CammyF

Don't think that I stated that Green saved the club, just pointed out that he put his (or someone elses) money where his month was whilst others hummed and hawed.... As for sticking up for the club I was alluding to him challanging the illeagal signing ban, refusing to give up any of our titles etc. It is my opinion that if SDM of the likes had still been in charge that they would have continued down the 'dignified silence' route and allowed us to be shafted even more than we have been. I realise the the whole Green subject is very emotive, I just believe that NO ONE has shown that they deserve to be the custodian of our club, well not that I have seen anyway. Cammy F

I finally get some free time and the inclination to post and bingo, down goes the forum. Coincidence? Canny F - paranoid loyal rfc :-)

Agreed but does ally :-)

Agreed. Given that all our defenders are dropping like flies at the moment Daly might be required at centre half at the weekend

Boys are great Pete and doc and keeping me busy - hence the lack if posts over the last few years. Still read the forum when I can as gersnet has and imo will always be one of the better rangers sites.

I originally wrote this over the weekend and didn’t get an opportunity to post it due to the database issues that GersNet unfortunately suffered. Even after the recent developments with Imran Ahmad taking the club to court for the sum of £3.4M I am still going ahead and posting this. There was a time (I am sure some of you may remember) where I would have been all over the recent shenanigans surrounding the power struggle for our club, but a few things have changed in the last few years which have meant that I have taken a step back and no longer having my finger on the pulse of what is going on. This is something that I am not ashamed to admit to, so apologies if anything written here is inaccurate or not up-to-date. Now, that doesn’t mean that I don’t care, I do, passionately, like we all do. However, for the best part of a decade I have typed warnings that we as a club were heading for disaster. Looking back, this ‘campaign’ and losing battle took some of the fun and enjoyment out of following Rangers and it alienated me from the vast majority of Rangers fans who refused to believe that our club was in any danger. The mess we currently find ourselves in can be traced straight back to Sir David Murray’s door. Without his reckless mismanagement of the club, there would not have been Craig Whyte, there would not have been administration, there would not have been liquidation, there would not have been Duff & Phelps and there would not have been Charles Green etc, etc, etc…. Now, this is not going to be a customary Cammy F rant, I am a changed person. For those lucky enough not to remember my inane rantings, I would rant tirelessly about SDM and basically anything related (or otherwise) to our great club. I hope my old Gersent friends forgive me and let me reminisce a little. As a fresh-faced youth growing up in the sticks I had two passions, football and music and my choice in both was hardly ‘en-vogue’ at the time. Rangers, under legend John Greig were going through one of the worst periods of their recent history (until this last year and a half) and the first wave of Punk and come and gone, but this kid passionately followed both. I spent years follow following Rangers and punk bands to all corners of these isles and beyond meeting up with many kindred souls some who I still like to think of as friends. Now, it was on a rare occasion that I found someone who supported Rangers and liked Punk music. To most they appeared mutely exclusive. There was one day that I was chased from Ibrox for wearing a Sex Pistols ‘God Save The Queen’ t-shirt. Ah, the naivety of youth! However as time marched on and times and attitudes changed, you began to see familiar faces at Ibrox and at concerts. In fact, about a decade ago I have the pleasure of seeing the Dead Kennedys at King Tut’s and met many people there whom I would also meet at Rangers games. In fact, I would take this opportunity to say that if you ever get the chance to see the likes of Rancid, Bad Religion, Cockney Rejects or The Angelic Upstarts do so as you won’t be