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Oh, and Scotlands REAL unofficial national anthem is as fast and as catchy as anyones.... Scotland The Brave pishes over that Corries dirge folk song any day of the week... Hark when the night is falling Hear! Hear the pipes are calling, Loudly and proudly calling, Down thro' the glen. There where the hills are sleeping, Now feel the blood a-leaping, High as the spirits of the old Highland men. Towering in gallant fame, Scotland my mountain hame, High may your proud standards gloriously wave, Land of my high endeavour, Land of the shining river, Land of my heart for ever, Scotland the brave. High in the misty Highlands, Out by the purple islands, Brave are the hearts that beat Beneath Scottish skies. Wild are the winds to meet you, Staunch are the friends that greet you, Kind as the love that shines from fair maiden's eyes. Towering in gallant fame, Scotland my mountain hame, High may your proud standards gloriously wave, Land of my high endeavour, Land of the shining river, Land of my heart for ever, Scotland the brave. Far off in sunlit places, Sad are the Scottish faces, Yearning to feel the kiss Of sweet Scottish rain. Where tropic skies are beaming, Love sets the heart a-dreaming, Longing and dreaming for the homeland again. Towering in gallant fame, Scotland my mountain hame, High may your proud standards gloriously wave, Land of my high endeavour, Land of the shining river, Land of my heart for ever, Scotland the brave Cammy F - Anti-Corries Loyal RSC

BTW, Scotland & England have the SAME national anthem.... Cammy F - God Save The Queen Loyal RSC

The Rangers / Chelsea connection dates back to charity games played for the victims / survivours of the Bradford City fire. We played Chelsea home and away and there was no segregation at these games - fans happily stood shoulder to shoulder. In fact, when Rangers won the league under Souness, Chelsea took out a half page congratulations advert in the Rangers news This was 'kind off' hijacked when the Chelsea and Rangers casuals came together but plenty of decent Rangers and Chelsea fans still have a connection. Cammy F

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Is it just me or does MON appear to be drunk? 'Talking' rather loudly, just described the Ghanians as 'white men' and tottering on the edge of his seat... Cammy F

To the tune of Land Of Hope & Glory ; We will follow Rangers over land and sea We will follow Rangers on to victory Cammy F

Someone else who thinks he knows French based players better than PLG.... Its amazing that we are all not top class football managers with our 'knowledge' isn't it... Cammy F

Thats fine, but don't expect me to - and don't claim or think that you are more Scottish due to your anti-english attitude. Cammy F

Gribz you are missing the point - the Aussies that are dressed up will think NO LESS of the Aussies that aren't..... A majority of the TA think that those who don't sing 'If You Hate The Fuckin' English', 'We Hate Jimmy Hill' etc are English Wannabes... After the recent Scotland v USA friendly myself and MrsC were returning from Glasgow on a train filled with TA. I was verbally abused for not joining in these racist and homophobic songs and called an orange bastard for wearing a poppy and asking people to cease these songs (as there were English passengers who were getting embarrassed by the singing). On the same train, there were grown MEN flashing their bits to woman and children and others puking all over the train. I make no apologies for saying that these arseholes are nothing but an embarressment to Scotland and they DO NOT represent me or my SCOTTISHNESS. Also, I stopped following Scotland after being SPAT on at a Scotland friendly in Aberdeen for the crime of wearing a Rangers pin badge. The heros that spat on me also called me an orange wanker and informed me that if I didn't leave Pittodrie they would 'fuckin kill me'.... So in short, the TA do not display a Scottishness that I want to be associated with. Cammy F

You've taken that too far.,..... Cammy F

This is a point that bothers me - not getting at you or your wife Mike, but we have to be carefull on where we draw the line between traditions and sectarianism. Now, some are quite clear (like FTP etc) but others aren't so black and white. Cammy F

That is my point exactly - this pathetic 'little scotlander' attitude where we measure our Scottishness on how much we hate England. Or measure our Scottishness on if we follow Scotland wearing kilts, see you jimmy hats and Jimmy Hill Is A Poof t-shirts. This is where it gets Craptic-esque as they hate us more than they love Craptic.... Cammy F

Oh I want them to lose every game they play but I wouldn't post on forums cheering on DUFC, Falkirk, Hearts etc. I wouldn't go out and buy the tops of every SPL club and wear them whenever Craptic were playing them. Firstly tho, I want Rangers to win EVERY GAME - that is my primary concern. Cammy F

