CammyF
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Winning trophies is what counts - doesn't matter how these are won (playing fantastic football every week or grinding out 1-0's - winning the league by Easter or winning it with the last kick of the ball - as long as you win).... Rangers have been 2nd and 3rd best in a two horse race for 3 season now - that is unacceptable for The Rangers and has to be addresses. A 4th season as 2nd best in the SPL is UNTHINKABLE. We must win this SPL title and I don't care how we play as long as we win it. Cammy F
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IMO, if he remained injury free, Mols would still have been a Rangers player to this day. Wallace was signed on a FREE transfer, hardly a big name before he signed for us, what a piece of business by DA (I admit that I wasn't too chuffed when he signed). Hateley cost �£1.5M - hardly an earth shattering amount for a player who had played in Italy and France. Recently, Blackburn have picked up 2 brilliant strikers for less than �£8M pounds - Benni McCarthy was bought for �£2M pounds. You don't need to break the bank for a great player - how much did Brian Laudrup cost? Gazza only cost us �£4M - thats only �£1M more that Lafferty has cost us and the same we are going to buy Davis for...... So why can't we replicate these signings? Why can't we find the next Dado Prso, they are out there but Rangers don't have the foresight or the ambition to get these type of deals. Oh and how much did Carlos cost us (I know he's not a striker but was unheard of and unheralded before this season)? A great player doesn't need to be a 'big name player'. In saying that, Ronald De Boer was for me, the last world class player that we signed. He's never been replaced. Cammy F
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So how did we manage to attract and keep (better) players like Mols, Wallace, Prso, Hateley, McCoist, et al....... Cammy F
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Look, I said that adam, mculloch et al weren't world beaters, but you can't expect to win things with players playing out of position - we did that for most of the season. When playing 4-5-1, it is up to the full backs to produce the width, otherwise you get stagnated and bogged down in the middle of the pitch. We were at our best when Beasley and Hutton supplied the width and the midfield then had options out wide, or players like McCulloch and Ferguson supporting the front man. When we lost that width, our central midfield players had no options other than hit the lone front man and hope that we got bodies around him. Cammy F
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So Boyd is blameless? So what are our strengths? We only have limited strengths - we are hard to beat, have a never say die attitude and have 10 or so players who would run themselves into the ground for the team and the manager. Ultimately that wasn't good enough - I don't think we'd have won the league of we'd played 4-4-2 and Boyd played every game - IMO we would have lost by a greater margin (with or without Boyd in a 4-4-2 BTW) Cammy F
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For simply pointing out his weaknesses? Cammy F
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What? You are comfortable with us playing with 4 centre halfs at the back with no natural full backs? When we lost Hutton we lost not just a fantastic defender, but one of our most potent weapons going forward. The lack of natural full backs cust us dear. Weir was found out in a few games as well last season - his age and fitness started to show and we lost stupid goals that cost us points (Motherwell away, Aberdeen away). We lost Beasley, Adam, McCulloch, Burke for long periods during the season, that is all of our 'wide players' - they aren't world beaters but offer width and they supply decent crosses into the box. For the majority of the season we were limited to central midfield players playing out wide. Our strikers (all of them) were guilty of passing up chance after chance after chance in vital games to kill of the game. Cammy F
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No, thats always been my thoughts - never once said it was Boyds fault - don't know what you are trying to do / say here Jon - re-read all my posts on this and any other Boyd thread and point out any that have blamed Boyd for us not winning the SPL.... Cammy F
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So its everyones fault apart from Boyds? What is WS to do? Try different formations, different players, different strips until we eventually win a game that Boyd scores so some can say, see told, if we get everything right, Boyds the man????? Simply don't understand what you are saying. WS had a plan and formation that turned us from being easy beat to being hard to beat - ultimately, it wasn't good enough to win us the league. We've been 2nd and 3rd best for 3 years now, 2 of which Boyd played the majority of games. Cammy F
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The blame is shared - defence not mean enough, especially at the end of the season - the midfield depleted by injuries so we had no width, and the strikers, Botd included who couldn't put the games out or reach, or score that important goal to win us games. So, not soley the fault of Botd, but he can't escape his share of the blame and people are allowed to believe (rightly or wrongly) that he isn't a great player. Cammy F
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We tried playing 4-4-2 and it didn't work - we left ourselves open to fast paced attacking SPL teams. IMO if we'd played 4-4-2 in the SPL we would have ended up further behind than we did. I have said on the other thread that we need vast improvement and that doesn't just relate to Botd, we need improvement throughout the team. Cammy F
