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I've been away for a while and wasn't aware of any absolute decree. If posters don't want to read it, they don't have to click the link. If it's simply about not giving them clicks, someone can C&P it. Personally, in this case I think it worth a read (agree with it, parts of it or none of it) and would caution against an attitude of ignoring everything that comes from X, Y or Z just because he/she is not always onside. That way of thinking has tripped the general support up in the past and helped allow all kinds of shite to go down.

Heard a European stat mentioned on the Gersnet podcast referring to the amount of games SG&Co have been in charge of for Rangers. Another way of looking at it. When I started supporting Rangers the first European match I can remember was a ECWC 1st round tie against Ankaragücü in the 1973/74 season. Back in the day, European ties weren't as plentful as today and they held, at least for me, something very special and important. A chance to strut our stuff in front of the whole of Europe. Many aspects have since changed but in the context of sheer number of games....From Shkupi to the 2nd leg of this seasons last 32, it'll be 43 European games for this management team. To get to the same number, you would have to go from that game against the Turks in 1973 to a trip to Kiev in 1987 and all sorts in between.

Can't help thinking about some of the lyrics to a Labi Siffre song Parkheid The higher you build your barriers... The more you refuse to hear my voice The louder I will singYou hide behind walls of JerichoYour lies will come tumbling Ibrox Something inside so strong

26/11/20 UEL Rangers 2 - 2 Benfica View events 29/11/20 LEC Falkirk 0 - 4 Rangers View events 03/12/20 UEL Rangers 3 - 2 Standard Liège View events 06/12/20 PRE Ross County 0 - 4 Rangers View events 10/12/20 UEL Lech Poznań 18 : 55 Rangers 13/12/20 PRE Dundee United 13 : 00 Rangers 16/12/20 LEC St. Mirren 21 : 00 Rangers 19/12/20 PRE Rangers 16 : 00 Motherwell 23/12/20 PRE St. Johnstone 20 : 45 Rangers 26/12/20 PRE Rangers 13 : 30 Hibernian 30/12/20 PRE St. Mirren 20 : 45 Rangers 02/01/21 PRE Rangers 13 : 30 Celtic We are 16 games into a 38 game league, it's far from over. The oldest maxim in football, 'one game at a time' is the way to go. However, this week should be about prioritising the game at Tannadice, we've earned the right to be able to do so and have the depth and quality of squad to reasonably expect that we can return from Poland with a positive result. Lech changed their customary attacking style to a more pragmatic approach when they came to Ibrox. All things considered, I'd imagine they'll go back to more adventurous style on Thursday. The Poles also won 4 zip yesterday and for this game, I can see a continuation, similar to our recent European results, 3-3, 2-2, 3-2...ie. goals, goals, goals. The lack of current options in the central defence probably mean Goldson will play but I'd definitely give Tavernier a night off and play Paterson, who needs minutes to help him build confidence and feel an active part of things. How many players haven't missed a minute of the EL group stages during the last 3 seasons (including this one) ? I can think of 3 of ours. A stat worthy of a UEFA tweet.

It might. It would, if accompanied by a win in Poland bring in an extra 1M. A connected issue....I have seen Goldson go down injured in the last two matches. The initial sight of which brings on a sense of dread, far worse than conceding a goal. IMO, neither Tav or Goldson should be in the starting XI in Poland and we should be confiding in the strength of the squad, giving minutes to players that need further experience so as to be better prepared if needed for a longer stint. With the match timetable infront of us, this might be the last opportunity until the Scottish Cup at the very end of January.

Will Cosgrove cross over toward the crash barriers as the Saints go marching in ? Peter needs all the friends he can muster........

20/21 monthly awards Aug: Gerrard / Kent Sep: Tav Oct: Gerrard / Goldson Nov: Gerrard / Tav Every European club still unbeaten in the league https://www.football365.com/news/every-european-club-still-unbeaten-Rangers-gerrard-juventus-2 ...(but there is only one also unbeaten in Europe)

In theory, but much of what is being said surrounding this issue is divorced from the actual cold, hard reality in front of us. Generally, as a support, it seems as though we continue not being able to see the wood for the trees.

The records are tumbling ? I wonder if Celtic are the first ever team to do a..... 'Pt.1/1Pt.'..... after 5 group matches ? That is, the Pot 1 seeds collecting only 1 point after 5 matches. Here is me thinking it was many in our support that were generally behind getting out of Europe this December ! On the other hand...... December 14, 2020 draw for 2nd (round of 32) Europa League Europa League group stage winners and runners-up[edit] Group Winners (seeded in round of 32 draw) Runners-up (unseeded in round of 32 draw) Qualified (position TBD) A Roma B Arsenal C Slavia Prague Bayer Leverkusen D Rangers Benfica E Granada PSV Eindhoven F G Leicester City Braga H Lille Milan I Villarreal J Tottenham Hotspur Antwerp K Dinamo Zagreb L 1899 Hoffenheim Red Star Belgrade CL 3rd place transfers Seed Grp Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Seeding 1 H Third place Group H (X) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Seeded in round of 32 draw 2 B Third place Group B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 D Third place Group D 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 F Third place Group F 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 E Krasnodar 5 1 1 3 5 10 −5 4 Unseeded in round of 32 draw 6 A Third place Group A (Y) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 C Third place Group C (Y) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 G Third place Group G (Y) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (X) Certain to be seeded; (Y) Certain to be unseeded.

