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Exactly, something that I pointed out to them in my second reply...! Have also eamiled Lothian & Borders Police to complain of negelct of duty. There were no arrests at Swinecastle yesterday, yet 1000's of 'people' broke the law by glorifying terrorists (which is no ileagal in Scotland). Cammy F

What about fans, like me, who have stopped buying Rangers tops as a protest against David Murray and his money, money, money mantra at Rangers? Am I not allowed to wear any other tops then? Just fashion accessories? Personally, I have worn Barca, Sweden, Holland, GB rugby union, GB rugby league, Ulster rugby league, West Brom, Scotland etc tops / polo-shirts to Ibrox and it certainly hasn't 'watered down' my support for the team... Cammy F

Hopefully Steve, this is one group that will be focussed upon by our new PR gurus - I have numerous unaswered emails from them - they are now being shown up for the sham that they are, Legget ripped into them a few weeks ago, and I don't see it letting up. If I were you, I would send you original email and this reply to Rangers and ask them to send it on to the PR group (or send it to them directly) and let them deal with it. Or alterneatively, send this with your concerns to The RST thro their website..! The more pressure we apply, the quicker fraudsters like NBM get exposed. Cammy F

Aided and abetted by their lapdhogs in the media but did they really think the consequences of their actions through? We have been battered from pillar to post by UEFA and they unbiased sections of the mhedia recently, but after this weekends affairs, it appears that the worn is turning and the spotlight could be falling on those who instigated this whole investigation. Craptic were reported to the SFA for their fans singing in the last 2 games of last season and will inevitably be reported for their singing yesterday and possibly for their attacks on PLG (he is not the first Rangers employee to be physically attacked by the scum). Rangers were widely applauded after the DUFC game where no sectarian songs were sung and the atmosphere was superb. The Match Commander also confirmed that there were no arrests at the game, a statistic that means we are still the best behaved supporters in the UK with an average of only one arrest every 2 games. We have now employed a very effective PR firm who are believed to be compiling a dossier of biased, sensationalist and impartial reporting by the media and actions that could be deemed offensive and sectarian from other fans in Scotland and this will be presented at some point. Media outlets let The Daylate Rebel and The Scotsman are reporting Craptics vile songs (only The Gerald arenââ?¬â?¢t) and ââ?¬Ë?reportersââ?¬â?¢ like Keevins and Britney are under pressure from their bosses due to their bitterness and nastiness towards Rangers and us supporters. In fact, the RST could be taking further action against Keevins for misrepresenting them on Saturday and I have heard Britney could be looking for a new jobââ?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬Â¦ So Timmy thought that this was a great way to get at The Rangers, and it was, what they didnââ?¬â?¢t realise is that this would backfire and see them receive the same treatment, if not worse, then we would. Keep those eyes and ears peeled Bears and keep reporting them to the appropriate authorities. And as they like to tell us, ââ?¬Ë?Their Day Will Comeââ?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬â?¢ Cammy F

The late Cardinal Winning stated that anyone whom blessed themselves in such manner was prostituting their religion - never agreed with much of what that man had to say, but hard to argue with him on this matter. Cammy F

Another incident to be added to the GFITW© list of shame..... Add that to the vile and repugnent songs sung by the VAST MAJORITY of them at Tynecastle yesterday including the 'soon there will be Protestants at all' and 'we will be mastered by no Orange bastards'... However. I understand that their actions have been reported to the authorities both officially and unofficially. Cammy F

Also heard yesterday (and I think this was confirmed in leggets column today) that Rangers' new PR gurus are compling a dossier (sp) of biased journalism against Rangers and will publish this at an appropriate time..... They will also be monitoring, highlighting and reporting on other fans songs / chants etc Cammy F

A fantastic effort from the Rangers fans today, not 1 sectarian song or chant to be reported and it was great to hear that the Match Commander and the SPL adviser PRAISED Rangers fans and confirmed that NO sectarian singing took place. For those enemies who think that The Sash and Derry's Walls are sectarian, away and thro sh1t at yoursevles. We can stand proud today folks and lets keep ramming the message home that its only TBB and Eff-Tee_pee that is banned and our other 'folk songs' are no better or worse than Flower Of Scotland. Cammy F

Spoke to a Police Officer about DUFC singing The Billy Boys and asked if they have been instructed to remove anyone singing this song, including away fans, from the ground. His simply answer as 'I don't know' and he admitted to being perplexed by the whole issue, but did say he would raise my concerns with the match commander. Cammy F

Can't claim it as my own, a guy from our RSC sang it on the way home for Motherwell on Sunday, had the bus in stitches....!! Cammy F