We have so many old songs that could easily be updated, especially regarding players - instead of the boring 'these only one (insert name here)' we could sing things like - 'He's Blue, He's White, He's fuckin dynamite Chrissy Burke' 'Boyb, Boyd, Krissy,Krissy Boyd, he gets the ball and scores a goal Krissy Krissy Boyd' 'Super Dado, Super Dado' We should also be promoting Rangers songs like The Blue Sea Of Ibrox, Follow Follow (the correct version), The Famous Glasgow Rangers, Wolvetherhampton Town, Rangers Over Here, Rally Round The Flag, Simply The Best, The Blue Flag, It's Rangers For Me, Have You Seen The Glasgow Rangers..... The real trouble that we have is that apart from TBO (and associated groups in other stands) nobody sings at Ibrox apart for OF games and European ties. And when they do sing, they only appear to sing The Billy Boys, The Sash and No Surrender.... Cammy F

Spik3d - I think we need to be careful here tho. Although the Orange Order has been linked with Rangers, the OO AREN'T bigoted and their pledge dictates that we should be tolerant of other religions and cultures. Singing FUCK THE POPE and Fenian Blood is being tolerant of other religions and cultures no matter what we think of them. Our heritage has always been pro-Rangers, pro-Church Of Scotland (and pro-OO at a puch) and pro-Union. It has never been anti-anything. This is where we have to change. For some reason, our pro-stances have become anti-stances and we need to revert back to being pro-Rangers especially. The world of football has moved on, it isn't the working mans game now - it is a global market in a very PC world and we need to adapt or face having no club to support. Lets get back to supporting the team then maybe we can introduce pro-Unionist songs etc. Cammy F

Gribz - So do you then support every team in the SPL apart from Craptic then? Cammy F

Can't agree with that Calscot - Ibrox has hosted many an Orange Order and Church gatherings over the years. However, this is been diluted over the years as church membership has hit an all time low. Another culturial viewpoint is that Rangers did and to some degree still do have a Conservitive and Unionist heritage - this was backed up in the Rangers Monthly where historians found documents detailing the boards support of Conservitives and Unionists. As for the signing policy this is also a myth started by our enemies. Rangers had many many Catholics playing for us over the years and in the very eraly years it was common for players to move from Craptic to Rangers and vice versa. Would you say Craptic had an Catholic heritage or any anti-protestant one? Until the 1990's Craptic had not one non-Catholic director and refused to promote Danny McGrain, Jock Stein etc due to their religion. In fact, one of the Lisbon Lions claimed that his nickname, when not playing to his best was simply Orange Bastard...... It is fair to say that we once did have a Presbyterian heritage but would agree that this is no longer the case Cammy F

Gribz, are you Scottish or do you have a split nationality? Paraguay, Sweden T&T and everyone who plays England? Tell me, do you support Hearts, Dundee United, Killie etc when they play Craptic? This debate really gets to me - I am Scottish an proud of that fact but don't express this in an anti-English way. However, in doing so, some people claim that I am not Scottish and an English wannbe. The only time I want England (Wales and NI) to get beaten is when they are playing Scotland. Cammy F

Yip that indeed is correct. Went to the Falkirk store on Saturday and got a very helpfull guy who has ordered me a sponserless shirt and it'll be delivered this week Cammy F

Yip, on that form Englands won't get anywhere in the WC - they will have to improve dramactically. In saying that, all you want from your opening game is 3 points and they got that without much problem TBH and were helped by Sweden failing to overcome 10 man T&T Cammy F

Racist bigot, I'm reporting you to UEFA Cammy F - One Union, One Crown Loyal RSC

Am I the only one that is happy that Rangers didn't apply for this game? I certainly don't want Rangers haters (SFA and sections of the TA) using OUR 5-star satdium. As for The Towers, it isn't even a 4-star stadium according to UEFA's currently listings Cammy F

But Calscot, the hymns we would be singing are Christian hymns and that would be offensive to the non-Christians in Scotland... UEFA would ban Onward Christian Soldiers (marching as to war) as it depicts ancient battles (which outdate The Boyne) and celebrate Christian slaugthers of non-Christians Cammy F

Frankie, what we need now is leadership from the above mentioned fan groups and more importantly the club. In banning the Billy Boys (and FTPing) Ranger should now issue a second statement, signed by TBO and RST etc saying that whilst these songs are banned, we will no longer accept people attacking our heritage - by that I mean Rangers saying that no other songs or flags will be banned. David Murray has allowed this to happen as he has copntinually allowed the press to stick the boot into us. Even the dead aren't safe from the parasites in the media. David Murray MUST now state this this is the line in the sand and that any journalist that wrongly slates Rangers, prints half-truths and lies will be punished. What us the fans need to do is unite - as our enemies want us divided. But IMO its RFC and the fans groups that need to lead and unite us, they have the 'membership' and the outlets to be the driving force along with the club. Cammy F

Agreed - I voted change the lyrics Cammy F