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Doig doesn't look that great, from the little I've seen today. He's actually made a couple of mistakes.

Deliberate or not. Can you say with 100% accuracy that x, y, or z handled the ball accidentally or deliberately. That's an example of a subjective hand ball. For what it's worth, I think Johnstone handled it accidentally. A penalty still should have been awarded (and then rescinded as Sima was offside). You and I are disagreeing on this incident, suggesting that there's a level of subjectivity to it. VAR won't remove subjectivity from the game; there are too many instances where it's up to the subjectivity of the referee. (I don't disagree with your thoughts on the incompetence of our set-up.)

No worries.

This is not the place to discuss politics.

He was given a red circle, not an old-fashioned card. Game's gone. Unwatchable.

Sunderland want Lammers?! What kind of idiot is in charge of Sund-- Oh.

That's harsh. Hartson's barely got two braincells to rub together.

You're talking nonsense. They got closer to the correct decision.

There's not much contact according to you, and there are about 5 players in his eyeline, so it's not outwith the realms of possibility.

Maybe he didn't see the contact. There's not much contact, but there is contact. You're basically just having a go at the referee for missing it. Fair enough. He should have seen it, but it happens. I don't know why you're using this instance to have a go at VAR, though - it did its job.

I can only say it so many times: sometimes Referees miss things; they're human. It makes sense to have VAR to identify things they miss.

The extra time is not just for VAR; it's for all time wasting. That was the directive announced at the start of the season. Your argument is all over the place.

@compo thinks it's not even a booking; @Fa1833 thinks it's a yellow; I think it's a red. But it's VAR's fault because it doesn't agree with you? Come on...

Referees don't see everything. The referee does have the power to go with VAR or not. There have been a few instances where the referee has stuck with his decision.

Your issue is not with VAR, it's with the interpretation of the rules. The VAR referee thinks it could be a red. You think it's a yellow. It's not 100% either way. The referee missed it completely; VAR spotted it. VAR did its job. The rules and their interpretation can and must always be improved.

It was a red (or yellow) card. The referee missed it. VAR spotted it.

The referees don't see everything.

If he was in control his studs wouldn't have been up at Clyne's neck. If he was in control he would have just taken the ball, foot on the ground, without contact with the player.

I don't see the issue with this latest decision. There's not much force in it, fortunately, but you can't slide in like that with studs at knee level. Calvert Lewin is not in control.

Was it the Mendes shot that Carroll fumbled? Two former Rangers players.

I quite like the profile of Dennis and Alzate: they're quick, mobile players who can play in several positions. Dennis is not a goalscorer, though. Shankland is a goalscorer, but I agree, I doubt - and would be quite uncomfortable if - we're paying £5m for him; I was similarly miffed at spending that on a 28-year-old Dessers! I would like a goalscorer, but I think I'd prefer us to spread the goals around; if Sima, Cantwell, McCausland, Danilo, Dessers, Silva (albeit he has 6 months) etc. can get 10-15 goals each, that's better than relying on Shankland getting 25-30 goals.

Times reporting that we've had a loan move for Owen Beck rejected by Liverpool (who also rejected a permanent move by Celtic) as he is expected to get a first team chance due to injuries.

What are your thoughts, folks?