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Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
The problem within our situation is that 'optimisim' is exploited and you tend to get 'ripped off'. I could better understand it or see the case you make if our club hadn't suffered the way it has over the past few seasons. ' Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me' Blind Loyalty + Spin = (or can produce) False Optimism that is Exploited -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
IMO, the trait you mention comes under "not very bright". In situations such as ours you deal in realism or you might aswell give your bank details to the sp.ivs. Surely we should have learnt our lessons by now. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
You tend to see it's the same people and IMO that points to one of two things. - Not very bright. - An agenda of sorts (encompasses various possible angles) A spade is a spade and sometimes it needs called as such. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Regards this type of decision, the base problem with the board and those who are close to it, is that their main motivation isn't the football club. The disagreements between different parties in and around the board further complicates the situation. For those who may want to take action regards the football operation, they then come up against a cash problem. -
Whilst you chase rainbows, your own house may get burgled.
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League Cup Draw : Falkirk v Rangers/ICT (plus seeding talk)
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
It's not flawed, 23rd represents our league position (ie. 23rd in Scottish Football in 2013/14) and is how they have been seeding the competition for years. ps. Bert Kassie doesn't work for the SPFL:) -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Perhaps the time you are looking "beyond the fence" prevents you from seeing what is in your own 'backyard'. Bear in mind that: We have the highest paid manager in Scottish Football. The best training facility in Scottish football. The second highest budget on the playing squad. More International players than all but one other club. Comes back to being a badly run club at all levels and you don't fix it by looking over a fence. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
That is quite a claim to make, even for you. Perhaps you are making a judgement based on how you with all your related experience cheered on Charles Green& his mysterious backers whilst they 'robbed' and set-up 'onerous contracts'. I'd venture that many have learnt from bitter experience and this has shaped their current outlook and decision-making regards the club. They also still see many of the mysterious backers and other names in the background loading up their wheelbarrows........Perhaps it isn't unreasonable to assume that many are fed up with part of their Blue Pound sailing off on an onerous journey. If the lack of spend were down to mainly football reasons then why the sudden fall this summer ? -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
That kind of attitude is what has traditionally made it easy for Rangers to under achieve throughout the club whilst playing in a footballing backwater and it also made it much easier for the sp.ivs to be welcomed instead of chased. Regards sp.ivs, any opportunity or timely act was therefore missed as we instead layed out the red carpet for the robbing bastards. Being patient and accepting whatever was thrown at us is your right but some may want more. It was one thing when it was mainly the football operation but now we can add the boardroom and the diversion of a percentage of the revenue which threatens the club itself. But if you want to be patient and see if the sp.ivs leave anything behind, fine. I do take the point that there is a limited amount we can do and that because of Blind Loyalty, Patience and an addiction to Spin we find ourselves where we are today. A double barrelled, rudderless Omnishambles with both RIFC and TRFC. -
As you yourself say, I think there are better indicators as to the form of a club in a given moment. The co-efficients represent 5 years historic data at a time when squads and managers change frequently. Perhaps a co-efficient for a 2 year period would be better taken alongside the up-to date record and situation. Last night for example, Celtic, despite a reasonable 5 year co-efficient rating looked what they are. A team with no cutting edge that is in transition...... with a manager who doesn't seem to be flavour of the month in the dressing room, never mind amongst the support.
