CammyF

As we approach the new season, I have decided to take a different approach from Frankie who (rightly) gave you have analysis of our team that we expect to wrestle our title back from the inhabitants of Torbett Towers. Just as important as the squads ââ?¬Ë?on-fieldââ?¬â?¢ performances this season, is ââ?¬Ë?off-fieldââ?¬â?¢ performance. And, I am not just talking about the abysmal atmosphere at Ibrox. We are well and truly in UEFAââ?¬â?¢s sights and they have plenty of allies waiting for our first slip-up so they can run back to UEFA and point the finger at us ââ?¬Ë?big, bad bigoted Hunsââ?¬â?¢. Make no mistake, blind refusal to listen to UEFA (and Murray and supporters representatives) is no longer an option. If we donââ?¬â?¢t heed this warning, Rangers Football Club will suffer accordingly. Some will say that bowing to UEFA is a sign of weakness, that it is the first step to losing all of our songs and that those who support axing of The Billy Boys are ââ?¬Ë?sell-outsââ?¬â?¢, ââ?¬Ë?PC-brigadeââ?¬â?¢ etc. Given David Murrayââ?¬â?¢s refusal to back us even once, over the last decade, has led to us being unable to defend ourselves from this UEFA decision. In my opinion, we have no option but to comply with the UEFA directive as going against it is only going to lead to Rangers being deducted points, relegated, thrown out of Europe etc, and I donââ?¬â?¢t think that there is one Rangers fan that really wants to see that happen. The argument that ââ?¬Ë?fenianââ?¬â?¢ isnââ?¬â?¢t directed at Catholics and Craptic fans lost any credibility when sections of our fan-base started to sing the cringe-worthy ââ?¬Ë?You Are A Fenianââ?¬â?¢. There is no denying that sections of our fans think / believe that a Fenian is a Catholic or a Craptic fan. Cutting to the chase, there are going to be two distinct camps amongst the support this year ââ?¬â?? those who will refrain from singing The Billy Boys and those who will continue to sing this song as an act of defiance. Both will claim that they are right, both will see the other section as ââ?¬Ë?the enemy withinââ?¬â?¢. This is concerning, as is the fact that there has been no leadership from the club (although this was promised). So folks, Iââ?¬â?¢d like to appeal for calm from both sides over this issue and I urge the club (we only have over a week to our first home game) to release a statement that details what songs are considered ââ?¬Ë?singableââ?¬â?¢ and which arenââ?¬â?¢t. They must also clearly outline the severity of any punishment that we are likely to receive from UEFA for continued singing of The Billy Boysââ?¬Â¦. So, what ââ?¬Ë?campââ?¬â?¢ am I in? Iââ?¬â?¢m in the ââ?¬Ë?bin it for the good of Rangers Football Clubââ?¬â?¢ camp but can understand why people donââ?¬â?¢t want to give an inch over this song. At a time where Italian clubs are getting reduced sentences from match fixing, we are getting hammered from a ââ?¬Ë?songââ?¬â?¢. Apart from that issue, lets get right behind PLG and the squad and lets make ourselves the 12th man. I remember not so long ago that Ibrox was one of the most intimidating stadium in the world ââ?¬â?? we are the only people that can make this happen again. Cammy F

Bring your objections and a list of your recommended songs to the attention of Rangers - its the only way you'll get them changed I don't mind the RB and GSTQ tunes (but I can't remember GSTQ being played over the tannoy tho) and it was great to hear the French NA on Saturday. As I said, this is a bit of a heated topic as you can't please all of the people all of the time - its getting the right mix - if more people lobby the club, maybe we'll get the mix right. Cammy F

Thing is tho Jim, at least the Club Deck Loyal are trying to improve the atmosphere at the game - if you don't like their choice of tunes, why not try and lobby Rangers (as the CDL have) and get what you think will improve the atmosphere on matchdays played..... What is it they say, you can't please all of the people all of the time.... Cammy F

Nice work gersfem and Del (for getting the banner out). Hopefully we'll have photos of the new banner soon.... Some others of the orignal banner Cammy F

Proudly sang at the end of every home match by TBO 'The Queen' is traditionally sung at the end of events....! Cammy F

About bloody time - a huge pat of the back to those who have worked so hard to get this song played. Cammy F

What a radical way to improve the atmosphere at Ibrox Cammy F

I don't think it is jealousy - I know life-long Chelsea fans who don't particularly like some of the newer Chelsea fans (just like some traditional Man U fans don't like the prawn-sandwitch brigade). As someone who has Chelsea sympathies, I can see where people are coming from - they are rapidly becoming the new Man U - hated by most and supported (in part) by fans who'll jump to the next big successful club. Cammy F