Got a good one for when we visit the Tims - to the tune of Yellow Submarine ; 'We all went to a non-sectarian school, a non-sectarian school, a non-sectarian school'...... Cammy F

well done fraser - I really wish that I could have gotten along today to help out - a huge pat on the back for those who did Cammy F

Nah, just know that thanks to going to West Brom games Cammy F

Both West Brom and Birmingham have a large 'loyalist' following where Villa have always 'swung' to the 'republicans'....... And, a few years ago, we did have a rather nasty tare up with the villans... Cammy F

West Brom. Cammy F

Yip, that was what I was affraid off - imagine the outcry after of first (inevitable) defeat - sack PLG imagine getting beaten off (insert SPL or European team here) - that (insert Rangers players name here) is useless, why did we sign him.... Oh and I wonder who the Boo Boys will pick on this season. Cammy F

I think we are underestimating Timmy, their lapdogs in the media and UEFA here. UEFA have already stated that they have to investigate any complaints they receive. Why do you think they investigated us in the first place? Did they stick a pin in the map of Europe and it landed on Ibrox? They recevied complaints from Timmy and from sections of our unbiased and impartial media (thy know who they are) and UEFA set up an investigation. The bus window getting smashed was just the 'icing on the cake'. This is why the CLUB or maybe their new PR gurus must publically defend us now. This is why we have to say, yeah, we hold our hands up, we are getting rid of *** and TBB's, but that is it - no further - take a look at other clubs (Lazio and their Nazi connections, Basque clubs not signing anyone from outwith that region etc, clubs singing IRA songs etc). We (the club) have to be pro-active instead of rushing thro defences if and when UEFA come knocking again. Cammy F

Only if our club defend us - if Timmy complain to UEFA regarding the bouncey and the club tell them the real stroy behind it, then yes, UEFA will stop taking them seriously and tell them to get a life. However, if our custodian and our club turn round and say - oh its about a murder is it, OK we'll tell them to stop singing it' then we are back to square one. This is the time to draw the line in the sand - that message must come from the club - they must say publically that once we are rid of *** and TBB's its time for UEFA to move on and find itself another club to pester - and one that isn't that far from ours. Cammy F

I'll clarify, what I meant was I don't want another post developing into a 20 page 'counter-point' and 'counter-arguement'. Both of us have made our points clearly and neither is going to change our opinions. Lets let other posters have their say on this matter. And for what its worth, we are well shot of FR - having been saying the same for 2-3 seasons now - they guy is trouble and is neither a right back nor a midfield player. Cammy F

Calscot, I'm not getting into all this again - its fair to say that we disagree on this and on who controls the money at Rangers and as to why FR wasn't sacked. Cammy F

Calscot, Martin Bain is full control of transfer fees and wages - that is HIS job. It is a well known fact that David Murray REFUSED to sack Ricksen after he thro a Rangers director into a swimming pool - the only reason - MONEY. If PLG has control of players wages and transfer budgets, why hasn't he signed Beckham, Zidane, Michael Owen etc? Matin Bain and David Murray set the wage budget, the manager has to fit his players into that - the manager supplies Bain with a list of players and Bain tries to sign them and fit them into the wage structure - nothing to do with the manager. cammy F

Once again I have to ask why AM gets blamed for Martin Bain's work? Martin Bain agreed contract and wages for both Ricksen and Bernard, not AM. As for Ricksen, AM wanted to sack him after he thro a Rangers director (who couldn't swim) into a swimming pool, only for David Murray to over-rule his decision as sacking him would cost too much money. Yip, AM has a lot to answer for, but not on the contract front. Cammy F

Yip, looks like that is the situation as of today. Cammy F

Nope, more lies peddled by the greatest liars in the world - they can't even agree what (unfortunate) murder this relates to. Some say it was started by loyalists who celebrated a murder in Londonderry by doing the bouncy - the murder took place in 1994 - I remember doing the boucy at Tynecastle in the 80's. Other say it is done to celebrate the death of a Craptic fan in Glasgow but both are wrong. The Bouncey was started one freezzing cold game at Tynecastle (or it could have been Tannidice) in the early / mid 80's where, to keep warm, Rangers fans began bouncing up and down to keep warm - it spread right around the away end and was even mentioned on the radio at the time. It then started to appear in the East Enclosure at home games and soon the words 'If You Cannae Do The Bouncy' were added. This is just another myth thought up by Timmy to get at us - imagine using the death of one of your own, just to get at Rangers fans - lowest of the low - it ranks up ther with the red tops of our socks symbolising being up to our knees in ****** blood. Cammy F

Gersfem, they will be getting watched at Tynecastle on Sunday.... (jujst we'll be getting watched at Ibrox tomorrow). Cammy F