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ARRRGGGHHHHHH - using your own arguement, no they aren't - if they were, we wouldn't be 19 points adrift. What I am saying is that for all his goals, Boyd isn't the player required to score the winning goal that will turn a draw into a victory. Something that Rod Wallace (and Ally McCoist) were famed for. Prso is that type of player, he'll score the winning goal, the goal that is the difference between 1 or 3 points. Look at Craptic - how many games have they scored a winning goal from 80 minutes onwards? That is where we have fallen short this season - we DO NOT HAVE A PLAYER WHO CAN WIN US THESE TYPE OF GAMES... Cammy F

IMO, this is the result of our club allowing so much lies, half-truths and negativity to be written about us, whilst our enemies in the press largely ignore any bad press about the yahoos. Petty, childish yip, but where else are you likely to hear, read, find out about Timmys indescretions? Certainly not in the press. It wasn't that long ago that 2 of their players and 2 of their directors were filmed / photographed singing IRA songs in a hotel owned by an ex-IRA member at an OFFICIAL club function and it got 3 lines in most papers. Sign of the times really. Cammy F

Honestly Frankie, I hope the lad proves me wrong, but I can't see this happening. Cammy F

Gazza, refer to the GersNet Banner thread - myself and my good lady almost got arrested for displaying it at Parkhead. The stewards, backed up by The Police told me that it was 'ileagal' to hand banners from the top tier. Meanwhile, 40 yards away at the other side of the segregation, stewards are HELPING craptic fans hang THEIR banners. Frankie as a board memeber of the RST was also given lengthy emails / letters etc from me as 'evidence' when I spent weeks debating Policing at The Towers where Police officers REFUSED to action reports of sectarian abuse from Craptic fans towards Rangers fans. I don't go to watch Police, but surely, you can't fail to notice a bus load of coppers dressed in riot gear videoing you as you make you way to the game and whilst you are sitting in the first row? The next time you go to Parkhead, have a look at the walkway between the main stand and the Rangers end - and you'll notice Police officers videoing the RANGERS END ONLY. As Frankie says, this is a combination of many factors, but surely, Larry has an obligation to ensure that we are treated equally as any other group of football fans, especially in OUR stadium. Cammy F

He isn't even that, are you seriously saying that Boyd is better than Prso, Ferguson, Hendami???? Boyd isn't even the best 'striker' that we have. He is the best goal-scorer we have. Cammy F

They aren't, but they normally have a HUGE bearing on where the league ends up. Can you honestly say that come the next OF games, even OF games NEXT season, you are confident that Boyd will score for Rangers? Or more importantly, are you confident that in ANY game next season that is poised at 0-0 with 2 minutes to go that Boyd would score you the winning goal on a regular basis? I ain't Cammy F

If you revert back to Busters post on Boyds stats whislt it *may* appear that Boyd has a fantastic scoring record, and he does, just have a look at the stats, look over them and digest them Goals breakdown for KB Kilmarnock..............8 ** Dundee U................5 * Dunfermline.............4 Hearts....................4 * Peterhead...............3 * Hibs.......................3 Motherwell..............3* Falkirk..........,.........3* ICT........................2 Livingston...............2 St, Mirren...............1 Aberdeen................1 Livorno...................1 * Auxerre..................1 selick.....................0 Molde....................0 Maccabi.................0 * Villareal..................0 Hapoel...................0 St.Johnstone..........0 * penalties Red spl 1st and 3rd place + European ---------------------------------------------- Boyd doesn't do enough end of story. I can't remember where I read this but compared to say Ally McCoist (the last player to score as many for us) and Larsson, Boyd's percentange for scoring the winning goal (i.e 1-0, 2-1, 3-2) in games is in single figures, the other two were up in the 20% mark. That is what we need, a player who can turn a game in our favour, a playewr who will, week after week, score the WINNING goal in a tight game, or a game where we've played below standard. The last player we had who delivered like that was probably Rod Wallace. IMO, Boyd couldn't lace Rod's boots Cammy F

Gazza, have you been to an OF game at The Towers recently? Have you witnessed the Police intimidation of the Rangers fans? I think Frankie will correct me if I am wrong, but Rangers fans are 90% more likely to be arrested at The Towers than a Craptic fan. It is up to Rangers Security to ensure that ALL fans visiting Ibrox behave and evenhandedness is essential to this. However, to Larry McIntyre, that is an alien concept. Remember Larry once publically stated that TBO cause him more problems than Craptic, Aberdeen and Hibs fans combined Cammy F

He scored against US and has 3 goals in 6 CL games . He cost Craptic nothing, Sebo cost us ~£2M Cammy F

