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Utterly depressing to get beaten by such a poor team. Too many things today (and this season) are just not making sense. I feel for the new additions as they genuinely look like they don't know what they are meant to be doing. There might be good players there but until MB defines a clear plan we'll never know. Whilst I'm at it... Can someone tell me why Ryan Jack was playing closer to the LB position as we got overrun in midfield? Cantwell and Raskin are not being used properly. Why did we make so many subs? I get we are chasing the game but the multiple changes kills tge small bit of momentum we had built up. This morning I watched Ange's Spurs team rip Burnley apart using a system that is different to the one used at Celtic. Both had one thing in common though. Players pressing together with energy and players who understand what they are meant to be doing. F**King raging.

We need to press better and as a team. Once they get through the press they gave bloody acres of room. Big 45 minutes. Over to you Mr Beale.

I'm utterly confused. We are getting overrun in midfield when they get through our weak as water press. Why is Ryan Jack effectively playing left back? Abada is good but do we need 3 players on that side? Confused.com

Very strong bench incidentally.

Who hasn't?

Looks like Tav providing the width on the right with Jack tucking in and Matondo on the left with Sterling playing primarily as a defender. Glad Roofe is playing. Big 90 minutes ahead. Still think Dessers is going to have a big say on today's game. He been up and down since coming in but for me has shown enough to suggest he's a clever player. Today he's playing with a very clever player in Roofe so hopefully they can be on the same wavelength.

Still waiting for Sakalas shot to go the other side of the post....😟😟

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good point Rousseau

Kind of sums my original point. He's about 46/47 in this clip. Brilliant clip BTW. Apologies for hijacking this Tifo related thread. Sorry guys.

Maybe a classic player? Or manager? On the manager front...I was reading an article online about Jock Wallace the other day and I was shocked to discover that he was only 60 when he passed away in 1996. That meant that he was only about 41 when he completed the treble in 1978. It just shows you how times have changed as I always have this image of JW being in his late 50's/early 60's in his first spell at Rangers and then being an elder statesman during his 2nd spell. I guess 41 year olds looked different back then...

I doubt if Roofe is fit enough to play a full game therefore I would start him and ask him to do as much damage as possible in 60/65 minutes. Not sure whether I would start with Matondo. I like the idea of him arriving on the pitch with the game more open and stretched. It's a tough one and I do not envy the task Beale has got on his hands. I just hope he's more pro-active as opposed to reactive.

Getting back to the EL, it's quite a good draw IMO as it gives us the potential safety blanket of the Conference League after Christmas. It will be interesting to see how the fixtures are laid out. I wouldn't mind a game against the Cypriots early (Game 1 or 2) to get points on the board and gain some confidence and momentum.

Regardless of who he picks, IMO Beale has to go for it and be positive from the first whistle. Forget the cautious crap and focus on what we can do to them as opposed to what they might do to us. A victory brings two things. It gives our manager and squad a shot in the arm after the CL debacle and it also plants more seeds of doubt in their fans eyes about Rodgers. Celtic will be without CCV for the next 7/8 weeks. He's their best defender by a country mile so we need to exploit any slips during that time.

I hope you're wrong Gonzo but I do get the feeling that MB somewhat overthinks things a bit too much. People can say what they want about Postacoglu but he had a plan and it seemed that he brought in players to fit that plan. MB has bought a lot of players but as of yet we've seen very little continuity and identity in the team.

I agree Bill. His Rangers career seems to be have been defined by some high profile mistakes in certain games but on the whole he's been quite steady. I think he's more than capable of coming in and doing a job on the left side of our defence IMO. Especially against SPL fodder.

Rangers 3 Them 1 FGS Roofe

Colak 2.5 million Fashion 4 million Kamara 5 million Tillman fee 1 million That means our net spend this summer is not much at all.

I don't see the point of getting Harry Souttar. That would mean we would have 3 right sided CB's.

Good Luck to GK. For 50k, he was brilliant for us when he was on it. A 5 million profit is also welcome for a guy that hasn't played much football of late.

Decent shout Bill

I need to hang on to something after last night...

It's the modern way I'm afraid. I said it before but this is the most analysed squad in our history.

Hard to get too excited at this moment about the draw but I'll take some solace in some recent history. In the 2021-22 season we got beaten by a poor Malmo side in the CL qualifiers and then lost our first 2 EL games. We were rank and looked out of our depth until we turned it around and created some of the best memories I have of Rangers competing in European football. Keep the faith guys.

Still a bit numb from last but for what it's worth... *********Butland********* ****Goldson***Souttar**** Tav***************Sterling **********Jack*********** ***Raskin*****Cantwell*** **Dessers******Matondo** **********Roofe**********

I was referring more to finding an identity with this new bunch of players. Beale has primarily worked with someone else's players for the bulk of his stewardship therefore I'm willing to give him time. Will they come good? I'm not sure tbh. There seems to be more questions than answers at the moment but what is the alternative? Ditch a manager at the start of the season>take time to find a new manager>derail our season>hand another title to them. In one hand I'm hugely disappointed by the what happened tonight but on the other hand, I'm not surprised. We are simply not ready to compete with this level of team as IMO PSV are the standout team in the section of the qualifiers. They have very effective front players and will give teams a decent game in the CL. Just go and bloody win on Sunday. Weirdly enough, I feel that this result tonight has made me more confident about beating them. We need a reaction and I can't think of better game to show it.