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I'm struggling to get excited about this Gerard link.

Inexperience shouldn't rule anyone out, but they have to demonstrate that they have ideas, and principles that they can implement; I'm struggling to see what his ideas are, his philosophy. Admittedly, I've not seen/ read anything about his work with the Liverpool Academy. 

I'd be more comfortable if I knew a little about what he'd bring. At the minute, it just seems like we're basing it on his playing career; stellar though it is, it doesn't necessarily translate into a successful managerial career.

And then the experienced #2 crap annoys me too. I really don't care if they are 'experienced' in the game. The game has changed. What worked for Gary Mac, doesn't work nowadays... IMO, of course. 

Admittedly, getting the players 'up for the game' -- as vague as that is -- is probably enough in this league, embarrassingly, with the gulf in quality and finances. However, it'll not beat a Rodgers side. And, it'll not do anything in Europe. 

Turned into a bit of a rant... sorry  

7 hours ago, rbr said:

Dont know whether to laugh , cry or go sit in a darkened room .

9 hours ago, Waltersgotstyle said:

Gerrard definitely fits the profile for a coach who could work under a director of football.

I don't there is a 'profile' per se. Perhaps British coaches, yes -- they'd be younger, coaches rather than Managers, but only through ignorance -- but I don't think that's true on the continent. There are lots of experienced managers that just have to work under a DoF; because most clubs have one. 

I shouldn't be the case in Britain; we must move with the times. 

Also, SportsDirect only sell -- according to their website -- one Hummell product.

There's no Ashley connection there. 

You've shat yourself over nothing, @pete!

14 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

He's younger than Buffon who is still in demand; keepers mature much later.

Did you mean to reply to @compo ?

14 minutes ago, der Berliner said:

Neil Warnock rumour has been shot down by ID10 ...

Here's a video on Warnock's Cardiff... 

It's just all a bit meh, to me.

8 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

Post on FF saying Warnock 2 year deal

6 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

It came across as a serious point,

Deleted.

Just now, Darthter said:

and???

 

I was trying to be funny... apparently I'm not.

41 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

Is he going loco?

 

I hear the magic down there is so strong.

48 minutes ago, craig said:

I am sure someone told me last week that the new manager would be Benitez......

55 minutes ago, MrGaryValentine said:

Just a small point on Gerrard being an U18s coach. 

 

Remember Pep was the Barca B coach for only one season then got the top job. Of course there would be risks but just because you are a youth coach shouldn’t write you off. 

I posted a video a while showing how Pep had actually been learning to coach for years prior to being Barca B coach; he had ideas and principles developed from those coaches he looked up to. I'm not sure Gerard is at that level. 

I agree with the premise of your point, though; it shouldn't write you off, but they do need to demonstrate their ideas on the game. 

12 minutes ago, buster. said:

Impossible to say, it's only mentioning that it has already happened.

 

Inexperienced appointments can go either way and depend a lot on how well the individual is supported, both by his staff and financially.

 

Souness got the support in both areas and was successful. Although it has to be noted the situation today is a different one.

 

Greig didn't really get the same level of backing and seemed a reactionary/hasty decision by Willie Waddell.

Financial backing is part of the equation, but it's nothing compared to actually being tactical proficient. 

Like I said, the game's moved on. It's unlikely to be repeated. 

4 minutes ago, buster. said:

Where did Souness go after Rangers ?

It wasn't my point, but can you really see that happening now? Perhaps, but it's unlikely IMO.

2 minutes ago, buster. said:

It's about the finance as well as the football and if you want to provide a imaginative project for prospective investors then Gerrard plus experienced Number 2 would probably work..... Investment is key wrt providing funds to bring in quality.

 

I look at the candidates out there, the probability some wouldn't want the job and a Gerrard/Experienced Number 2 would be a gamble but no moreso than anyother prospective options out there. IMO, the likes of McLaren, Pardew would crash and burn anyway (ie.experience in failure).

 

Personally, I'd go for Clarke but I doubt he'll want it. If it's a Gerrard/Experienced No.2 then so be it....the fans could get into that.

 

 

That's not the only 'imaginative project' -- I wouldn't even call it imaginative; we're looking at his playing career, which is meaningless wrt whether he'll be a good manager.

I'd support it, but I wouldn't say I'd "get into that". 

The game's moved on: you can't gain success from a new manager, with a good playing career, with an experienced #2, whatever that means, IMO. Nicholls and Murty represent that combination.   

2 minutes ago, Ser Barristan Selmy said:

If Gerrard does well with the U18's it won't be long before he's in the mix with the first team. 

Ah, is that what you meant? A better path into the Liverpool top job eventually?

That makes sense. 

He may still need to move on to gain experience first, though.

I don't know.

1 minute ago, buster. said:

I don't think Gerrard would come as a Number 2 and the board may be looking to how the Souness appointment galvanised the club (importantly with Walter Smith beside him).

What if he's looking to learn under someone?

I don't think a 'galvanising' appointment works nowadays; it's a different game. 

Just now, Ser Barristan Selmy said:

Liverpool u18's is surely a better gig than our number 2. 

Maybe, but if he's joining under someone, that someone may offer him a better chance to learn. He does want to be a manager some day.

This is pure speculation, though.

I really can't see him being the #1.

Could Gerard be the #2? And, if he is, does that offer any obvious choices for a #1?

Just realised Candeias isn't there; that's ridiculous!

Obviously, they're saving Windass for the Ballon d'Or...  

Roma were bad; their three-CBs were all over the place, which was surprising as they defended really well against Barca. 

They'll reach the final, as they just need that away goal, which should come -- although Roma haven't conceded at home.

On their day Liverpool are blistering, but there's always that fragility there. I still see a Bayern or Real taking advantage of that. 

He'd be a good signing. 

'Shagger' and Foderingham can fight it out for #1. 

When we need to sit in and produce a 'backs-against-the-wall' performance McGregor can come in, but when we need to distribution and a more offensive game Foderingham can come in. 

8 hours ago, der Berliner said:

From FF ...

 

Arfield 3 year deal with additional option year and McGregor on 2yr deal - both being close to completion.
ITK posters know who the manager and number 2 will be but are unprepared to say. Number 2 is a surprise name.

3 minutes ago, alskoosher said:

Which part, where they are advisors to the manager or the manager is the DoFs tea boy.

If those are your two options, all of it.