CammyF

In all seriousness, it is still my opinion that BF is the ONLY player that we have that is 'good enough' to play for Rangers. Now, not getting into another debate about the merits of him being in the team, that means the new management team require to find 10 replacements before the start of next season (and that doesn't take into account the time required for them to 'gell'). If BF goes, that makes an entire new team required. Now, having seen some of the reserve games at the beginning of the season, IMO there is NOTHING there at the moment that would help the first team squad. They may have improved since the last time I saw them, but probably not. Can WS, Stuart McCall and Ally McCoist turn the current squad into a decent team? IMO, yes they can, but it depends on what you would class a 'decent team'. The best they will get IMO is to run Craptic close in the league (win it a few times) and win a few trophies. They will make us hard to beat, but not the most attractive team to watch. Basically, they will be Rangers under AM (so hardly a step forward). It all depends on the transfer budget given to them, or any other management team. We must bevelop a 'spine' to our team just as Souness did when he took over. He bought (over a few seasons) Woods, Butcher, Wilkins and Hateley - what a spine of a team that was. WS will attempt and possibley get (over a few seasons) - Gordon (any better than McGregor?), Webster, Rino and Boyd / O'Connor. Add a few other Scottish players like Brown, Thomson or Hartley (we won't get both), Neilson (is he any better than Mutton?), Quasie and maybe we'll unearth a few foriegn diamonds. IMO, for us to become successful domestically, we have to hope for a fall in standards from our rivals rather than seeing an significant improvement from ourselves. Oh and if that isn't bleak enough, I still think we'll get worse before we get better. Do you think this team would win the SPL? McGregor Hutton/Neilson Webster Svensson Smith Rino Fergie Brown Hartley Boyd Novo/Prso EDIT - actually, it may have a chance if coached correctly Cammy F

There is very little that I can add to this thread that I haven't already stated in other threads today. I'll sumerise my feelings by saying that it is my opinion that this man is killing the club we love. Cammy F

I think the fact that he didn't trust, nor play, the vast majority of the players he signed showed that they weren't good enough for Rangers. A new manager has to trust the players he signed otherwise it gives the impression that they are no better, or indeed worse than those he inherited. That IMO is a terrible admission for a manager. Cammy F

The players ultimately take the responsibility as once they are on the pitch, there is little the manager, coaches etc can do. As for our current squad, some are not good enough, that is obvious. Some look like they could be good enough but they are either not giving 100% or being coached incoorectly. Some are good enough but aren't good enough to carry the rest of the team. The worrying trend for me is that this team / squad have the same failings as AM's - they can not defend, can not take advantage of set-pieces and can't kill teams off. I may have been hoping for too much, but in PLG I thought that we had a coach who could have identified and fixed these traites. He didn't / couldn't. Cammy F

I don't know - I am neither privy to a private conversation, neither do I want to specualte as to what the reasons were. I dare say we'll read about them in the media for the next few days tho. Cammy F

As did PLG's unwillingness to pledge his future to Rangers beyond the summer - hardly in it for the long term was he? Cammy F

I do, but that is just one side of the story - in another media outlet today, they are reporting that PLG was sacked as he was unwilling to pledge his future to Rangers beyond the summer. In the same article, it was reported that Murray BACKED PLG over Fergie and asked PLG to pledge his future to Rangers. When he didn't DM sacked PLG saying that it was better to leave now and not in the summer. Anothger report claims that DM didn't back PLG and that over 90% of the current squad weren't happy with tactics, results, being asked to play out of position. Others claim that the 3 main instigators in the dressing room were Fergie, Boyd and Prso - some claim there wasn't any urest. During WS first time in charge, there was MAJOR dressing room unrest - players were fighting with each other most days in training and some of this boliled over into games (McCoist & Gazza in a League Cup Final v Hearts at The Towers) - however, WS turned this into a positive and managed to get the best out of the players (TIAR season apart). All clubs have 'dressing room unrest' - all clubs have players falling out (Cole and Yorke at Man U as an example - they refused to talk to each other, but by fook were they a potent strike force) - all clubs have players fighting in training - its part of football. We are not alone in this (Lemmon and McGready fighting on the pitch at EEP - a side issue, but how many Tims or the media wanted Lennon punished of his brutality?). Cammy F

It was reported recently that Prso was a supporter of Fergie in the supposed 'Battle Of The Dressing Room'. Now it is being reported that he and Fergie nearly came to blows? WHo are we to believe, or could this be more sensationalism by the media happily gobbled up by the anti-Fergie, pro-PLG brigade (ditto any story that appears to support Fergie)? As I said on another thread we'll NEVER know the real story and hopefully we can put this all behind us Cammy F

