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Wonder who he signed the castle over too .......

The mortgage company took it over a good while ago mate. Yet another crowd who didn't get paid.

They couldn't stop the SOS (marches i was on) from parading from the Copland rear to the front doors in Edmiston Drive. So i can't see them stopping (with a supporters partisan board) them from protesting outside the Megastore?

I was with the SOS march too. There were other protests where fans were moved on. But you misunderstand what I was on about. Partisan board or not I am almost certain there will be clauses in the retail contract allowing penalties against the club if they were seen to be acting against the interest of retail sales. Permitting a blockage of a retail outlet would seem to me to be doing exactly that.

How difficult could it be for the SOS to organise on match days, a human Bear barrier outside the Megastore, asking fellow Bears to boycott the store?

The store stands on land owned by the club. There have been previous instances of police and stewards on instruction of the club being used to move fans out of the area on to public land.

I see the Belfast Telegraph have paid him for a right of reply article.

As a further update, the RST have been given a right of reply in the paper following McDiddys right of reply which true to form was another load of lies and bile.

Don't think that makes anything any clearer at all.

In fairness to King he obviously knows that the fans are expecting clarity. He's gagged from commenting on the contract details so, in my opinion is obliquely letting us know that matters are being looked at, that SD aren't playing ball, are farting around saying give us our 5 million now and we'll keep our retail cut as well, but King is hinting that these guys may well be held to account in the future. It isn't much but is better than radio silence.

The various fan groups have all done their best in their own way, sometimes as we know causing disagreement between themselves. In my opinion right now is the time for one powerful body to act on behalf of all our support. Unfortunately that is going to be easier said than done. Past experience proves that distributing chairs around the top table will bring its own problems. But it has to be done. I'd go further and propose that no Rangers directors should be at that table. Yes they should be available to meet our reps on a regular basis but it should be made clear that the new body is acting on behalf of the fans who want to support the club and not as a group to be towed around in whatever direction the clubs board think they should be pulled. "Accountability from the club" should be the premier demand of the fans group. If that happens I have no doubt ordinary fans will continue to dig deep.

We old codgers remember the 1964 final better than 1963 because in Dundee there was a high quality opposition which made for a better match. I remember the goals like yesterday. Kenny Cameron's was a screamer.

We had the team I grew up with as a kid and Dundee had an excellent side too. I think I recall our 2nd or 3rd goal being scored from more or less the bye line.

Apparently the 3 bears have said if necessary they will cover Green's costs. Also that Dave King is in town this week . Don't know if it's true

I found this elsewhere ; " DAVE King and the majority shareholders at Rangers have agreed on a plan to pay for Charles Green’s legal costs - should they be ordered to do so by the court.

The former chief executive is facing charges of fraud from his time at the Glasgow giants. He will stand accused with five others, including ex-owner Craig Whyte.

Green’s legal team will argue the club are liable for the costs, thought to be around £1.5million, at a two day hearing beginning on November 12. "

Thats the guy CS Forrest was a rocket he ran the guts out Billy McNeil lol..

For a few seasons back in the sixties every time you saw a photo of a Celtic goalkeeper Jim Forrest was standing in front of him with his arms raised and the ball in the back of the net.

" It’s actually gone all a little too quiet because there are some hugely significant questions - most of them money related - which remain unanswered and King’s low profile, long distance leadership has, in fact, created an information vacuum. And into this vacuum all manner of malicious and ill informed gossip is slowly being poured. "

Yes Keith. That's correct. It would seem that you yourself are more than happy to add to that gossip. You also did yourself no favours by addressing and answering your own questions. The club are in capable hands and the directors will ensure there is ten pence for the meter. The board will not be raising extra funds until the high court circus is over. Which begs the question, why bother Keith ? Why add more wind to the sails of Phil Whatshisname and the bile he spews ? A complete waste of ink.

Today is the anniversary of the start of Derek Johnstone's rangers career it was way back on this day in 1970 that big DJ became a rangers legend when the 16 year old out jumped McNeil and Craig to bullet a header past Williams from a Willie Johnston cross to win the league cup final. It was my first cup final....do you remember yours??

1963 Scottish cup final.

Pointless comparisons with the 60's and 70's. It's a different game now.

