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GPL Predictions Bluebear54's GPL 2024/25: Rangers vs St Johnstone
CammyF replied to Rousseau's topic in Rangers Chat
Mutiny in the prediction thread. Sack @Rousseau 😀 There'll be banners in here for the next game and I plan a walkout. Anarchy -
The UB didn't move any fans, the club moved them so those affected should direct their ire at the club. It's also worth remembering that you don't own your seat at Ibrox, you pay to use it from season to season. It isn't your property. Nobody asked anyone to feel sorry for them, but there is no excuse for people throwing stuff at them and the club must act and ban those responsible.
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You might have a point there, and it might explain why the banners displayed were applauded, but I feel, and have done for over 40 years, we as a support will never be united and are reluctant to push for change. Conservative is a term that could be used. Back in Murrays days, the fanzines (Follow Follow and No1) had a wider circulation than the match day programme. I wouldn't claim to know what % of fans bought them. It was contributors in those publications who were questioning where we were headed. The initial protest against Murray was a spontaneous event, the attack was a reaction to the protest and was celebrated by Murray on the club's official website claiming they sang "One David Murray" when in reality they sang the (newly) banned Billy Boys. The UB and RSA protest was widely published on socials but again I wouldn't claim to know the % of fans who are active on social media. The booing of those leaving can be defended but the throwing of objects and verbal abuse can't. It'll be interesting to see what the.club say. Ignoring it is in my opinion, equal to condoning it.
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Not to say I won't participate in any future protests, however I'm past all that. I expanded too much of my time and life "protesting" when Murray was in charge. The abuse those few who stuck their head above the parapet received was unacceptable but not surprising. I've never felt so detached from the club and section of our fans, including in those days and during the spivs reign where I deliberately took a back seat / neutral view. Its worth noting that the UBs were the 1st to call the spivs out and took abuse for that as well. This just seems to me, that it'll go the same way as it did under Murray and we all know how that ended up.
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I saw/witnessed different to be honest. The banners received applause in all stands and people left all stands in the 55th minute. 2 next to me in BF4 who were abused by some others for leaving (those who abused them, left on the 77th minute). Nobody was a winner today - lucky if there was 35,000 in attendance, protestors left on 55mins, vast majority of fans left by 85mins This is just the start, throwing objects at those leaving is the low point. Hopefully those involved will be identified and banned. Or will this board act like Murray and defend and congratulation those who attack protestors?
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GPL Predictions Bluebear54's GPL 2024/25: Rangers vs St Johnstone
CammyF replied to Rousseau's topic in Rangers Chat
Rangers 3 v 0 St Johnstone Cerny FGS -
You know that for certain? Or are you speculating?
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So you don't know the answer to my question. Just say so, none of us does. The chat when the new contract was offered a d signed was that the sum to sack him was 6 months wages. How accurate that is is open to debate. You have once again conveniently ignored the cost of not sacking him, why not address that? I'm hearing we sent back almost 1000 tickets for the game on Thursday, in my reckoning, that's unheard of. The manager, therefore the club, are losing fans - without fans, there is no Rangers.
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What elephant in the room. Do you know how much it would cost to sack Clement? If so, please share. Do you know how much we'll lose through matchday income, hospitality etc if we keep him and results continue to worsen? Or the impact of losing a generation of fans? You don't, you're using an unkown as an excuse to not sack a manager with our worst away record in 19 years and accusing those who want him sacked as being "hard of thinking".