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" Charles Green's bid to have Rangers cover his legal bills will be heard in court on the same day as the first installment of his fraud trial. The former chief executive of the Ibrox club, who faces four charges relating to the alleged fraudulent purchase of assets in 2012, claims a severance agreement signed a year later entitles him to have his costs paid by his former employers. The bid to have his costs paid will be heard at the Court of Session in Edinburgh on Friday, October 16 in front of Lord Tyre. At the same time, the first public hearing of his case will take place at Glasgow's High Court. Rangers have previously stated they will contest the action by Green to have his bills covered. "Charles Green approached the club prior to his arrest and demanded that we pay his legal costs in respect of his co-operation with Police Scotland in its criminal investigation into his time as an officer of the club," their chairman, Dave King, said in September. "I advised him that we would not do so. He was subsequently arrested and has now approached the court to compel the club to pay the legal costs of his defence to the criminal charges. "This application will be strongly resisted." Green faces charges including involvement in organised crime, conspiracy, fraud and also under the Companies Act 2006. He is due to appear at the High Court in Glasgow with six others to face the charges. Former Rangers oldco owner Craig Whyte, former commercial director Imran Ahmad, oldco joint administrators David Whitehouse and Paul Clark, Gary Withey and David Grier were also charged. "

Any political party worth its salt would call for a campaign to have every one of Ashleys companies subject of a total public embargo. He should be driven out of business. On a side note - Duff and Phelps again ???

I think we have the right board in place, proper fan representation excepted but understandable right now. I believe when they gained power they were being honest with assurances and promises made at that time. Although they knew like the rest of us financial jiggery-pokery had been taking place I also think like the rest of us they didn't fully know how deep it all ran and one or two pieces surrounding latter crown office actions tend to point to that. The board will know that until and unless certain players in this farce end up in jail and alleged criminal activity clears up who has claim to what, everything is still up in air. They are obviously talented and wealthy businessmen who don't throw good money after bad so here is my amateur take on what will happen with the club in the near future ; soft loans if necessary and funding via the fans will keep the club ticking along. An announcement will be made at some point saying legal actions have clouded the future plan but there is money waiting to be invested. We will gain promotion , a handful of players will come in before next season and that will be it. I don't blame the board if that is all we see. My short term satisfaction will come from seeing those who inflicted this misery on our support being led away in handcuffs post trial.

This is something I've often considered. There can't be any doubt that a match being on tv must affect gate money. Therefore the club hosting tv companies for live coverage must be losing the most through the gate.

"17:27Tuesday 06 October 2015 Falkirk assistant manager Alan Maybury has been suspended for one game by the SFA – but Peter Houston has yet to respond to the charge from the association after the refereeing fall-out at Ibrox. Boss Houston blasted match ref John McKendrick in the aftermath of the 3-1 defeat to the league leaders, saying the whistler “one hundred per cent” cost Falkirk a draw. That has seen the SFA complaince officer respond with the offer of a one match suspension to Maybury for offensive, abusing and insulting language which the player-coach has accepted. Houston has been cited for comments made on the club’s in-house TV station Falkirk TV where he ‘criticised the decisions and performance of the Match Officials in such a way as to indicate bias and incompetence on their part, and which also impinged upon their character.’ He is scheduled to appear at Hampden on Thursday, October 29 for a hearing, but has until next Tuesday to respond. "

The board have already stated that there is enough cash to see the club through to the end of the season. That has not stopped the usual claims of impending bankruptcy from those who have even less of a clue about our finances than we do. I think you got it right mate. It is simply wishful thinking.

Houston has previous when it comes to refereeing decisions at Ibrox. He was in the papers whining for a week when he was Dundee Utd manager too. I watched the tackle on tv last night and thought exactly as I did when I saw it at the match. It was a free kick.

Arsenal are a side I've always admired. Having replied to the Advocaat post I should make it clear that I don't really have anything against the Dutch. But Van Gaal is another guy I just can't stand the sight of. He has one of these faces just made for slapping.

Thanks for that bruno. That's what happens when I don't take the time to gather the full story. I would post an embarrassed smiley but don't know how to.

Although I don't like to see a man lose his job I must admit Advocaat being handed his P45 does not raise one drop of pity from me. He is a man I just could never take to. Even when he was our manager.