I think our game against Livi sums up exactly what's wrong with our game and why we can't compete on a European or World stage

Completely correct Colin. I watched and played in the 60's. The game has been totally transformed since those days - imo for the worse. I see players now who on a regular basis should be carrying Equity cards. So many rules have been introduced banning physical contact that it has become so easy for cheats to gain advantages. I am not proposing going back to the "mans game" we used to have, I'm saying that if the authorities want to ruin a physical sport by bringing in rules against foul play they should robustly enforce those laws and also retrospectively punish those who cheat by diving. Players who raise their arms to claim corners or throw-ins when a blind man could see they are attempting to gain an advantage by cheating should also be punished. It's nothing more than sleekit behaviour and I can't stand that.

Bell has to be one of the if not the worst Rangers keeper I've seen, allied to the fact that he seems to be made of glass the sooner he departs the better. Five months after the event I still haven't worked out just exactly what the f*&k he was trying to do when helping the ball into his own net. "

 

 

 

I was on holiday and ended up getting thrown out of a Spanish pub while watching that shambles on tv.

Through balls from deep....Barry Ferguson was good at that

Unfortunately Colin most teams now seem content to sit with 10 men across their own goal. Finding the space to thread a ball through is becoming more difficult for our players.

I don't have any confidence at all in Bell. For his performance at the end of last season alone I don't think he deserves another match. The least said about Templeton the better imo.

A player like Weiss would go a long way to unlocking teams imo.

I see the Belfast Telegraph have paid him for a right of reply article.

According to this zoomer we should be hoping for the opposite (WARNING: tim blog, you'll need a strong stomach):

 

http://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/sevco-face-being-gavelled-out-of-existence/

Another example of a deluded halfwit who feeds on rumour and conjecture from other doppelgangers who have no real interest in football. Not one of them could find a stadium using a sat-nav. It is hatred, pure and simple. You would think that after Phil Whatshisnametoday made his monumental mistakes they would learn. I have a feeling they won't.

I was switching through the tv channels a couple of nights ago and saw McAvennie being interviewed on this very subject. The programme was something about celebrities seven major photographs. His had one of McNeil with his arm around his shoulder after the sending off. His main standpoint was that the courts should never have got involved.

Of course, one doesn't want to know BDO's bill.

No doubt it will be astronomical. However I think they will have stopped some time ago as much of the investigations will have been deemed to be sub judice and left to the police and crown office. I'd think that BDO won't be doing anything until the criminal proceedings are completed.

my guess is the oldco is about to get very cash rich.

Which may be what King was alluding to a few weeks ago.

continued ----------- " Prosecutors claim that between January 1 2010 and February 16 2012, at various locations in Scotland, England, France and Monaco, Whyte, Withey, Grier, Whitehouse and Clark indulged in a conspiracy.

It is alleged that they conspired to “acquire and obtain by fraud a majority and controlling stake in the shareholding of Rangers.”

Prosecutors claim that they acted illegally in their dealings with ticket company Ticketus over a deal regarding the sales of Rangers season tickets.

It is claimed they obtained £28,262,094 from Ticketus and Merchant illegally and that they then used the money to persuade Rangers that they could afford to take the club over.

Prosecutors allege that they were then able to acquire “85.3 per cent of the issued capital of the club for £1 by fraud and did thus obtain a majority and controlling stake” in the shareholding of the club.

The second charge concerns the conduct of Mr Whyte and Mr Withey and a company called Wavetower Limited. It is with regard to a debt owed by Rangers to the Bank of Scotland plc.

Prosecutors allege that they “unlawfully” gave the club “financial assistance” by causing Rangers to enter into a “ticket purchase agreement” with Ticketus.

It is claimed that this was done for “the sole or main purpose of facilitating the acquisition of the club by providing finance which was lent by the Club to Wavetower Limited which in turn allowed Wavetower Ltd to repay the club’s debt to the Bank of Scotland PLC.”

Prosecutors claim that this contravened the Companies Act 2006.

SFA

The third charge alleges that on May 20 2011 at the Hampden Park premises of the SFA, Mr Whyte concealed the fact that he had been a disqualified company director.

