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Iââ?¬â?¢d like to question a few points raised by SMDââ?¬â?¢s response to the ââ?¬Ë?We Deserve Better Campaignââ?¬â?¢ and have noticed that he refused to answer any the points put forward and instead, chose to try to deepen divisions amongst the support. SDM claims that none of us questioning him are ââ?¬Ë?not exactly captains of industryââ?¬â?¢, by God David, thatââ?¬â?¢s a rather egocentric put down that one. So anyone that questions you doesnââ?¬â?¢t know what they are talking about? Jeez, talk about egosââ?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬Â¦ SDM talks of the loyalty of the support being crucial to the long-term longevity of the club, but does he expects us (PAYING CUSTOMERS) to show blind, deaf and dumb loyalty? At a time when he is asking for the support to be united, he is marginalising those who chose to question him. Does questioning the way the club has been run now make you disloyal and not a ââ?¬Ë?real Rangers fanââ?¬â?¢? Sorry Mr Murray, but most of those questioning you are the most LOYAL Rangers fans I know. By implying that those who have the audacity to question you are disloyal, you are actually creating divisions, something I believe that you intended to do. So SDM, what is your definition of a real, loyal Rangers fan? Real fans are the only who physically attacked and spat on protesters outside the main door in November 2006 whilst singing the banned Billy Boys and claiming that the protesters (without a drop of irony I may add) were nothing more that ****** bastards? Once again a statement from SDM that leaves us with more questions than answers. Cammy F
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Iââ?¬â?¢d like to question a few points raised by SMDââ?¬â?¢s response to the ââ?¬Ë?We Deserve Better Campaignââ?¬â?¢ and have noticed that he refused to answer any the points put forward and instead, chose to try to deepen divisions amongst the support. SDM claims that none of us questioning him are ââ?¬Ë?not exactly captains of industryââ?¬â?¢, by God David, thatââ?¬â?¢s a rather egocentric put down that one. So anyone that questions you doesnââ?¬â?¢t know what they are talking about? Jeez, talk about egosââ?¬Â¦Ã¢â?¬Â¦ SDM talks of the loyalty of the support being crucial to the long-term longevity of the club, but does he expects us (PAYING CUSTOMERS) to show blind, deaf and dumb loyalty? At a time when he is asking for the support to be united, he is marginalising those who chose to question him. Does questioning the way the club has been run now make you disloyal and not a ââ?¬Ë?real Rangers fanââ?¬â?¢? Sorry Mr Murray, but most of those questioning you are the most LOYAL Rangers fans I know. By implying that those who have the audacity to question you are disloyal, you are actually creating divisions, something I believe that you intended to do. So SDM, what is your definition of a real, loyal Rangers fan? Real fans are the only who physically attacked and spat on protesters outside the main door in November 2006 whilst singing the banned Billy Boys and claiming that the protesters (without a drop of irony I may add) were nothing more that ****** bastards? Once again a statement from SDM that leaves us with more questions than answers. Cammy F
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One of the few players we actually have in our squad that can BEAT an opponent with the ball at his feet - I'd give him a run in the team wide left before the likes of Adam, McCulloch, Lafferty et al Cammy F
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Mendes and Davis to a certain extent haven't exactly set the heather of fire either recently. In fact, I would say that Mendes hasn't had a good game since the 4-2 victory at parkhead. Both these players show glimpses of what they are capable of during games, but never consistantly. Would dropping Barry Ferguson improve these players? I suppose the only way to find out is to play Davis and Mendes in the centre, but I don;t believe for a minute that it is a certainty to pay off. As for selling Fergie, I don't think we'd get the required �£3.8M for him, so it would be sell Fergie PLUS a-n-other....... Cammy F
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Seconded.... Cammy F
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2009 was merely hours old when we, the Rangers support got an insight into how fraught this year is going to be. It is not merely the fact that we are willing to sell our top scorer (for Ã?£3.5M), but the indication that ALL of our players are being hocked around by ‘agent’ McLies. It appears that Mr Bain has been caught with his trousers round his ankles, and Mr Murray has kicked his exposed arse for his comments to McLies. Now, trying to decipher the words of three untrustworthy sources (SDM, Bain and McLies), it does appear that Bain informed McLies that Rangers would be open to offers for some of our ‘star players’. McLies saw this as a green light to hock our players to EPL clubs, SDM denied this part, but refused to deny that we are trying to sell at least one player. Bain has had his arse kicked when in reality, he should have been sacked (a novel way to save many precious pound notes Mr Murray). The whole episode is a mess, and highly embarrassing. So where exactly are we? Well, the facts speak for themselves – we appear to have a requirement to generate circa Ã?