Arsenal didn't have a safety certificate for the 'full stadium' - so it was true, the game was a sell out as they had sold all the tickets for the parts of the ground that were open. This happens a lot with new, modern grounds. The safety inspectors will give the go-ahead for sections of the ground to be opened and others closed. Same thing happened for the extension to Old Trafford. Arsenal will have a safety certificate in place for the entire stadium in time for the new season. Have to say that from the little I saw last night, the stadium looked great and it was great to see, a real top-class footballer like Dennis Berkamp get a good send off. A truly woderfull players. Oh, and I wonder if Arsenal have 'decorated' their new stadium with certain symbols and portraits that wouldn't be out of place at Ibrox (like Highbury was). Rangers - Arsenal - A REAL CONNECTION. Cammy F

All the very best Marv- You Kept Believing and guess what, you were right..! He will always have a place in Rangers folklore. Cammy F - Big Marv Loyal RSC

or sometimes referred to as Have You Seen The Glasgow Rangers - a fantastic song that should be reintroduced at Ibrox ; http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DE1EC21D4E94AB35 Cammy F

Typical pre-season friendly to be honest that lost any edge it had when both teams started to make a number of subs early in the second half. Letizi looked commanding and had one very good save from a free-kick. His distribution seemed fair. Only concern is that after coming and collecting 2 corners / crosses early on, he stopped and it appeared to thro the defence into uncertainty. He resumed coming for and collecting again and look commanding again. Hutton is still a huge concern for the new season. He played very badly and appears to come very narrow when the play develops down his wing leaving open spaces down the side and in behind him. Smith has a solid game as we have come to expect from him. Svensson and R-Jod coped well with everything that they had to do and it'll take some time for them to develop an understanding and a partnership. Svensson looked and played like Amo to a certain degree - looked like he could make a mistake any minute! Clement, Sionko, Adam and Buffel had very decent games but IMO the standouts were Prso and Hemdami. N'Daiyi and Novo had decent games when they were introduced and N'Daiyi looks to have pace, strength and ability. Cammy F

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Jim Divine is anything but a 'fair-minded' Tim - but fare play to him on this ocassion. Cammy F

Labour MP's (and Tims to boot) stick up for Rangers and the fans - http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/66323-print.shtml Cammy F

Still we have plenty of criticsism, but no alternantives. Surely we aren't happy at the current public image of our club? Surely we all have ideas of how this can be changed? If not, frankly, we deserve everything we get. Cammy F

Anything m8 - what ever song you'd like to see played when the team comes out the tunnel. Cammy F

.... Rangers entering the field of play to? Me - The Blue Sea Of Ibrox. Cammy F

I actually got a chance to speak to him at length the following morning (long story, but boy was I gald!) and he seemed a very down to earth guy and as he was alone at the time, he took time to talk to me about life at Rangers and Everton - guy was gutted at what had happened to him at Rangers but he still held a great love for the club. I said to him that it was a shame that he couldn't even enjoy a quiet night out with his wife at an 'exclusive' retreat without getting hassle. He agreed and said yhou just had to accept it as part of the package of being a footballer. Anyway, I'll never forget and will always look back with pride and having had the opportunity to talk to him. Cammy F

Good move for Wolves, the guy has a decent record of getting clubs promoted. Hopefully, for their sake, they'll sack him if / when he gets them promoted tho! Cammy F

Aye, but he continued to get into bother when with Rangers. I actually felt sorry for DF as I witnessed fist hand what shit the guy had to put up with. We were on a company night out to Gleneagles (I know!) and DF was staying at the hotel with his wife (John Parrots sister). DF was at Everton when this happened. During the evening, the lad never got a minutes peace, with people asking him for autographs, photos, to buy him a pint etc and it was obvious that the guy just wanted a quiet night with his missus. Anyway, as the night got on, and DF was getting drunk and drunker, a sill dint barged into him on the dancefloor and called him a dirty orange bastard. DF to his credit left the dancefloor with his wife and went back to their table. later, the same bint walked past the table and throw a drink over DF and his wife - DF exploded and drew his hand back as if to strike the bint - IMO this was what she was wanting so she could report him - but instead of hitting out, he just laughed in her face. The management thro out the bint... Cammy F

Pete, this is deviating away from the purpose of the thread - As a club, Rangers have strong presbyterian roots, this can not be denied. We have held Orange Order and Boys Brigade conventions in our stadium, and IMO that is NOTHING to be ashamed off. If you re-read my oringinal post, I said that we can hold these traditions as we move forward. There is nothing stopping us acknowledging these traditions whilst becoming the all-inclusive club that we are. These are not mutually exclusive, they can go hand-in-hand. What we need to do is educate those fans who use their supposed 'presbyterianism' as an excuse to 'hate' others and other peoples religion / believes etc. I don't think any Rangers fan can deny that we must do something to regain a 'positive' public image as we are wrongly being demonized. I put my arguements forward, they are far from perfect, but no one has put any alternate thoughts / process / actions etc. One thing we can't do is continue to sit back and do nothing. Cammy F

Acht well, thanks for picking up on one tiny point in the thread - I take it you agree with the rest tho.... Cammy F - Martin Luther Loyal RSC

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Saw a bit of that last night - Durie is in his team along with Joan Collins Cammy F