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Even if his 'goals' aren't enough to win us the league? I'd prefer to have a player scoring less goals that won us games than a player who'll score for fun when we are winning but can't get us the important goals that turn 1 point into 3. Serious question, if Celtc win the league for the next 4-5 seasons (GOD FORBID) and Boyd was to score say 30 goals each season, would you still be happy? Second best isn't an option for Rangers and currently we don't have the players to make us champions, that has to change. Cammy F
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That I would agree on - McDonald isn't far behind him on that front tho.... Not if playing to his strengths makes us an easier team beat. Cammy F
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So you believe that Boyd can hold up the ball, can run in behind defenders, can score from all areas of the pitch, has the fitness to harrass defenders, chase back, keeps himself onside more often than not, can control the ball and turn on a sixpence? If you do, you've been watching a different Rangers team from me in the last 3 seasons. Cammy F
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If his overall game didn't improve, I'd be saying the same as I am now.... What would you say if Boyd was sold to Cardiff, spent most of the time on their bench and seen out his career in the 2nd or 3rd tier of English football? Would you still claim he is a great player? I make no apologies for saying that Boyd isn't and doesn't look like developing into a 'great player'. He is a dencent, run of the mill SPL centre forward - nothing more, nothing less. There are 100's of better players out there and 100's of worse players. Cammy F
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Jon, it isn't anti-Boyd rubbish - some have an opinion that can be backed up that Boyd isn't and never has been the best striker in Scotland - I would agree with Pete, at this moment in time, McDonald is a BETTER player than Boyd. Cammy F
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Don't think that I have ever claimed that Boyd is 'pish', but he is not a great player either - he can't be mentioned in the same breath as past greats like Colin Stein, Derek Parlane, Derek Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Ally McCoist, Mark Hateley, Rod Wallace etc. In fact, he'd be behind players like Drinkell, Negri, JJ, MoJo, Darche, Prso et al Cammy F
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What Boyd lacks is the ability to control the ball, keep hold of it, buy some time, gain free-kicks, pace to get in behind defenders, the ability to turn and shoot (and score) from angles and outside the box. He lacks the ability to defend from the front, he can't hunt down defenders forcing them into errors, he can't remain onside when playing the lone strikers role, he can't jump and gain the ball without conceeding free kicks and he doesn't have the fitness to chase back. Apart from that, he's got all that it takes to make the grade. Cammy F
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IMO, Boyd has been nowhere near the 'best' striker in Scotland - and he's as far away from being the best striker as he's ever been. Cammy F
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NAh, like the vast majority of players that leave Rangers, Boyd's career will go 'down-hill' - he'll end up alongside Stevie Thomspon at Cardiff or somewhere similar. Cammy F
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To be fair to RUN DMB, it was a horrific injury and one sustained whilst he was cementing a staring place in the team. I was impressed with what I saw from Beasley last season, especially in Europe - he offered genuine pace and could keep the ball, create chances and get set-pieces in our favour. He also, IMO put in a MOTM performance in the Scottish Cup Final where he once again looked fast and created and scored a goal. I hope / think that he'll be a big player for us next season. Cammy F
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Aye, and if Boyd stays he'll benefit from the Kenny Miller factor - i.e Miller will split the fans even MORE than Boyd Cammy F
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Thats a very BOLD STATEMENT - I'd settle for Boyd becoming the best striker in the SPL. Cammy F
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I'm hoping we are going to play 4-3-3 in domestic games and 4-5-1 in Europe and 'tough' away games. I haven't seen an improvement in Boyd's overall game since the day he signed, in fact, under PLG he looked disinterested and I thought that Ally and Walter would be able to bring more out of Boyd, I don't think they have. In fact, it says something about his overall ability that WS doesn't trust him as a lone stricker and only plays Boyd in limited spells. I don't think Boyd is worth more that �£3M in todays transfer market. If Boyd leaves Rangers, he'll join an English Championship side or a newly promoted club like WBA. As I said, I'm not losing sleep over whether he stays or goes - but if his transfer fee can be used to IMPROVE another area, I'd sell him tomorrow. We urgently require 2 creative midfield players, a (fit, expereinced and under 40!!!!!) centre-half and both a right and left back. Cammy F
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Jon, with all due respect, the finals were against DUFC and QoS - I don't think Boyd would have scored doubles if both finals were against say Celtc, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts etc... He hasn't improved his game since he signed for us, he can't play as a lone striker and looks lost in our preferred 4-5-1 system. He looks 'unfit' and there are constant rumours regarding his personal life. If WS changes formation nexy season and plays 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 then Boyd could become a regular. However, with 3 forwards signed already, looks like he isn't going to be a regular started next season. Given that, if we could generate �£3M plus from selling him, we could use that money to buy a creative midfield player or a badly need right and left back. Cammy F