Don't know how many Bears know that there has been a campaign by Bears to let Scotland know that Big Jock Knew. On Craptics recent visits to Livingston and Aberdeen, local Bears have draped Big Jock Knew banners on moterway / duel-carridgeway fly overs on the outscirts / approaches to the two venues. Ayrshire Bears also had several on the approach to Killie for our visit a few weeks back, and as of yesterday, one was still flying proudly. Hats off to these Bears. Cammy F

On Thursday, we have as an important part to play in proceedings as any of the players lukily enough to be representing Rangers in this crucial match. Lets make sure that we are on our European best on Thursday and get behind the players from the first minute to the last. LETS GET IBROX BOUNCIN' Cammy F

Compare and contrast Boyd's goals in big games to say Prso, Lovenkrands and even Novo - there is NO comparison. Also, IMO no point in Boyd getting 30-40 goals a season if we are 19 points behind Craptic and not challanging in Europe. Boyd has had 'chances' both in the CL and OF games, just that he has failed to take them. Cammy F

Gribz may have a point - can someone post Millers and Boyds stats for say OF, CL and international games? I'm willing to bet my house that Miller 'outscores' Boyd in all three categories. IIRC Boyd hasn't scored against Craptic in his ENTIRE career...... and no matter what we think, it is OF games (and CL games) where a player will be judged. Cammy F

Whilst this is an issue we have to address, racism is rife in gerneral society, so it can be expected to be displayed at football matches. Do we have more 'racists' in our support than any other club, I would doubt it. The majority of fans who participate in this 'idiotic salute' do so not because they are racist (I'd have more respect for them if they were, at least they would then have an 'opinion'), they do so as the feel that it is 'connecting' them to the Ulster Bears (who detest this salute) and / or it somehow makes them 'more British'. As Frankie and the RST said about losing TBB, it is about education not condemnation. We as a support have to start self-poilicing and eradicate this 'salute' once and for-all. However, as said above, the media are going to be on the look-out for this on Thursday and the idiots will give them more than enough ammuniation. Wonder if this below was reported in our unbiased press (two wrongs don't make a right - just showing up the press for what they are) Cammy F

I think you have missed the entire point of my post. Larry McIntyre allows VISITING fans to display political banners and sing political songs, yet a Bear dares to bring along an anti-Labour banner and faces losing his season ticket. If one political banner is banned, I await for Larry's stromtroopers wading into visiting fans displaying political banners or singing political songs. You either allow 'everyone' to display such banners, or you ban everyone. Cammy F - All We Want Is A Level Playing Field Loyal RSC

No it doesn't I am proud of the Union Flag, I am proud to be British, I am a Unionist and a loyalist (with a small l), I sing RB and GSTQ but if you called me a Nazi, I'd kick you in the baws, sir. Cammy F

Well done Del, hopefully this will be a fixutre in the Copland Rear now Frankie has the gersnet banner (mark 1) and would assume that if any other member wanted to take either, or both into their section, Del and Frankie would be more than happy to pass on the banners Probably shouldn't post this, but taking them does give you some 'intersting' conversations with PC Plod and Rock Steady - nearly got me jailed at Torbett Towere :admin: Cammy F

So being 'proud to be British' attracts Nazis - I hope you were being ironic there. Cammy F - All Gave Some, Some Gave All Loyal RSC