Mon The Fort William Congratulations to the wee man Jon - he'll love every minute of it. Cammy F

Every paper today has their own slant on the whole PLG / BF saga and frankly, we'll NEVER know the truth. Hopefully we can put the whole sorry incident behind us and put all our energies into what is best for Rangers Football Club. Or, we could continue the infighting and NOTHING at the club will improve. If you read over some of my posts from last year at this time, I suggested that no matter who replaced AM, we would be back here in 12 months time talking about the same issues and still miles behind the tims. Hey Presto, here we are,....... Here is another Cammy F predication, unless we force Murrays hand, we'll be back here NEXT year discussing who is going to replace the Dream Team of Smith, McCoist and Durrant. Cammy F

Best statement on here for ages.... Has David Muurays continued downsizing of our ambitions really hit us that hard that Falkirk players are who we are looking at to take us forward? As for Graveson, I'd take him tomorrow along with Kenny Miller, Nakamotor and Viniger of Castlemilk - far better than anything (BF and Prso as exceptions) we have. Face facts folks, that is why they are in the last 16 of the CL and streets ahead of us both on and off the pitch at the moment. And signing Gow et al won't change that. We need both quantity and quality at the moment and have neither. BTW Gribz, the answer to your question regarding comp for Le Guen, it is rumoured to have been �£2M Cammy F

Rangers won all what games? I must have missed that this season - IIRC, we haven't won 3 domestic games in a row..... I haven't been around lately for many varied reasons that are far to boring to go into especially with our rudderless club floating from one crisis to another. I make no apologies for reiterating where I believe our problems lie and that is squarely at the door of a certain David Murray. If you believe that I only post this stuff when we are being defeated, check back this board, and the older versions to my words of warning the DAY after our last two league triumphs and articles in No1 Fanzine dating back to the Advocaat era. Cammy F

Yeah, I'm kinda hoping I was waaaaaaayyy wrong... Cammy F

Could be true m8, but when he first took over, it was reported (and not denied) that AM had passed PLG a file on potential signings, including Brown and Thomson. PLG promptly thro this in the bin. This heralded much myrth amoungst the Rangers fans, stating that this showed AM didn't know a player. I wonder how many Austria Vienna players were listed in that file Cammy F

The dark days of McLeish - 7 trophies in 3 seasons - by God, that sounds like HEAVEN at this minute in time.... PLG couldn't even secure 3 back to back victories.... if AM's reign was the dark days, how would you describe the PLG days? Cammy F

Our squad isn't the biggest so can we really afford to lose more players than we sign? Cammy F

With the likely appointment of Smith, McCoist and a-n-other to join Durrant, it looks like we are going back to basics. For some of us old skoolers, that is a welcome return to 2nd degrees, singing the sash and good old fashioned pish ups, before and after games (only joking). As Walter Smith proved with Scotland, if you get the basics right (proper defending, taking advantage of set-pieces, getting EVERY player giving 100%) the rest will take care of itself. IMO, we shouldn't expect fancy, free flowing football, but a return to the days when The Rangers were hard to score against, never mind defeat. Hopefully it'll also lead to a return to fortres IBROX where times litterly shit themselves when they emerged from the tunnel. Cammy f

Not according to BBC - Rangers Closing In On Hibs Duo.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/6231867.stm Cammy F

off topic, but did any of you catch the Marvin Andrews comment regarding the press a few weeks back? He was launching a book (I think) and was asked by Britney what he thought of the Rangers crisis - he responded by saying something like 'yeah, I have been watching, just like you circling serpants'. Utterly fantastic Marvin - apparently Britney was ragin... Marvin Andrews - Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Cammy F

Didn't he always fancy a crack at the French National Team - they aren't doing too well at the moment, but wouldn't rule him out of that role. Cammy F

I've been told that Tuesday will be the day for the announcement. Cammy F

Yeah, lets bust the new managers transfer budget by paying off yet another 6-8 players..... :admin: Cammy F

Interesting part regarding McCall - someone who has done brilliantly with Sheffield United - he is the first person on the training pitch and the last one off it. Warnock credits his attitude and training as the reason Sheffield United have done so well recently. Cammy F

and will be replaced by Walter Smith and Ally McCoist.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/01/04/ufnall04.xml Cammy F

Are you telling us that BF FORCED PLG out of Ibrox Steve? Does a successful businessman like Sir David Murray listen to wee neds in all his business ventures? Surely shum mistake as Sir Shaun would say..... Cammy F