You mean when we start to win the Champions League ? I guess you could cross Walter Smith with Michael Beale...

It's another layer of offialdom that is costly, wastes time and like what went before, doesn't get all the decisions right. #Bin ....or for Scottish football, pass on it until a time when (if ever) it works and only if affordable.

It's the old modern, progressive, professional approach that has proved so elusive for Scottish clubs. I think as well as those in charge of the football knowing what they are doing, they command the necessary levels of respect from a squad/board/media,... to have been able to reach this point. Contrast PLG and Gerrard, Delia and Rodgers. Old (Scottish) school managers in older times did well but the more recent old schoolers (eg.McCoist and Lennon) don't. Bringing Steven Gerrard up the road and backing him was the way to go. If it was down to Dave King, then hats off to him. From day one, it crossed my mind that Gerrard might privately think of doing a Bill Shankly, in reverse. Englishman goes to Glasgow and puts a huge club where it wants to be.

Going through the thread, I think this post points toward the main current and ongoing issue for the board. In a covid world, I don't think many realise how fragile the financial situation is. IMO, it's not really about debating whether the price of 20p a share is good, bad or simply fair. Nine months down the line, things could be looking very good, but if they aren't, they could be looking very black. Are C1872 about speculation or is it about a vested interest ? A relationship that was not to allow a repeat of what has gone before. I see that along at least two different lines; 1) Prevention of bad agendas/characters and 2) Financial,............ that both, whether seperately or together, lead into the matter of Survival, as we know it. Right now for the board, it's about the finance and keeping the plates spinning. Do C1872 really think sending a prospective 13M to South Africa is the way to go ? Could they delay signing up for 9 months to see how the cards fall and where the club find themselves?

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Is this the first time we have reached 11 points in a European group stage ? I remember under PLG, we got 10 pts from a 4 game group. 12 or 14pts would be in keeping with nearly everything else that has gone on this season. It's not normal but I like it !!!

I know there won't be as many changes as I propose but we need to balance the last chance for weeks to give a few of the players a game off against whats on offer for the win, which we could still go for with any XI from the squad. Tav and Goldson won't have any International breaks to rest up on until March.

Team for Poland...... McLaughlin Paterson Middleton Bassey Balogun Dicksen Zungu Aribo Barker Itten Hagi

Excellent result ! It's around 1.5M euros secured for tonights work. Around 0.5M for each.... - a win - at least a second place finish (could double if we finish 1st) - last 32 participation

Got away with a very poor 45 minutes. ps.... Bassy, Barisic, Tav, Goldson, Tav Last five goals all scored by defenders !!

Bet365 were offering odds as to who you were going to finish second behind this season ? For old times sake... 1-0; Tav

I think that is the issue here. The ruling as such, is within how the SPFL say they deal with such circumstances. However, the extraordinary circumstance of a global pandemic surely has to be considered in this instance, given the reason why Celtic requested the fixture change. Blair (SPFL) gave Peter his desired Old Firm Fixture date and how that rebounded on poor Peter. It could happen again “The best laid schemes o' mice an' men / Gang aft a-gley.”

Never been better, thanks ! ....Definitely still breathing (a la Wim Hoff) but more sea swimming rather than ye auld yomping. Put it this way, I'm mid fifties and could breeze The Paras basic training although still a way to go before I'll be able to get past the SBS tests at Poole ?

The only real option is to keep the plates spinning and hope that we reach the other side by next May (Title) and August (Euro GpStage qualification/preferably CL). Up until this point, the current board (majority Rangers fans) have been doing a very decent job improving the infrastucture and adding value. Not to mention, the finance they have put in to keep those plates spinning. However, they are not bottomless pits and the club may need further injections of cash in the coming months/years beyond the projections. As Forlan has said, those who stump up the money are really who should decide where it goes.

Like the Mr. Beaton (Castore), he seems to have signed up for the full tour of Rangers podcasts. Like Mr.Beaton, he has something to propose/sell. Don't get me wrong. I more than recognise what Dave King has done for the club and put my grain of sand toward the good fight back in the day but IMO, you have to judge things on their particular merits and as they come along. The current fragility is financial rather than the make-up of the board (btw. already mostly Rangers fans).... and that is what IMO, needs addressed within what is a relationship of vested interests.