Donââ?¬â?¢t know if anyone has noticed a ââ?¬Ë?political bannerââ?¬â?¢ that has been present at the previous two Rangers matches (Killie away, Falkirk at home)? It bears the legend ââ?¬Ë?End Bigotry Now ââ?¬â?? Donââ?¬â?¢t Vote Labourââ?¬â?¢ (or something similar). Now, not knowing the people behind the banner, I would assume that this serves two purposes, sticking 2 fingers up to Joke McConnell and the Catholic mafia that run Scottish Labour, and being somewhat tongue in cheek. Anyway, it appears that Lawrence ââ?¬Ë?Larryââ?¬â?¢ McIntyre has taken offence at the banner and had it removed from the Copland Front on Sunday and has invited its owners to a meeting in his office. Now, lets take away whether you actually agree with the sentiment of the banner (I agree with it!), but is there to take offence to? It appears that Larry is quite happy to accommodate Timmy with their ââ?¬Ë?politicalââ?¬â?¢ songs and banners at Ibrox, as well as, to a lesser extent Abergreen. If you will, Iââ?¬â?¢d like to digress here for a while and examine the tangled web woven by Timmyââ?¬â?¢s political stance. They happily sing ââ?¬Ë?political songsââ?¬â?¢ in support of a racist, murdering gang yet portray themselves as ââ?¬Ë?socialistsââ?¬â?¢. They campaign for a United Ireland, yet support a region of Spain who want independence from Spain (and who will use murderous tactics to gain this independence ââ?¬â?? oh wait, is there a theme developing here?). Also, to a man, theyââ?¬â?¢ll vote for a unionist party here in Scotland / UK????? They will happily fly the Cuban Flag for Castro, along side photos of the Kennedy Clan ââ?¬â?? WTF, surely not even the twisted and bitter mind of a Yahoo can support both Castro and the Kennedyââ?¬â?¢s? You bet they canââ?¬Â¦. You think this is unfathomable, well, could anyone explain how a Yahoo can fly both the flag of the Vatican and the Che Guevara flags? Old Che would be spinning in his graveââ?¬Â¦ Anyway, back to my point, if I can remember what it wasââ?¬Â¦. Oh, aye, what is Larryââ?¬â?¢s thinking? His boss is no lover of the Labour Party, so does the ex-cop have a hidden agenda here, or is he just a knobend? I think a bit of both. A little postscript to this ââ?¬Ë?politicalââ?¬â?¢ thread, your old mukka Cammy was ââ?¬Ë?chasedââ?¬â?¢ from Ibrox in the 80ââ?¬â?¢s for naively, nay stupidly making a ââ?¬Ë?political statementââ?¬â?¢ in the guise of a Sex Pistols ââ?¬Ë?God Save The Queenââ?¬â?¢ t-shirt and Iââ?¬â?¢ll admit that Larry wasnââ?¬â?¢t the one who ââ?¬Ë?chasedââ?¬â?¢ meââ?¬Â¦.:admin: Cammy F ââ?¬â?? Donââ?¬â?¢t Vote Catholic Mafia Controlled Labour

Yes and no.... The 'nazi' type salute is NEW amongst the Rangers support, the 'red hand salute' isn't. This was big, especially in the east enclosure in the early to mid 80's. At that time tho, it was easily identified as a 'red hand salute' as the fans who did this, all wore a red glove and their hands were pointed 'upwards' unlike the NAZI salutes of today. The original red hand salutes disappeared from Ibrox in the late 80's and early 90's and the NAZI salute has crept in over the last decade or so, usually when singing RB and GSTQ (how ironic). Cammy F

Even if it were a 'red hand salute', this has nothing, I repeat NOTHING to do with Ulster, Loyalism or Rangers. For those who persist and tell us all, its a 'red hand salute', try doing this in George Square on Rememberance Sunday and await a swift kick in the baws from a real hero. THIS MUST STOP AND IT MUST STOP NOW. I dread to think about reactions after Thursday evening - European nights appear to attract the 'nedish' crowd at Ibrox and all the media glare will be upon us. Cammy F

Lost all respect for Mr Klos when we approached him regarding attending our POTY Dance and he ignored us claiming that 'I don't speak English'. Obvioulsy knows enough English to bank is fookin wages... Cammy F

Why? I was always one of PL's fans and urged manager after manager to play him in his best position, through the middle. I stated last season that IMO PL was outstanding during our CL run as his pace and finishing caused no ends of problems. Our biggest problem at the moment is that we have no one in our team with genuine pace - something PL has. Cammy F

Seriously, I'd keep Fergie, Prso (if fit), Novo (squad player), Hendami, McGregor (squad player), Boyd (squad player), Smith (squad player) and Thompson. The rest can leave any time they want. We urgently require a top class keeper, entire back 4, 3-4 quality midfield players and 2 strikers. The 'Dream Team' have their work cut out in the summer. Cammy F

We have a long, hard and ardious (sp) task of returning to the domestic summit. We are light-years behind Craptic off and on the pitch at the moment, and this hasn't just happened. Bar for two fantastic and enjoyable last day title wins, we'd be staring at Craptic heading for 6 in a row. WS and AM won't be able to turn this around overnight (no manager could IMO), in fact, WS stated today that he believes we are 5 years behind Craptic at the moment. Until the majority of fans realise why we are going backwards then NOTHING will change. yes, we will win the odd domestic cup and league title, but we won't dominate Scottish football like we have in the past. This is the question that we really need to ask ourselves. Are we content with the quality of Chairman, Board, Management and players that we currently have? Or do we want Rangers to develop into THE dominating domestic force and a real threat in Europe? If it is option one, then we have EVERYTHING we need in place. If like me, it's option 2, we'll NEVER suceed whilst those in charge of option 1 are still in power at OUR club and supported bu the majority of our fans. Cammy F