantic despite having none of the facts.

The story will eventually appear and there's no reason for us to start criticising the manager, boardroom or anybody else until we are told.

This kind of reminds me of Colin McKenzie.

Who is that mate ?

Suspended for another week.

I suspect he was told to apologise or similar and has failed to do so. Either that or he's done something else moronic we've yet to read about.

It's no exageration to say that Glasgow was as strong a footballing city as any in the world at the time.

The European Cup and European Cup Winners Cup semi-finals both being played in Glasgow on the same night and watched by in excess of 150,000 fans.

Celtic lost to Inter Milan while we defeated Bayern Munich.

You have to wonder how the polis coped. These days a balloon stall getting opened in George Square sees matches cancelled.

We could have Guardiola in charge and it wouldn't change the fact that the required quality isn't there. Strachan isn't a great manager, but he's definitely not the main problem. We probably should try to replace him, but until the talent is there we're never going to get anywhere.

Listening to Strapon bumming up Lithuania on tv yesterday made me feel sick SBS.

" They won't come to put 10 across the back. They'll have a go" was raising a white flag before a ball was kicked.

We all know we don't have a squad of world beaters. Christ, we can barely raise a team that would finish in the top six of the SPL.

But ffs ! I'm so brassed of with the guff coming out from Hampden. It's been happening for years.

Strachan strikes me as being a former player who became a pundit. Somehow he staggered into management and got lucky. But there is nothing professional about the bloke. Soundbytes for the 3 minute report on the STV news is all fair and well . I'm looking for somebody resembling a manager rather than a wanabe comic. He should appear wearing clown make-up.

His erse should've been thrown out the front door of Hampden after his last fiasco trying to qualify.

I'll make a prediction right now - apart from the next Malta match we have gained our last point.

Equaliser thoroughly deserved. Ref is an arsehole who has been accommodating the chronic Lithuanian time wasting.

Switching over off and on to listen . At least the ref added 5 minutes.

Strapon is our problem. We have no chance of qualifying with him in charge. He thinks he's funny - a career onstage awaits.

The badges went on general sale online today. Mine are already ordered.

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Strachan just can't stop with the jokes - "Darren Fletcher is an example for kids to follow". Yes, if turning into the invisible man every time you pull on a Scotland jersey is your main aim.

How that guy continues to gain caps totally defeats me.

Its interesting to read older posters of that time. Like Frankie mentioned it is slightly too early for me to comment. I do recall a lot of Scottish football in general from 1983/4 onwards even at the age of 4 and 5 but its mainly cup finals, internationals and European games. Between late 70s until Souness came I wouldn't like to comment on the baron spell.

 

But it goes in circles. Once we regained supremacy Celtic then had their horrendous spell between 1991-1998 with the exception of a couple of cup finals one which they lost to Raith. There was then a short period where it seemed to be 2/3 seasons for Rangers at the top then 2/3 for Celtic until 2012.

 

I cant for one minute believe the late 70s early 80s could compare to our last 4 years going through the divisions. It usually takes a max of 7 or 8 seasons for the circle to end so we probably should expect it to take us 2 seasons back in the top flight before we are champions again.

I started going to Ibrox when the Richie, Shearer, Caldow, Greig, McKinnon, Baxter, ........ side were successful. I then had to endure the title going elsewhere for 9 years in a row. But what is often forgotten is, we played some great football ourselves during those years. Probably thankfully , I worked abroad for several years so missed most of the late 70's, early 80's when it would seem from reading here, we were pretty awful. I didn't even know about the Chesterfield match until I read this thread.

I'll agree with you that things go in circles. I've no doubt we will be back on top again in the not too distant future.

Every one a product of a state funded bigot factory is my bet.

Every one a member of the gangrene brigade would be my guess.

Just shows how bad we were then. Stevens was awful.

Strangely enough, just a few weeks ago a mate said to me we could be doing with someone like Stevens as a strong link in our side right now.

My reply I think put that one out to dry - could we depend on the rest of our defence to guard the resultant free kicks around the box ?

I don't think the guy could spell football.

 

Talking of snow, our European Cup second round game, second leg at PSV's grouns was late November. We had drawn the first leg at Ibrox 0-0. PSV had NEVER been defeated at home in Europe. They had a wonderful side, including the Van Der Kirkoff brothers. I attended the game on the open terrace amid snow flurries. It was 2-2 going into the last quarter, the play had lengthened, but PSV were slowly dominating. Tommy McLean won the ball in the center circle, looked up as PSV's defence closed up on the offside, a deep running Bobby Russell ran through the back four as Calemero released a 40 yard diagonal pass. It was a foot race between Bobby and the PSV keeper, the Ranger won and passed the ball into the net from 30 yards to make it 2-3. We saw the ball coming towards us on that terracing, and we danced in the snow before the ball crossed the line.

That was one of my best euro trips abroad that match. We were brilliant and it took me about a week to sober up.

The international break is killing me this week and normally they just don't bother me.

On the day of the match against the manks I headed over to France for a break with family and friends and came back with a virus that floored me for well over a week. My laptop was gubbed and I couldn't keep up with what was happening at our club. Then, dragging myself out of my sick bed I had to go to Spain to help repair a mates boat . On return I got a new laptop but can't find anything worthwhile footballwise to talk about as I've missed so much recently - which is a bummer as I'm feeling quite sprightly right now.

Still, I'll be looking forward to seeing the Scotland game at the weekend.

I don't really see the point of flying a flag of your country in a game against another team of your own country. In Europe it's different - where a Scottish flag would be appropriate but not really the union flag - especially as the English and Welsh won't let us join a British league.

 

I think doing so is a bit like usurping the flag of your nation for yourself which is pretty arrogant - and what England did with the union flag which made it so unpopular in Scotland for a while.

 

There is an argument that the country is correct and the colours correct for both flags...

 

One other argument is that when we play against Celtic - they are flying a flag of a different country and have an anti-British and Scottish sentiment, so flying both flags at those games have more of a point, and I find it very strange that other teams are not offended by their enmity towards our populace, and fly the flags also.

 

But it doesn't work in the rest of the league except perhaps against Hibs - and a lot of our singing repertoire then, makes it look as if we are defined by them - something we are always accusing them of.

 

IIRC when I was young, the predominant Rangers flags were actually French - just for the colours, maybe with an RFC motif on the white part. Mine certainly was.

 

I don't get flying flags from other places that are to do with that place - like the Red Hand of Ulster... We're a Scottish team, so while not being Scottish and following the team is fine, I don't think it's appropriate to fly a foreign flag, as it kind of insults the home nation of the team - if you support an English team would you take a Scottish flag to the game? I don' think that would be appropriate, nor a St George's Cross to a Scottish game.

 

The same goes for players wrapping themselves in their foreign national flags when they win something - it's not really that bad but it is just wrong in my eyes. There is a time and a place.

At Rangers matches in my youth I waved a saltire mainly because it was the same colours as ours, not because it was my national flag. The fact I could use it at international matches was a bonus.

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