disappointed. To witness The Upstarts blasting out Soldier, Green Fields Of France and Last Night Another Soldier is always a pleasure. So for longer than I care to remember I slowly but surely got totally engrossed in Rangers and Punk music and did so until just over two years ago when we were blessed with our twin boys. The boys were born dangerously premature and were both in hospital for a while. These events changed my perspectives overnight. I still passionately cared about Rangers but I admit that they fell down the pecking order. Our smallest went through an operation in Yorkhill just prior to being released from hospital after a torturous 15 weeks (99 days) on the day that we clinched our 54th title at Kilmarnock. In fact we heard that he was fine and coming back to the ward just as Kyle Lafferty scored the opening goal and we were 3-0 up by the time he was delivered back to the ward. Conveniently you could see the ever impressive structure of Ibrox from the wards window and I spent hours with him telling him endless stories of past glories witnessed at Ibrox and beyond. In fact, we took the bigger of our boys who had been released from hospital by this time to Ibrox to see the return of the victorious players / management team and the wee bugger slept through it all. Apologies, I digress. I decided there and then that my words of warning had fallen on deaf ears and whatever happened with Rangers was out of my control and that there was nothing I could do to change what was becoming inevitability. I stood watching the celebrations and knew that this was the end of Rangers as we knew and loved the club. I understood that all the glories were coming to an end and that soon we would run aground and everything would fall apart. The consequences of administration and liquidation are still being felt and I fear / predict that we will still not fully realise the ramifications for sometime. So the current infighting, power-struggle, call it what you will is frustrating and is in danger of ripping this institution apart, something that our many enemies have failed to do. The rhetoric that is being thrown around is disgusting and it now appears that the vocal element have pinned their colours to the anti-green mast. Now before going any further, I do not believe EITHER camp have demonstrated enough to convince anyone that they DESERVE to be the custodians of this club going forward. I have time for Green simply because he put his (or someone else’s) money where his month was when we needed someone to lead us out of liquidation. He also showed that he was no pushover and stuck up for us and club on more than a few occasions. We also have a situation where even the two most prolific and well known Rangers bloggers are backing different sides and populate their blogs with reasons to support their preferred option. I will give them credit as both have put up stern defences outlining why they are supporting Green or McColl, All the other ‘groups’ that have emerged since those days intrigue me, as they, like Green had the opportunity to purchase Rangers for £5M (in fact they could have gotten Rangers for £1 from SDM), but for whatever reason, they baulked. It would be safe to assume that they baulked due to the uncertainty of the ‘Big Tax Case’. Is it coincidence that once we had ‘won’ the Big Tax case, everyone and their dog wants to own Rangers?. The latest and very public attempt to have Rangers removed from Green’s control is hard for me to support as I don’t see how they plan to fund the takeover and the ongoing costs of running Rangers. So what’s the point of all of the above? Nothing really, other than allowing this oldtimer to reminisce a little, to remind everyone that we as a support were never privy to the truth from the boardroom and that we are in danger of doing what our enemies have failed to do. Also, there are two sides to every story and personally, I will never believe a word written by Rangers hater Keith Jackson and his Rangers hating paper The Daily Record. In conclusion, it is this fans opinion that if we were as vocal and venomous in our mistrust of the SDM regime, we might not be in this current mess. Cammy F – Punks Not Dead and neither are Rangers (just yet).