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Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
We have a double barrelled, rudderless Omnishambles with both RIFC (month at a time) and TRFC (match at a time). Rudderless may be a little inaccurate in that some have plotting a course but it isn't for the benefit of Rangers. -
League Cup Draw : Falkirk v Rangers/ICT (plus seeding talk)
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Had the fact that we were able to set up an away friendly against Derby County on the same date anything to do with it ?....ie. rather than look for alternative venue. Derby who were beaten by Queens Park (1-2) Rangers in last seasons play-off -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
If you look at it today then it has never been in a more dangerous place wrt to numbers. I think this will be best illustrated with imagery of empty seats at both Ibrox and Parkhead this season. When as a nation your clubs become European Summer canonfodder and the number of supporters who have never seen Scotland qualify for a major championship increases steadily,.... it's little wonder that they don't fall for the Scottish version of a sport that is charaterised by mediocrity (I'm feeling generous) from the media coverage to the on-field performance. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Most of the current exodus will be made up of those who have 'changed' their habits, which is often a difficult step to take. It's a dam sight easier for 'future generations' to simply miss out the Scottish Football stage. -
League Cup Draw : Falkirk v Rangers/ICT (plus seeding talk)
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Trying to arm another stoshie which makes for easy 'journalism'. There is precedent for this in UEFA competition and besides if Rangers were to beat ICT and qualify for the 3rd round then they would only be taking the place of the seed, who they had beaten on the pitch. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
The drip by drip method of fading away as a competitive force in the game (beyond the Scottish border). Taken alongside the decline in the Scottish club game it will gather pace and future generations will tend to look elsewhere for their sports kick. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
I don't think any of our fans desperately want an insolvency event. However it's a sad day and hellps illustrate our plight when it's even being considered as a possible (very risky) step on the way to a more stable club that is not run for the benefit of others. What I think is being layed bare, is the difficulty of the apparent situation today. This in part is regarding the lead weights that the club is carrying in the way that our financial dealings have been set-up and the agenda of those currently in and around the boardroom, ie. running the club as a means to extract money (even when lossmaking). Some consider that the club need to build from a solid base because as it stands it is built on sand and faces the prospect of limping on and basically going quickly downhill with Scottish football in general. Currently, the 'golden ticket' of a Rangers friendly takeover by way of Mr.X buying sufficient shares would seem to be unlikely and here is one of several places where the consideration regards impact of a potential insolvency event is important. The sp.ivs have engineered a situation that will have various options dependent on the route we go down. They have been ahead of the game all the way through and with executive control I doubt it will be changing anytime soon. This means either longterm suffering for the club as a whole as we effectively pay a 'sp.iv tax' on revenue generated... or... some kind of takeover which means Mr.X will have to dig very deep into his pocket before starting to address infrastructural/football operation issues... or ...a takeover that comes at an ongoing price (eg.S&LB of Ibrox) ..or.. a combination. Basically when sp.ivs get their claws in, they aren't going to let go until they can maximise their position and there will be more pain to come. I think the sp.ivs would prefer it to be a bit on the "Chinese Water Torture' drip by drip method where they stay in place to make the most of 30,000 turning up at Ibrox, an Ibrox that will eventually be sold. Not forgetting the fanbase as a whole, eg. Merchandise / Sports Direct. Good options that can be considered realistic are scarce. That is where we are. ----------------------------------------------------------- Another question regards a possible insolvency event would be, RIFC or TRFC ? As it stands TRFC seem to be where the debt is. Cashflow problems are at RIFC. Perhaps a Financial Bear could give us an opinion or simply explain how he sees it. -
I take it you are talking about 2001 when we beat them 6-1 on aggregate. Since then Maribor have played Scottish sides 3 times (Hibs 2010, Rangers 2011, Celtic 2014) and haven't lost any of the 6 games involved. Scottish football is exposed for what it has become when it comes to Europe. Many have waxed lyrical about the 'reivigorated game' in Scotland but they hold their weish during the summer qualifiers as our canon fodder look out their passports, usually once. Motherwell, the team who have finished second had gone 7 games in Europe without scoring before they played an Icelandic team this summer, they scored but still went out. Hibs have won one out of their last 12 European games, but still lost the tie. Their last game was a home defeat to the tune of 0-7 to the giants of Malmo. Dundee Utd, a team who once did well in Europe have lost their last 5 European ties. Hearts have lost 4 out of their last 5 ties.
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They have fecked up with both of their managerial appointments. LVG is another mistake and I said that weeks ago, not based on recent games. The English press will gradually get on top of him after an overly respectful and reverent welcome.
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Karma for what is a cr@p team....just a pity it wasn't next season and they didn't have a year to go through transition. Ronnie Must Stay !!!!
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MK Dons just scored their 4th..... Start feeling some heat Louis...
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Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
As if I know the exact figures from the varying contracts. This is like when back in the day, posters asked for a precise breakdown of how money were being sucked from the IPO funds. It's asking the impossible that if not provided somehow is judged to prove the argument of asker. It's an argument for the 'Blind Loyal' that can't or don't want to see what is happening. It is for the 'usual suspects' that followed your Craig Whyte, your Charles Green and your Jack Irvine Spin. It's not very bright and shows an unwillingness to learn. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Put it another way. Possibly the only way we would have a chance of being able to build a solid base and not having to play with a metaphorical 9 men or pay an extra metaphorical layer of tax called 'onerous contracts'. -
Deserted seats show reality of angry Rangers fans voting with their feet
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
From the regulatory notices. 23/2/14 and on 25/3/14