£4M pounds immediately. The easiest way to raise this money is to sell an ‘asset’. Problem for us is due to a decades worth of asset stripping by SDM, the only assets we have left are Ibrox and our players. The reason for this urgent requirement are not forthcoming – SDM doesn’t like to keep us abreast with what’s happening behind the scenes, but we aren’t selling players other than it being a necessity. Now, the arguments and merits of who should be sold have been the major talking point since the news regarding the Boyd to Birmingham story broke. It appears that the fans want Boyd to stay, but at what cost? Is keeping Boyd worth losing Pedro Mendes? Let’s fact facts here, we are going to lose at least one of our top players in this transfer window as Bain appears to be nowhere close to shifting the 10 fringe players we MUST remove from the books. Another worrying sound-bite from Rangers is that we only require to move on one top player this transfer window. What happens in the summer, if our worst fears are recognised and we finish 2nd again and don’t ensure automatic qualification to next seasons CL? Will be then be forced to sell more of our top players to ‘balance the books’? I would say this would be a highly likely scenario. However, Kris Boyd’s refreshing reluctance to leave Rangers highlights another issue. What if we CAN’T sell a player for the required fee? This is why we must be told the reason as to why we require this money so urgently and be informed if we have a ‘plan B’ (I know, I know, SDM doesn’t have a plan A never mind a plan B). I think we all realise that we need this money to keep the bank from our door. We currently have an overdraft of circa Ã?£25M with HBOS who are currently being taken over. Is this a token, goodwill payment to ensure that the bank don’t call in the entire overdraft? And what if they do call in the overdraft? These are worrying times people, with little or no answers / information forthcoming from our Custodian. So as it stands today, we are no further forward and aren’t likely to be enlightened by the powers that be at Ibrox. There are claims and counter claims regarding Boyd and Birmingham, but in my opinion, this deal is dead (for the moment). Allan Hutton’s deal to Spurs was on then off, then back on again. The Hutton deal was different as there was enough profit for SDM to give Hutton a ‘sweetener’ or pay-off, depending on how you see it. The figures surrounding the proposed Boyd deal, given that Killie are due 20%, leaves little room for negotiation and Boyd will be unlikely to receive a sweetener. From what I know, he wouldn’t accept one anyway – he is living the dream, playing for the only club he wants to play for and holds all the aces here. I expect this deal will only be reconstructed if SDM can convince Boyd that him staying at Rangers will be more detrimental to the club than his staying. Lets not kid ourselves here, at least one of our top players will leave as well as (hopefully) as many as 10 ‘fringe’ players. This may depend on us ‘waving’ fees for these players like we did with Burke. This exercise is to reduce the squad and the wage bill (tell me again why Martin Bain is still in a job, as this appears to be an annual ‘cull’). This off course will be not help our cause in trying to retain our domestic cups and in our efforts to regain the SPL title but financial mismanagement (again) is forcing our hand and will eventually herald the requirement to sell more players IF we don’t win the SPL thus guaranteeing CL monies next season. The most frustrating point in this whole sorry mess is that there is nothing we can do to resolve this situation. SDM is in control until he decides that it is time to sell up and move on. Some journalists are saying that this is the reason for the January cull, that a buyer has been found but they are unwilling to take over until the wage bill is deemed ‘manageable’. This is wishful thinking folks as I don’t think there is a buyer anywhere in site at the moment. This isn’t the time to be spunking 100’s of millions on a football club, even if the club is The Rangers. To have any success in moving SDM we must come together as a force. At the moment we are a disorganised, disjointed and disinterested support. We actually have to take our share of the blame for this current mess. We have sat back and let apathy rule and this has allowed SDM to continue his raping of the club. Now, trying not be overly melodramatic, but this is as a serious financial situation that Rangers Football Club has been in. Most experts believe that it’ll get worse before it gets better and many companies and organisations are rethinking the value of investing in sport through sponsorship, so this avenue may also bleed dry in the near future. Could the early days of 2009 be remembered as the beginning of the end of Rangers Football Club? Only time and history will tell. Cammy F
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But Walter Smith isn't responsible for the finance of the club - SDM is. If SDM wanted to, he could have refused WS, PLG, DA, AMc any money to spend on players. He is the one who sanctions 'transfer funds'. He is the one that has to ensure that we have enough money to finance these funds and the wages. We haven't. The buck stops with SDM. I asked the question in another thread, but it is worth repeating. Lat season, due to incomeing transfers, CL + UEFA Cup money and record season ticket sales, we MUST have generated ~�£40M - where the fook has that money gone? Cammy F
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SDM will be so proud of you - blame everyone bar him..... Accountability is a word that SDM doesn't know the meaning off.... We are in the shit, not for the first time, and there is only one man responsible for this and thats SDM. Cammy F
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Yes - we are fooked financially - if it wasn't to happen now, it would have to have happened next summer (and it will believe me, more players will be sold off in the summer). Cammy F
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Howe long to we see SDM and Bain on Cash In The Attic and Antiques Road Show trying to sell off whats left at Ibrox? Cammy F - I Fancy The Sofa From The Blue Room Loyal RSC
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Just for the record, Walter Smith's net spend since returning to Rangers (if we receive �£3.75M for Boyd) is just over �£1M..... Cammy F
