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I was at both the home and away legs the last time we played them and there was major trouble, instigated by their casuals at both games. At Ibrox, a section of their fans attacked Rangers fans in the Govan, this included woman and children. At one point, differing Feyenoord sections were fighting with each other In Feyenoord, the police in Amsterdam advised us not to travel to the game via train as we would likely be attacked at the station or on the way to the ground. We managed to get a lift from a supporters bus which was attacked on route. Once in the bus park, the Rangers fans were once again attacked by Feyenoord fans. All od the above appears to be acceptable under UEFA regulations, but hell mend you if you sing a wee song about the Pontiff... Cammy F

That is not the problem tho - plenty people buy and read this paper (non-Rangers fans) and may now believe that the bouncy (an innocent chant / reason to jump up and down in the wet / cold - that is why it originated) is now linked to a sectarian murder. Hence, our public image falls even FURTHER. These continued lies regarding our songs must be challanged. Cammy F

Taken form the letter section of Scotland on Sunday... Praise saved for Britannia LIKE Moira Gordon, I attended the Old Firm encounter at Parkhead and broadly concur with her opinion that the vocal offerings of the Rangers support showed significant improvement from previous form - not that there was much on-pitch achievement to encourage inspired lyricism from that quarter. However, it may not be clear to all that one of their apparent favourites, the Bouncy, Bouncy chorus, refers to the sectarian murder of Robert Hamill by a loyalist mob in Portadown in 1997. But as for Rule Britannia, only a curmudgeon would take umbrage at a rousing song eulogising a building society that offers a better rate of saving than Lionel Letizi or Allan McGregor. John McDonnell London ------------------------------------------------- Funny how we've been doing the bouncy since the 80's - either TIMMY is lying again, or we as a fan base are Mystic Meg and knew this murder was going to take place and decided to celebrate this before the event occured :ffs: I hope of shiney new PR Department are writing to SoS as we speak.... (pigs will fly, hell will freeze over etc). Cammy F

Just read on an Aberdeen forum that the words to this song are 'We're Red, You're dead, we're JUMPING ON YOUR HEAD'... so this song is perfectly acceptable but being up to your knees in F'in blood isn't - anyone care to tell me the difference here - well apart from the obvious that only one is sung by Rangers fans... Cammy F

Anyone BAR Feyenoord - their fans are complete scum..... Cammy F

Well, it's a mad 'Scotland' anyway.... We have a set of fans who fly a flag designed and created by a convicted IRA terrortist which was approved and (possibly) paid for by the club. We also have a set of fans who fly flags designed by Peadophiles, rapists and murderers in Peterhead jail (who receive payment for this). All these banners are welcome at Ibrox (as they are at their home stadiums) with open arms, yet an 'Ulster Scots' banner was going to be banned...... (bought, paid for by hard-working people). Also, the person who allows these banners to be flown at Ibrox has stated in conversation with a well known fanzine editor that he believes that 'We Are The People' is a sectarian song / chant / phrase. McIntyre you are not welcome at OUR club... Cammy F

Anyone hear the 'we're red, we're (something else I couldn't catch), we're jumping on your heads (or something similar)... Red Ultras = Always Ultras Cammy F

I remember that Tugay played as sweeper if that helps Cammy F - Away To Get My Thinking Cap On Loyal RSC

Even this early in his Rangers career, PLG must realise that tomorrows game is a 'MUST WIN'. Defeat and elimination from the UEFA Cup is unthinkable and IMO, will be unacceptable to the majority of the Rangers support, both on footballing and financial terms. We are lagging on the SPL and it'll take a remarkable turnaround to see is crowned SPL Champions in May. Also, with Craptic being Scotland's sole representitives in the CL, they are on course to pocket at least �£10M from the group stages alone. Meanwhile, we face a 'one-off' game to ensure as little as �£3-4M from the UEFA Cup group stages. With injuries and 'cup-tied' players, a victory tomorrow isn't a formality and I hope that we (the fans) can emulate Pompy and CSKA fans who have, in the last few days shown exactly how to support your team. Hopefully the management, players and fans will be up for it tomorrow from the first to the last minute. Cammy F

Like in all walks of life, it'll be more common than you, or I think.... Cammy F

No, but why would hetro-sexual males what to have a 'list' of gay footballers? Does it make them any less of a talent? any less of a player? or any less of a man? Cammy F

What really gets me is why any male would want to know which players were 'gay'? You want to get their numbers or something? Cammy F