Sorry, it is not just about Saturdays result - McCoists cup record (as manager) is woeful, he is tactally nieve, his team is not improving & continue to make the same mistakes & he appears unable to motivate the players The young players who have broken through and ahown signs of promise jave not improved, in fact some have gone backwards. Ally McCoist is a Rangers legend, but is not the man to take us foward as Rangrs manager. Cammy F

Wait for the usual lists of excuses - simply not good enough. Ally McCoist, Rangerd legend, Rangers through and through and pne of the greatest goalscorers in Scottish footballing history. But good enough to be manager of this great club? Think the answer is definitely NOT

If we agree to join the SPL or SPL 2 it would show a weakness that would forever be exploited by Liewell and the likes. Whilst financially it may be worth considering I hope the board tell them where to stick their invitation. Cammy F

No, I was thinking the exact same thing. From the sparse details we have been privy to, terminating his contract appears very harsh. With this, the clear out of the coaching / scouting staff and the ambiguity of the Alexander contract negotiations, you have to wonder what US going on at the club. Worrying times?????

Lasting legacy of the PLG era was Sasa Papac his only decent signing. Defensively we were shocking under PLG And he appeared unwilling to address this obvious failing. David Murray's last throw of the dice that went tragically wrong for all concerned

There was little or no excuse for deploying 4-5-1 formations whilst we were in the SPL, adopting this formation in SFL 3 is inexcusable. With all due respect to our opponents, we should be far superior in fitness, skill, speed, tactics, footballing ability. However, in reality we are not. This should be ringing alarm bells. It appears that the manager can not get the best out of the squad he has at his disposal. We all understand the mitigating circumstances surrounding the team / club at the start of the season but the least we should expect is a team that plays decent football and demonstrates an ongoing improvement - we see neither. If the manager can not deliver this then maybe, just may be it is time that he was removed and replaced. However I believe that ally will remain in charge until next season (at least), and we will have to suffer the same tactics (sic), woeful performances etc for a while yet.

Much to-do about nothing in my humble opinion

Couldn't give a toss about Scotland but same goes for all international football. Gave up on Scotland mid-80s for various reasons which I've detailed many times on here lol - but don't get me started on the tartan army :-) Clammy F

Great statement from the board

Boness game was called off about an hour before kick off due to a water logged pitch replay scheduled for next saturday

Looks very much like it Ian - just spoken to a friend who is a pars fan and he is under the impression that this pars are no longer

For what it's worth, I fully believe that we will receive an invite back into the SPL during the close season which the Rangers board will accept due to the financial aspects of being in the top flight - I won't support such a discussion but can /would understand the reasoning behind accepting !

Where's the disagree button lol

If Rangers accepted any offer, whilst not supporting it, I would fully understand why it was accepted and I would still go to ibrox every other Saturday but would boycott away games

The mighty Boness United travel to Linlithgow in the Scottish Cup. They played each other two weeks ago with linlithgow winning a great game 3-2 . Hopefully Boness can get revenge on saturday

Laurie Cunningham was a wonderful player & my uncle played in the same west brom team as Cunningham and rated him as one of the best players he played with or against. Tragic end to his life as well.

Agreed Frankie that's why I fear that if an offer is extended to Rangers, especially with the lifting of the signing embargo, money wise Mr Green will find it hard to resist. I just wonder what the fans would think of Green taking the offer? Good business decision? Capitulation?

A few non-rangers supporting workmates were having a discussion today around league reconstruction and they believed that no matter what format reconstruction took, that Rangers should be fast-paced straight back into the top flight as off next season. With the possibility of Hearts & Dunfermline not surviving until next season, their thinking was that the Rangers pound was a necessity to ensure other clubs stay afloat and to help attract new / fresh sponsors, an improved SKY deal and new investment These work colleagues support teams who's fans overwhelmingly and in no uncertain terms told their clubs that if they voted for Rangers to remain in the premier league this time last season that they would boycott their own clubs. They were also never tired of telling me that they didn't need (nor want) Rangers. Who times change! These same fans promised their chairman's that they would, if Rangers were banished, flock back to games and replace the Rangers pound. We all know that this never materialized. Knowing I was listening to this conversation they asked me if I would support a move to get Rangers promoted back into the top flight. I immediately stated that I would not, under any circumstances accept such an invitation and I hope that the board of Rangers have the same opinion and determination to get back through the league's without any help from struggling clubs.I know that the public statements from in and around Rangers all say that we are on a journey and want to complete the journey. However privately I fear that MrGreens resolve may be tested if such an invitation was extended (I hope I am wrong) At present I fear that we do not have the playing or coaching staff required to make any sort of impression in the Premier league and we would have no time to strengthen given the imposed signing ban. Once we do get back to the top flight this is one bear who will never be at another away game - I may be in a minority of one, but these Rangers hating clubs will not see another penny never mind pound of my money. This was not a decision I took lightly, as I loved visiting grounds like Easter road, tynie, rugby park etc. I just feel that there has Bern a recent surge of opinion from media, fans and players all expressing support and a desire to have us back sooner rather than later. So here is my hypothetical question - would you ; Support an invitation back into the SPL? Support an invitation back into the SPL but only if the signing ban was lifted? Or tell them where to stick their invite? Cammy F

I might be able to help with the games from the 87 season - only issue will be trying to find the bus videos there are on and don't have a video to play them on....!