It is claimed that he did this to satisfy the SFA that he was a “fit and proper” person and that he could act as director at Rangers football club. It is claimed that Mr Whyte acted fradulently.

The fourth charge alleges that between December 13 2010 and January 31 2012, at Ibrox stadium and various locations in Scotland, England and continental Europe, Whyte, Withey, Grier, Whitehouse and Clark also acted illegally again.

It is claimed that on these dates, they “did agree to do something that you knew or suspected or ought to reasonably to have known or suspected would enable or further the commission of serious organised crime.”

Prosecutors allege that they agreed to participate in a conspiracy which was to “acquire and obtain by fraud a majority and controlling stake in the shareholding of the Rangers Football Club plc through Waytower Limited aforesaid.”

Prosecutors claim this contravenes section 28 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010.

The fifth charge alleges that on July 16 2012 at the premises of Duff & Phelps and at various locations in Scotland and England, Mr Whitehouse, Mr Clark and Mr Grier, attempted to pervert the course of justice.

Prosecutors claim that this happened after being requested by Court of Session judge Lord Hodge to provide a report to him following an allegation of conflict involving Duff and Phelps. The company were appointed administrators to Rangers.

The Crown claims that in the report, the claim is made that “prior to the acquisition of Rangers on May 6 2011, Duff and Phelps were never made aware of the terms surrounding the financing of the transaction through Ticketus.”

It is claimed that they knew this statement was false and that Whitehouse, Clark, and Grier were aware of the terms surrounding the financing of the transaction through Ticketus.

Prosecutors claim that they did this “to avoid detection, arrest and prosecution in respect of the crime libelled in charge 1 hereof and with intent to pervert the course of justice.”

The sixth charge alleges that between February 1 2012 and June 14 2012, at various locations in Scotland, Whyte, Whitehouse, Clark and Green conspired together to acquire through the administration of Rangers, “de facto control and ownership of the business and assets of the club.”

The seventh charge alleges that between February 1 2012 and and December 31 2012 at Ibrox and other locations throughout Europe, Whyte, Whitehouse, Clark and Green acted illegally.

It is alleged that they did “agree to do something that you knew or suspected or ought reasonably to have known or suspected would enable or further the commission of serious organised crime.”

Prosecutors claim they conspired to acquire Rangers “for a sum considerably below the market value.”

The eighth charge alleges that between March 1 2012 and December 30 2013, at Ibrox, Green obtained “material benefit and a quantity of shares and money by fraud.”

" FORMER Rangers bosses Craig Whyte and Charles Green have appeared in the high court charged with participating in a major fraud.

Mr Whyte,44, Mr Green, 62, appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh on Friday alongside David Grier,50, David Whitehouse,50, and Paul Clark,51.

Prosecutors allege that the five men joined Gary Withey,51, to embark on a course of criminal conduct during their time at the Ibrox club.

The businessmen came to prominence following Sir David Murray’s decision to sell Rangers in May 2011.

The Crown claims that in the months before and after the takeover, Mr Whyte, Mr Withey, Mr Grier, Mr Whitehouse and Mr Clark carried out a fraudulent scheme.

Lawyers claim they obtained a total £28,262,094 from ticket company Ticketus and a business called Merchant Turnaround PLC.

They also claim that Whyte, Whitehouse, Clark and Green conspired with each other to break the law following the administration of Rangers in 2012.

It is claimed they took part in a scheme to acquire the club for a sum less than its true market value.

Now prosecutors have begun the process to bring the six men to trial. The Crown were also hoping to bring another man - Imran Ahmad,44, -to trial.

However, for reasons which cannot be disclosed, Crown Office lawyers have temporarily stopped proceedings against Mr Ahmad, an ex-club director.

Now, the case will next call for another procedural hearing later this year. "

Strapon decides to stay on. The SFA reward him with a 2 year contract. I suppose that's a lot easier for them than doing what they are supposed to do and hunt down somebody who might actually be up to the job.

Fraud doesn't usually attract long jail sentences

The High court has the power to hand a life sentence for fraud in Scotland . Point taken though, that isn't what usually happens. Having said that, this is a very high profile case involving not only alleged fraudsters but company administrators and solicitors.