Once again the wee bigot makes an inflammatory gesture to the Rangers support during an OF game and once again the wee innocent, misunderstood and downtrodden maggot gets away with it. When the gesture was brought to the attention of the Police, they shrugged it off and said that it was up to the SPL to act / punish the wee reptile. This leads me on to the Policing and Stewarding of OF games at Torbett Towers. As you approach from the East, you are forced along London Road and are met by streets filled with the jolly craicsters who jovially throw objects at buses, drink in the street and sing their loveable terrorist songs with impunity. It isnââ?¬â?¢t until you turn into the ââ?¬Ë?Rangers Parking Sectionââ?¬â?¢ that you encounter a Policeman. And by God, do you encounter them in the bus park ââ?¬â?? they are there in riot gear, on horses and with dogs. As we walked the short distance to the ground, I had my ticket checked 3 times and had the bag containing our club flag searched twice (and was then searched at the turnstyles). The steward in the first cordon was a charming fellow who had some lovely Indian ink tattoos. On one hand he had ââ?¬Ë?1916ââ?¬â?¢ and on the other ââ?¬Ë?I-R-Aââ?¬â?¢. Now imagine the outcry if Craptic fans were greeted at Ibrox with stewards with U-V-F and King Billy tattoos? Add this to the overzealous Policing at Easter Road the pervious week, one has to ask the question, do all other travelling supporters face the same hostility, heavy-handedness and provocation whilst visiting places like Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Parkhead, or is this some sort of welcome especially reserved for Rangers fans? Cammy F

... underestimated the quality, pace, passion and strength of the SPL? IMO, he has and this can be seen in some of his signings. He signed players like Svensson on merits that are not suitable for the SPL. A centre-half that cannot head a ball might look class in France, but in the SPL, he looks like a Sunday League player. Leading on from this, we had a very interesting conversation on the journey home on Saturday about the merits of employing an 'assistant manager' from Scotland. Look at most 'foriegn' managers in the EPL, they all have 'English - English based' assistants and when Souness signed for us, his first signing was Walter Smith. Cammy F

Exactly, and I stand by what I said, Cammy Fraser was a better Rangers player than Ian Murray has been to date (for the reasons given). Erm, disagree - the 2-1 game at Easter Road Hibs ripped us in the first 45 minutes. They did this by exploiting the width given to them by Hutton and Murray going far to narrow - so maybe Murray should share the blame with Hutton on that one. The cup game was different - we played well in the first half and could / should have been 2-3 goals up at half-time. Terrible defending cost us the game and Murray was at fault along with Ricksen, Soti and Big Marv. I only used those games as an example - apart from the Villarreal away game, I am struggling to remember a game last season where Ian Murray stood out for Rangers. Maybe I am being unfair / fickle or whatever, but that is just how I remember it. Only DA can answer that question - my theory is as valid as yours or Calscot's tho, unless one of you are DA in disguise. In my defence, Millar featured in a lot of games as soon as he signed for us tho... Cammy F

Agreed with most of what you say, apart from Hutton - he is / was a promising player, but IMO and it is only that, he has gone backwards. The main problem for me is that he is inclined to come in too narrow and leaves the flank exposed. Also, he gives away stupid free-kicks in dangerous areas. Maybe it is just me, but the Zenit game demonstrated that the players we have in reserve just aren't good enough. That was their opportunity to show PLG what they are capable off and they failed to deliver. I think the reverse of you, IMO PLG has changed the starting 11 to many times. IMO, he should chose his first choice 11 and stick with it. Cammy F

As we fast approach the anniversary of the death of the legend that is Bill Struth, how do you think Mr Struth would perceive the Rangers of today? Do you think he would support David Murray�s management and custodianship? What do you think he would say about the modern day players, the traditions of our club and the way football is played today? Also, what do you think his opinions of us, the fans would be? Do you think he would have stood back for so long and watched the *** brigade soil our good name? Would he have allowed no-marks like Spiers, Keevins and McNee to continually attack us or the club? In my humble opinion, I firmly believe that Mr Struth will be spinning in his grave at the current state of our club, the once great institution. What would we give for a leader like Bill Struth today? Cammy F

Yip, they should retitle the AGM as 'Groundhog Day' - same inane questions from the floor, the same responses from the Custodian. Typical David Murray, all noise no action... Cammy F

