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SSN still "awaiting confirmation". It's not true until Kirsty says so.

I don't believe anything until it's on SSN... ..or the Rangers website (usually in that order, because Rangers can be a tad late in getting info out).

Aye, you're right -- but that's not exactly what I meant...

"he did ok last time"...?

None of the names mentioned excite me. They're all old-fashioned, reactive British managers that don't really have a clue about the way the game is played in Europe or the way the game is going. (Rodgers is one of the few that does know this philosophy, unfortunately...). I think we need a German-style coach: they have a modern passing, proactive philosophy, and an intensity that will adapt to our game. Wagner and Farke are doing very well at Huddersfield and Norwich, respectively. Does Thomas Tuchel not want to take a step down... or Nagelsmann?? I do see, and accept, the need for a 'steady hand' but I can't really see that 'steady hand' taking us forward. Moreover, Rodgers will trounce any 'steady hand', IMO...

Jack was playing very well last night, recovering the ball 4-5 times from what I recall; he was tidy on the ball too. He was stupid at the red card. Jack's not your new Miler is he?

The refereeing was abysmal -- you couldn't write it. It's a penalty, albeit a soft one, but he dithers for ages before going over to the linesman. Kirk steps/stamps (whatever?) towards Jack's foot several times. Jack pushes, or certainly makes a movement with his legs -- not sure what it was tbh? -- and Kirk goes down holding his face!? There's a big stamash, that takes an age to sort out -- the players weren't even that aggressive -- before Jack gets a yellow. 2 minutes pass -- still waiting to take the penality -- before the referee stops and goes over to give Jack a red. He probably deserved a red, but that refereeing is just incompetent. It's not the reason we couldn't see out the game, but it certainly contributed to the way the game ended: anyone waiting 9 minutes to take a penalty is under serious pressure, and the 10 men and the players all bunched up field. The game was drifting anyway, and was slipping well before. I've lost patience. Ironically, I don't think it was Pedro's fault: We were humiliated, despite playing OK, against Motherwell and I fully expected a reaction; there was none. I'd sack every player, but ultimately it has to be the manager that takes the blame. We are utterly demoralised. It's only going to take a new manager to refresh us.

My patience is waver thin. I'm not seeing the progress any more. Is it not the DoF's role to now pick the next manager?

Interestingly, he said that we'll change to a 1-2 triangle, instead of a 2-1; so it'll be Dorrans and Holt in front of Jack holding. I think a few were suggesting that.

Pena is injured. I think there is a mistake there: Alves is playing, according to the other line-up: [tweet]923244196177305601[/tweet]

4 goals in 9 games is not bad for a player that "is garbage and offers nothing"... The Motherwell game was probably the first game I've seen where Pena didn't get up to support Morelos; their link-up play has been great at times.

Alves' retrospective ban was not unexpected, but the lack of consistency is particularly galling and infuriating.

I know the Michael Laudrup suggestion was in jest on your timeline, Frankie, but that would be an inspiring choice. He fit into Swansea's philosophy very well, adapting what they had; he's won leagues and reached cup finals; and needs to rebuild his reputation. He'd need money, though.

I'd take McLean; decent player that knows how to play in the league. At the very least it weakens them. But...

I think you mean:

I agree Dorrans played his best game against Hamilton with Holt beside him, but could that have been a one off? I like Jack a lot, so I wouldn't like to see him dropped. Putting Holt or Dorrans in the No.10 slot is unappealing to me: neither can really cause damage in the box like Pena can. A Holt or Dorrans with Pena's aerial ability would be some No.10! A 3-5-2 has always sounded intriguing, but PC seems to use it as a defensive system. A midfield three of Dorrans, Jack and Holt sounds interesting; Pena could play further forward too, as a second striker so he doesn't have to get involved in the build-up -- he's not a bad presser, Pena.

Post #20 above.

As Bill -- and FS -- touched on above, is the success we want for our team achievable in the course of a window? I'm not sure what those advocating Pedro's removal are hoping for? Many suggest it'll take a few windows, but we don't give them that now -- our minds are made up after our first defeat.

Is Dick a stop-gap? I'm not too enthusiastic about FdB...

I think I'd be moaning regardless. Like I've said, both Cardoso and Moult went down with head-knocks, drawing blood, and he played on. Irrespective of the result, it was abysmal refereeing and dangerous. We were dealing with the physicality well - Cardoso and Morelos certainly gave it out too -- until they scored a couple; then we chucked it.

People are rightly furious at the standard of Refereeing, but I don't think we're -- or hope not -- suggesting that it's the reason we lost. We played well, but didn't take our chances.

Koeman's now available... I don't think you can compare last season and this. Last season's spell was not his squad, and we were playing with youngsters for the majority of it. There's definite progress; but it's clearly not enough for those that expect us to be beating everyone under the sun. We do need to start showing consistency in our results, for longer spells.

I get frustrated at the result influencing the perceived performance of the players. Just because we win doesn't mean they all played well, and vice versa, just because we lose doesn't mean they were all trash, and deserving to be "removed from the club" forthwith. Windass was poor, in taking chances -- he hit the 'keeper twice from what I recall, when putting it to the corner is a guaranteed goal; he needs to work on instinct and shooting -- and perhaps his 'fight', -- which only appears on these threads when we lose -- but he got into these chance-scoring positions. I was disappointed with Pena, but he should've actually scored too; he was also quite poor against St Johnstone, but scored twice. I don't see how the Manager is responsible for a player's, or players', inability to hit the back of the net from 6 yards? The Manager's only responsible for getting them up to that point. BUT, PC will have to take responsibility for this, as is his job, and he will lose it if these results continue. The Referee was atrocious -- two bad head knocks that drew blood, and he played on?! -- and although it played it's part -- it's always going to be easier with a man advantage... sometimes -- it was not the reason we lost. We lost because we couldn't take our chances. They did.