

buster.
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Bah Humbug Enjoy !!
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From a Hearts supporter who knows what he is talking about.............. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . "Romanov actually had interests in three clubs, Hearts, FBK Kaunas in Lithuania and MTZ Ripo in Belarus. While he was ultimately recognised as the “Owner and Operator” of Hearts, he was never a shareholder in his own right or even a director of Hearts. His shareholdings were always held through a third party, e.g. HOM 2005 Ltd and UBIG. It was the SPL themselves who changed the rules in order to be able to sanction Romanov for his rants against the authorities by defining the “owner and operator” of the club. If I recall correctly, Kaunas was actually owned by Ukio Bankas, which Romanaov only owned 33%, although this was increased to 51% in 2010 and 63% in 2012. His involvement with the third team of MTZ Ripo was through his companies being the major sponsors of the club."
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This paragraph is wrong, or at least the way I'm reading it, it sounds wrong. To me, it gives the impression that the EGM was called on the 12th. The letter from MASH Holdings Ltd. requesting an EGM and the removal of Wallace and Nash was received on the 7th of October. It was then announced to the market on the 8th, two days before the leaked e-mail was sent.
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I very much see what you are getting at but the e-mail involves more than just Somers. Nor do I think this would be a route of his choice. Noising up shareholders at the AGM, yes.
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"Rangers chairman David Somers pleaded for Mike Ashley takeover to succeed, emails reveal" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11311642/Rangers-chairman-David-Somers-pleaded-for-Mike-Ashley-takeover-to-succeed-emails-reveal.html Fot full Roddy Forsyth article, click link above -------------------------------------------------- This isn't just about Somers though, it goes deeper.
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There is a complicated narrative, in which I think we all share varying degrees of responsibility.
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If the club are looking to youth development, why would they appoint someone they deemed for whatever reason, not worthy of a coaching role in the first team set-up ?
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I think it's about opening your eyes, engaging the thought process and seeing what is in front of you. After that, everyone can make up their own minds. Blind loyalty will be exploited for corporate interests. Ashely isn't for selling elaborate products at the top end. He is about low-cost, low quality products sold at the bottom end. The current economy throughout Europe will lend itself to this strategy. If you blind yourself to what is going-on, bend-over and have no real ambition then I can understand trueblues stance.
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Much of what you say is true. However, the crux and the question you don't broach is what kind of Rangers will or might live on ? This has already been discussed. And this is where you seem to advocating some kind of 'long', 'cheque is in the post' type of war (just keep spending your money)....You might aswell be George Bush at the beginning of the century. Yesterday it was about immediate action, now it's the 'long war' and Llambias should be given a chance. You are sending out confused messages, which almost sound like you were trying to sell something but struggling to find a sweet spot, that's because there isn't one.
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You mean the soulless corporate entity that is shedding traditon and embracing SD franchise. That has no respect for the support, doesn't want to engage with them, misleads them through serial spin but want's their cash.
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I very much get the feeling that this is the 'achilles heel' in the Ashely plan....and for that matter, all other holders of onerous contracts.
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Back then and shortly afterwards was the time when there were small windows of opportunity that we were, for various reasons incapable to take advantage of. For Trueblue to somehow suddenly express optimism that we'll take on Ashely and get our way in a 'corporate battle' is seriously misguided and somewhat confused given how he seems to think Llambias needs to be given a chance.
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Rangers chief Derek Llambias must seek approval for vision of club...
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
There has been a lot said about Xmas TV being mainly repeats.................. Ever get the feeling that you've seen this AGM and aftermath before ? Perhaps someone saw the first, altered a few lines, couple of wee changes and decided to go with it, thinking the 'mug punters' would lap it up. -
Could it be a group of serially misguided, hate-filled, cabal hunting, molelike-visionaries happily searching for a 'shiny thing' that they never find.
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Rangers chief Derek Llambias must seek approval for vision of club...
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
But can you provide the links where you saw the Newcastle fans praise him please. -
Rangers chief Derek Llambias must seek approval for vision of club...
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
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You have to ask yourself what are Rangers becoming ? A badge, a motto, a jersey are tangibles that have been hijacked and what is within is hollow and to become a Sports Direct Franchise. For various reasons, we have shown ourselves not to be up for this corporate battle and if Ashely gets a proper hold on things then you'd be metaphorically asking a divided 'team' with problems in the dressing room, who have shown themselves incapable of beating Barnsley, to go out and take on Chelsea. The only quote I can find that Ashely refers to Rangers was at a SD AGM after answering the question, "could explain the benefits to Sports Direct in its relationship with Newcastle United and Rangers." His answer after a pause of 27 seconds “Other than to say than it's been beneficial to Sports Direct and therefore its shareholders, I don't think it’s appropriate to comment.” You and others like you will have your opinion and they are to be respected but so are fans that see something happening with their own eyes, are sick and scunnered with the runnaway train of lies and profiteering and don't want to be robotic fans of a soulless corporate vehicle with a blue jersey.
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Rangers chief Derek Llambias must seek approval for vision of club...
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Look at Ibrox on matchdays. Look at ST numbers from the summer. Listen to shareholders at the AGM Whatever 'group' or 'opinion' you consider yourself to be closer to, it would appear to be a small one who shout loudly (online) One that has an unhealthy fixation about some individuals and fansgroups. One that points the finger of blame at the media, the governing bodies, those fans mentioned, cabal of the day etc as those to blame for the state the club finds itself.. One that has shouted the partyline of all the sp.ivs and never learns but still have the gaul to still shout loudly One that seems to have a particular fixation with giving the thumbs-up to all those sp.ivs that have passed through Ibrox. One that is too far down the line of emotionally investing in the board to change. The poverty of the general argument emanating from it should mean it is ignored. -
Somers got what he wanted, the headlines. Look beyond the circus clown for the detail.
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If he wants it, Ashely has it tied up (pending SFA), you may aswell piss in the wind. The only way to metaphorically hurt him is by not giving what will become another branch of soulless Sports Direct (FC) any more cash. Emotional ties with a branch of Sports Direct going no-where, naw, no really.
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I'd hope for a more fluid and creative middle to front link or at least an effort towards it. If not possible through personnel, via a new shape. Obviously an important game, so it will also be interesting, what degree of conservatism he will employ. Being part of the Rangers management team for the past 6/7 years would suggest it will be Conservative with a capital C.
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Starting 'a new club' discussion from the AGM thread
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That IMO, is a very well written summary that touches on the macro issues that are in play.- 115 replies
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Llambias is very much part of it although may have been surprised at the level of hostility. Although, given the style Somers adopted, it almost seemed as he wanted to incite bad feeling. It was that or he has the awareness of a dead badger with one leg.
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Starting 'a new club' discussion from the AGM thread
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I'm sure Frankie wouldn't have a problem with realistic ideas.- 115 replies
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Resolution 9 is a big No at 44.84%