And if anyone has retained interest in the thread, and it's original topic, Clement is out of the OF game on Saturday and Prso is struggling to be fit - source is Radio Snyde and Evening Times. Cammy F

Wrong again, you claimed I was fickle due to the fact that you 'assumed' I want short term wins over long term success. That is despite the fact that I have, for 4 years, continually asked David Murray to divert all available funds to Youth Development. Very fickle and short-termism you'll agree You then assumed that Gersfem was fickle for a one-off rant about handing back her ticket - something she is perfectly entitled to do. Maybe it is what you or I would do, but hey, some of us have a different opinion. Bullshit - I have never, and will never dictate to anyone how best to support Rangers. We have all differing views, opinions etc, we are all entitled to them. If a fan wants to hand back theire ticket, what business it of mine? I use my rants to portray my opinion on Rangers and other events. Do I expect everyone to agree with them? Do I fook, in fact, I would worry if most people did as I class myself as 'way-out there'. I also publish them to provoke debate and encourage people to rip them apart as they see fit. Nope, never lecutured you - just don't expect me (or anyone else) to sit back whilst you assume the worst in other people. I encourage debate on my threads, you seem to oppose debate and don't like other replying if they don't agree with you - or assume that they are fickle or that their noses are out of joint. So you are selective in your liking of people who disagree with you. I'm not, anyone is free to disagree with me, everyone is free to have a differing opinion from me, they are also free to say so on the forum without me calling them fickle, or that their nose is out of joint or that they aren't 'reasoned and rational. This isn't a compitition Calscot, there are no winners and losers whilst debating the merits of a football club. As for changing my opinion, I have on many subjects including Rangers signing Catholics, David Murray, songs that we sing etc, etc. The reason I changed my mind, listening and reading posts by fellow supporters. Very closed-minded of me. As for being difficult, so what, and why should I be any different? If you find me difficult, you expect me to change just for your sake? Jeez... The only agenda I have is to ensure that Rangers Football Club are the best they can be - make no apologies for that, I am afraid Never have and never will claim that I am - just one voice amoungst 10000000's Cammy F

There loss tho - at our dance last year, the wee bloke from Ibrox sold-out everything he had brought along and made �£1000's ...... We are thinking about contacting Rangers and asking if they can supply us goods at cost and we'll sell them ourselves. Cammy F

As our annual RSC dance is approaching, we are looking to get everything in place for this - band, catering, DJ, players and we usually have a stall from 'Rangers Direct' selling tops etc on the night. Now, everything has been booked and we visited the local JJB store to see if they were wanting to bring along a 'stall' to sell Rangers gear on the night. The guy we spoke to informed us that we would need to speak to the manager but he didn't see a problem and that it was a good idea. The manager of the store contacted us and once he knew it was a RSC dance said the following 'Why would I want a stall at something like that? Anyway, we are all Tims'... Cammy F

If true, why wait until the end of the transfer window to offer cash - why not give PLG the money and players ne needed / identified when we had the chance (pre-world cup)? Another master-stroke from The Mint - 'Here Martin, I have a cunning plan - lets not buy the players PLG has identified now, lets wait until 20 minutes before the window closes and we'll get them on the cheap'... Cammy F

Nope, I contact the 'service provider'. Sanyo, Sony etc don't regulate the TV programmes, they offer a platform for broadcasting.. If I don't like a certain programme, I chose NOT TO WATCH IT... Simple really Cammy F

Nope - its called freedom of choice Maybe Gersfem (along with others) have given it serious thought. Maybe they are p155ed of working like c*nts to save up enough money to go and watch Rangers to contiunally be served up dross. Maybe, like most working class families, the �£1000 pounds they spend annually, could be put to 'better use' for the family. Maybe they can no longer afford the �£34 pounds for OF tickets, �£350 pounds for same day trip to Molde, �£25 pounds for games in Edinburgh, 3 away games on the trot. Some might try actually trying to follow Rangers - pay the money we pay, have the hassle we have from Police, Stewards etc - yoiu don't get that from your �£100 package from Sentanta. So you are in no position to judge, but you just had to reply and call gersfem 'fickel' It does have relevance - as for my nose being out of joint, why would it be? It appears that it is your nose that is out of joint, I haven't and wouldn't call supporters of this club fickel or lecture them on how best to follow Rangers. Why? Because I don't agree with you. Sorry, from now on, I'll not disagree with anything you say oh worthy master - I now 'have a grip'... Cammy F