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Acht well, thanks for picking up on one tiny point in the thread - I take it you agree with the rest tho.... Cammy F - Martin Luther Loyal RSC

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Saw a bit of that last night - Durie is in his team along with Joan Collins Cammy F

Well I certainly do - its due to this public image and the mhedia that we are currently in UEFA's sites - not a place we really want to be - continue to ignore the press, stands will be closed, we will be deducted points, relegated, etc... Never mind we'll have a Millwall song to make us feel better... Cammy F

But for others it has - surely they have the right to express this link - it is not bigoted, it is not racist, it is not negative. Religion plays a small part in my life, but I chose to to tie it in with the football club I support, but I can see why others might. Anyway, we can agree to disagree on that point. Cammy F

Doesn't he, or hasn't he worked for Rangers (RTV)...?? Cammy F

This is the exact attitude we have to change - do we keep our mouths shut when journalists are claiming that we racially abused Mark Walters, or when they are joking about the Ibrox disaster, or writing lies about our players willing having their photos taken with terrorists? David Murray's and Rangers' dignified silence hasn't worked for the last decade, why do you think it is going to work now? The time for silence is over, it's time to take these lying fuckers to task. Can't agree - the RST manage to do it, so why can't an organisation the size of Rangers do it? We already have a PR Depertment that we shell out on for doing the square root of feck all.... Why is it irrelevant? It is part of who we are and where we have came from - its like saying that our Scottish identity is irrelevant.... Why should we have to? There is nothing sinister about our roots, our traditions and our history - why should we sacrifice them? We should be embracing them. Cammy F

Currently, we are being portrayed, and seen as the BNP, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda of football and have a huge job to turn this perceived image around. However, this is a direct consequence of Dodgy Daveââ?¬â?¢s continued refusal to publicly back us, the Rangers support. For years, many media outlets in this country have openly lied about the actions of Rangers fans. From the supposed riots in Sunderland and Bradford to us cutting our pitch to resemble a sash to the annual criticisms of our kit, sections of the mhedia have shown their agenda ââ?¬â?? to demonise Rangers Football Club and itââ?¬â?¢s supporters. Now, I could go on and on about things that have been printed in certain papers by certain journalists, but I am aware that the Amazon rain-forests are running out of tress and I donââ?¬â?¢t want this blamed on Rangers fansââ?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬Â¦. Anyway, itââ?¬â?¢s safe to say that we all know the main culprits and their many lies and innuendos. I have to interject here and discuss the UEFA decision and that by not challenging this, David Murray has given our enemies ammunition and by god are they using it to their advantage. The RST rightly said that only through education and not condemnation could we change attitudes, they are right, but it is a pity the media donââ?¬â?¢t see it this way. We are working to eradicate some of the songs and chants that are heard at Ibrox and elsewhere, and after the UEFA decision we were promised that the club would take the lead and inform us what we can sing and how they were going to promote and celebrate our proud history and tradition. Linfield Football Club have, through community work, education and PR positively created an inclusive club which still promotes and celebrates itââ?¬â?¢s loyalist roots. We could learn a thing or two from Linfield. In a recent Sunday rag, they told the journalist all of the above and came out with some good press. Meanwhile, David Murray sits in his office counting our cash whilst allowing everyone and their dog to have a go at us. The latest is the Daily Record and their take on why the Bolton friendly was cancelled. Now, as I have said previously, compare his ââ?¬Ë?dignified silenceââ?¬â?¢ to attacks on US to his fast, strong and legal attacks on anyone who dares question Mr Murray or his suntanned mukka Mr Bain. In all honesty, I am at the stage where I believe that Murrayââ?¬â?¢s malaise has spread to a majority of the support who either donââ?¬â?¢t care what is written about us, or worse, actually believe what is written about us. So, what can we do? That is the $64,000 question. Firstly, we have to openly admit and embrace our past ââ?¬â?? we are a football club who represent the Protestant traditions in Scotland and further afield. This is NOTHING to be ashamed off ââ?¬â?? it should be celebrated. However, we are an inclusive club who welcome fans / players / employees no matter their colour, creed or religion. Secondly, we have to convince our fans that by celebrating our Presbyterianism, this doesnââ?¬â?¢t mean disrespecting other religions. Thirdly, we have to do this publicly whilst fighting our corner in the media. That will require a PR Department that will rapidly respond to any inaccuracies that are published in the media. By doing this, we will show that we mean business and the journalists will be treated with respect, only if they treat us with respect and fairly ââ?¬â?? after all that is all we ask. Can this be achieved? Yes and easily. However, can it be achieved with David Murray at the helm? I seriously think not ââ?¬â?? this is going to get worse before it gets better unless Murray acts and acts swiftly ââ?¬â?? over to you Mr Chairman. Cammy F