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http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/hea...ent_damage.php As Kris Boyd travelled south to complete his �£3.75m transfer to Birmingham City, Lafferty - who was due to replace the outgoing striker in attack - left Murray Park with his knee in a brace after he was victim of a late challenge in a bounce match against Morton. He will undergo a scan to assess the extent of the damage but will definitely miss the Homecoming Scottish Cup third-round tie against St Johnstone at McDiarmid Park next week. Depending on the severity of the injury, the 21-year-old could be absent from a minimum of two weeks to a maximum of six, depending on whether the ligament has been strained, torn or simply bruised. Cammy F
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As a few have said, this isn't about the sale of Boyd, it's the signals that are being sent out. If the footballing world is to believed, then EVERY Rangers player is up for sale. I am one of Boyd's critics, and I can't say that I am truly uspet that he is leaving (he wouldn't have been first on my list, but hey, there you go) and I was more upset when the likes of Arteta, Albertz, Gazza, Laudrup, Mols, RDB, Tugay, Gio, Numan et al were sold, or let go...... This is more about the financial state of OUR club - it is more to do with the future (if there is one) of OUR club - that is far more important that Kris Boyd (or any other player). Cammy F
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I know what you are saying Craig, but our first 11 is so fragile that 2 or 3 injuries (or players sold) then we are replacing them with DROSS. SDM has killed the team, he has almost killed the CLUB. If one thing comes out of this, it may be a watershed for the fans. Maybe, just maybe the majority will wake up and notice that SDM is fookin killing the club WE love. Cammy F
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After the OF defeat, a few of our RSC decided that we'd go out and drown our sorrows and have a wee drinking session. After the usual talk of Xmas, New Year hopes and expectations, the discussion turned to Rangers FC. I am known on our RSC as being the pessimist and a clear Anti-Murray supporter, the rest of the party were split, with slightly more supporting Murray. One of them asked me what I'd say / do if SDM walked into the pub were drinking in. Without thinking, I said that I wouldn't say anything, I'd just drag the parrisite out into the street and kick him the length of the high street. I them went on to say that I no longer hated SDM, I had moved on to dispising him. I have just had a text from the guy involved in the conversation and he has said that he would now help! It appears that the smokescrenes are no longer SDM. It appears that the rank and file are starting to see through your promises as the moombeams appear further away than ever. Cammy F
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Yet the only way to ensure CL money is to win the SPL. Anyway, what happend to the CL, UEFA Cup and transfer fees for CC and Hutton? Theres a nice ~�£40M right there...... add that to record season ticket sales, you've got to ask (once again), where's all OUR money gone SDM? Cammy F
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Can't agree with the midfield situation Craig - this was the problem last season, we didn't have any cover for Ferguson when he was injured (and playing when clearly injured). Same situation this season - say Mendes or Davis suffer an injury, who replaces them? On paper, we have a decent squad (numbers wise) but in reality, we have very little quality wise. 2 or 3 injuries, or 2 or 3 players sold, we are into the dross. Cammy F
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But surely, this is what we've been doing since AMc took over from DA? We've sold our best players and replaced them with players no where near the required quality. In terms of players, we have been on a downward spiral since DA was 'moved upstairs'. Name one player in todays squad who would have gotten a game in DA's treble winning team (or AM's treble winning team)? EDIT - addition - It is safe to say that all players now bought by Rangers are bought with a view to moving them on and moving them on quickly. This is what we have become, the footballing equivilent of an EBAY trader. Cammy F
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If what I've heard is correct, Lovenkrands will sign for Rangers next week. Cammy F
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Peter L�¶venkrand�´s contract at Schalke 04 was today released after he was banned to the amateurs. Now he is a free agent. Replacement for Boyd? Cammy F
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The biggest fear is that any player sold WON'T be replaced full-stop. This is clearly a cost-cutting excercise, so why would SDM free up any of the money brought in? Cammy F
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If the major issue is the wage bill, why isn't the man responsible for contracts, wages, fees etc in the spotlight? Wonder what percentage of pay increase / bonus he'll get this year once he's sold all our players? Cammy F - Murray & Bain GTF Loyal RSC
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In truth, its been the state of our great club for approaching a decade. Cammy F
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Again........ Cammy F
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Yes, it would appear that we are in more financial trouble than any of us imagined. As indicated, the entire first team squad are 'up for sale' and any offer will be discussed and a deal done if the money is correct. I heard someone (who knows more about the financial side than I could ever) say a few weeks ago that we are in more trouble than Woolworths. If that isn't a wake up call to the support, then nothing will be. Cammy F - There May Be Trouble Ahead Loyal RSC