" JOHN Gilligan, the Rangers director, last night stressed the Ibrox club is “striving” for a listing on the ISDX Stock Exchange and still intends to raise money at a share issue in future. However, Gilligan admitted their efforts had been “hamstrung” by other events in the last few months – including Charles Green’s bid to get them to pay the legal costs at his forthcoming criminal trial. Rangers were de-listed from the AIM Stock Exchange back in April after being unable to secure a nominated advisor to replace WH Ireland who resigned the day before the EGM the previous month. Dave King, the major shareholder and chairman, and Paul Murray, the director, have both been passed as “fit and proper” by the Court of Session and the SFA since then. And in July the Championship club appointed Peterhouse Corporate Finance in a move which was seen as significant in their goal of achieving a listing on the ISDX market. But Green, the English businessman who led the takeover of Rangers in 2012 and who has been charged with fraud and conspiracy, has taken legal action to compel the club to pay his costs . King has stressed the bid will be "strongly resisted". Gilligan, the former manager director of Tennent Caledonian Breweries, admitted the club board was facing constant unforeseen challenges in its efforts to restore off-field stability. Asked if the club still planned to hold a share issue at the Rangers Supporters Trust AGM at Ibrox last night, he said: “The answer in the long term is yes. “You know the story with the listing. Until we are listed, we can’t do the share issue. We are striving to get the listing. In the longer term that is exactly where we want to be. “What makes it really difficult is, because of the Police Scotland investigation, there are other things that are coming into play here which certainly I didn’t see them coming anyway. “Not the least of which is when you are handed a piece of paper which says the former chief executive (Green) has a contract which he says means we have to pay his legal fees. Nothing is very simple." Gilligan added: “But in the medium to longer term we intend to raise capital that way, there is no question about that. You are challenged all the time. We have got lots of challenges. And we take them all on. We are working hard. “The listing is important for us. We are still striving for it. The share issue is important to us. We are a wee bit hamstrung in the last few months on it, but we’re still working towards it. I feel confident. This club can’t survive in the next 10 years without supporters’ input.” Meanwhile, Gilligan has confirmed Rangers could consider renaming Murray Park – the club training ground which is currently named after former owner Sir David Murray – at some stage in the future. He said: There are a number of plans to look at the academy at Auchenhowie and try and get the proper message over of what it is all about.” Elsewhere, Gordon Dinnie, the Rangers Supporters Trust chairman, revealed that liquidators BDO had confirmed to the organisation that it would be possible to transfer the assets back into the control of the oldco in the future. Dinnie said: “We asked: ‘Would it be possible to resurrect oldco?’ The answer we got was: ‘Yes, it would be very difficult because there is too much going on legally elsewhere at the moment, but come back to us’. The advice we have had is it is doable.” "

Was this not freely available before the court stuff all started ? If it was there is no contempt risk.

I am in the same position. Babysitting sees me staying at home tonight.

The 5-1 game is the one I was on about . Thanks mate. I got it wrong in that I thought it took place just before the Scottish cup final. Looking at the link below I see the cup final replay was played in April so maybe I wasn't so far wrong. I know that after the 5-1 game we switched Kai and Davie Provan because of the mauling Hughes had given Kai. He did the same to Provan in the 0-0 final so Kai got switched back to his normal position. One thing that amazes me about Kai's goal is how it is usually quoted as being anything from 25 to 35 yards out. I believed that when he scored too. However, he actually struck the ball from inside the 18 yard box. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQaRPc5GKc

It is perfectly viable that my own memory is at fault here bear but my memory tells me we lost 5-1, I think Davy Wilson scored for us, maybe even the first goal in the match. It was a very dark misty, foggy evening. Maybe a week later we drew with them in the Scottish cup final and the replay followed with Kai scoring the winner. Honestly I wouldn't know how to search for those games and the only alternative I could put forward is the 5-1 was a league match. Maybe it is senility setting in mate but my memory also has Willie Henderson narating that timeline in his Playing For Rangers book many moons ago. Meanwhile I'm away to change my adult pampers.

Unfortunately bear, back in those days being discussed only the league winners qualified for the Euro cup. I attended the game mentioned earlier when Kai scored the winner. It came in a replay following a draw and a very short while after we had taken a thrashing in the Glasgow cup final. We had a very good team but were second best. That is why we celebrated Kai's winner so much.

In my opinion it will only happen when the tv money going to English football sinks to the level up here, and I just don't see that happening. Then there is the additional obstacle of getting past needing the SFA's permission to have English clubs playing in Scotland on a Saturday when Scottish league matches are taking place. It certainly won't happen in my lifetime.

Yes mate. I remember the subject being brought up at AGMs. On a side note I also remember the "Oh FFS!!! " that used to be murmered around me when the enquiries were made. There is no way the issue can be skirted around now and I certainly hope our new crew attend to it soon.

To be fair FS, the current board are hardly in the door two minutes. The previous scoundrels and wastrels were hardly likely to spend any money on maintaining standards within the stadium.

As the poster after you says craig, that is a matter for the club to take care of. If it comes to a straight choice of either the fans pay for the work to be done or we do not get to play in Europe then I would suggest we have the wrong board in place. As previously said I do not object to paying extra on my season ticket costs but will certainly baulk if I am told that either I and the rest of the support pay for it or there will be no European football at Ibrox.

Everywhere else is downhill from there my friend.

At the risk of criticism being a newbie, no. Not just yet. The club will see various folk who had previous connections being dragged through a criminal court and no doubt the subject of subsequent civil actions too. Until most of those are over and we know for definite exactly what position we are in I would say hang on. Currently struggling to support and manouver around town a family member who is temporarily disabled I can fully understand why some fans would want the matter addressed urgently. But not right now. Should the club wish to add a few quid onto the cost of my season ticket in the future I would be only to happy to pay.

For any bear who missed the programme and wishes to see it, it is being repeated on BBC Alba tonight [Tuesday] at 11pm.

I would tend to agree with you but suspect that given all the hoo-hah following the St Johnstone game with doomsayers appearing all over the place our manager has decided it is probably easier for everybodys blood pressure to leave nothing to chance. I'm against Friday matches but would far rather have that than a Tuesday .

This part here, " D&F UK seemed set up solely for this purpose. That's why D&P proper ran away as soon as they could. " I am certain that I read elsewhere recently that Duff & Phelps operate under a kind of franchise scheme where each individual part is responsible solely for their own operations. How accurate that is I wouldn't like to guess.