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Aye with quotes from Labour MSP's, NBM, The Catholic Church, Bill Speckie, Shug Keevins, Gerry McNee, Jhoke McConnell, Billy Connelly, Jim (Wan)Ker, et al.... Cammy F

It gets better, the more you read about them - this is classic ; "We are a predominatly left-wing, pro-Republican, anti-fascist group.'' So much for - We are an all-inclusive group. And on their messageboards they are trying to drum up support for songs about the Ibrox disaster - They All Fell Down The Stairs (repeat) and If You Cannae Do The Tumble Your A Tim... Typical vermin. Cammy F

SKY Sports News running with this story this morning - Sebo to meet with the president of the club and demand a transfer Cammy F

If you remember last season, the Jungle Bhoys imploded over the anti-sectarian and racism banners that were unfurled at Parkhead in gte final OF game of the season. In their remaining home games, sections of TJB indulged in sectarian and racist chanting (I'd rather wear a turban than a sash - soon there will be protestants at all and various IRA ditties). Well, now parts of the Jungle Bhoys have set up a splinter group called, wait for, Bhoys From The Green Brigade (I kid you not). Here is their manifesto - it is fucking hilarious reading guys and gals ; "Out of the ashes of the Jungle Bhoys, comes the Green Brigade. I was involved in the JBs last season, but after Bannergate, I, along with many others, could never go back. So the 'splitters' decided to hold a meeting, where it was decided we'd go ahead with a new group. In recent seasons, there has been much debate about the atmosphere, or to be more accurate, the lack of atmosphere at Celtic games. To counter the perceived apathy amongst our support, a group named the Jungle Bhoys was formed. For various reasons, we do not feel that this group will be able to fulfill our aspirations and properly reflect the true nature of our support base. We are not set up in opposition to the aforementioned group and wish them every success in what they hope to achieve. We aim to offer an alternative to them. We are open to everyone who cares passionately about our great football club. We acknowledge and embrace the traditions of our support and hope to get some passion back into the stands. For some following Celtic is a hobby akin to going to the cinema or watching their favourite group. Their pernicuous influence has taken root and now it has become fashionable to come in late and leave early and spend the time in the stadium chatting to your mates via text messages. We do not intend to tell anyone how to support their team but if you are one of these people then our group is not for you. If, on the other hand, you still view going to the football as an experience to be savoured then you will find like minded people within our ranks. Here are a few bits of information about our group, as well as some of our aims. -The Green Brigade is an ultras group. We admire the way that fans in Europe support their team, and we would like to add some of that passion to our support. -We are an all-inclusive group. We will not discriminate against people because of their race, religion, political stance, etc, though nazi's/fascists are not, and will never be, welcome within our ranks. -We are not run by a committee. Every decision goes to a vote in which all members can have their say. -We believe Celtic's history is firmly rooted in Ireland, as well as Scotland. -We believe we should be allowed to sing about the struggle of the Irish people, without fear of ejection from the stadium. -We will not be dictated to by the PLC. -As we refuse to co-operate with the PLC in any way, our displays will be limited, predominantly, to away grounds. -We aim to support our team through song, whether we win, lose or draw. -We aim to add colour to Celtic Park, and whatever other stadium Celtic play in. -We aim to make going to watch Celtic fun again. If you want to help out in any way, whether it be hands-on, like helping out in the making of banners, setting up of displays, or helping with fundraising, donations, acquiring materials, then visit or messageboard at greenbrigade.proboards77.com We welcome any constructive criticism and ideas from our fellow fans, as "football without fans is nothing". Green Brigade" Boys Against Bigotry - tut, tut, tut... Cammy F

Jackson and The Retard are trying to dig themsevles out of a hole without losing 'face' - all they are doing is digging deeper - long may this continue. Ding, Ding, Round 2 - Over to the RST (which I am a proud memeber of now!) Cammy F

Pete, if Murray had kept Azure as 'part of Rangers' and allowed it to expand as it is currently doing - no reason not to - then that �£14M pounds profit would be ours. Azure manages to sell a few pies and hamburgers every other week, employ staff, managers, purchasers, accountants etc, and still rake in �£14M profit. Rangers have staff, managers, purchasers, accountants etc, that work over all 'businesses'..... Obviously it is, as Murray sold The Albion to his son for that sum and GCC sold the area around Parkhead, displacing residents etc for the same sum. Cammy F

Oh I know m8, but some of the solutions to our problems are so simple - surely a business man like Murray can't be so blind not to see this??? Cammy F

Very true, but we also need to get the attention of the majority of fans who have no problem with the media telling lies. In fact, there is a section of the Rangers fanbase who believe everything that has been printed about us. These fans need to be engaged and turned around ASAP as well us trying to get Murray and the board to act. It's a tough job, but one that needs to happy soon. Cammy F

But, in the long run, it WILL make him money. When the RST take the media to task, their reputation will grow, more people will join the RST and more will take part in the share / save scheme - win win situation for Rangers, Murray and the fans. Cammy F

Here is a novel idea - why not 'outsource' the PR to the RST? David Edgar and Stephen Smith have been excellent when they have appreared in the press. In fact, DE ripped Speirsy a new one live on air recently. This would ensure that Rangers fans were running the PR, would mean much needed income for the RST and we'd be safe in the knowledge that no journalist would be allowed to tell lies about is in print or on air. Cammy F

It requires the 'silent majority' of Rangers fans to wake up and see the untold damage this 'dignified silence' is doing to our reputation. Today, the RST scored a MAJOR victory for us by getting the real truth from GMP that made Jackson looking like the lying scumbag that he is. Imagine, given that the RST are a bunch of unpaid fans, how easy and powerful a Rangers PR Department could be - allied to the RST and the many fans who do contact media outlets etc (GMP confirmed that many RFC fans had called them today). We are the only ones that can get Murray to act, and we are the only ones that can get retractions from the press. However, we need to act and act together. Cammy f

A hibby just claiming that every time we play at Easter Road, 1000's of us are arrested...... Put in his place tho... Cammy F

What an opportunity for Mr Murray to get massive respect from us, the fans, by banning The Daily Record and its 'journalists' from Ibrox for the latest sensationalist and inacurate slur against Rangers FC and the fans. Will he take it, not whilst they still put money into his back pocket. Cammy F

Not evident tonight - praised Scottish supporters all evening - especially us, the Rangers fans. He said early in the show that GMP had showed favoritism to Craptic for hosting 20,000 of them in Manchester and calling this game off. He spoke of glowing reports from Derby, Ipswich, Fulhum, Newcastle, Manchester etc about how brilliant our travelling support is and how we 'make' a pre-season game / testimonial. He also hoped that this doesn't start a domino effect and that next season, we are made welcome in England - he then talked about our global support, backed up by calls from Scotland, England, Wales and NI. A brilliant piece of PR for us and all it contained was unbiased and truthful journalism. Cammy F

People from the Bolton area on Talksport (including a St Midden fan!) are claiming that teams like Bolton and Wigan get a very raw deal from GMP (in comparison with Man U and City) and aren't surprised that they can not cope with the travelling fans. In fact, most were astonished that the game was given the go-ahead originally. Cammy F

Mike Parry - this just isn't a regular club, this is a club that has worldwide support and interest Everyone we've spoken to who have played Rangers recently only have good things to say about them - Derby, Ipswich etc. ---------- Excelllent and truthful reporting - it'll never catch on Cammy F