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The politics within could be a little more complicated given that you have Irvine representing the Easdale block and any alliance to MASH/Ashley may not necessarily endure. The big differences this time are that the 'good guys' seem to have a stakeholding that genuinely threatens the incumbents, the general feeling within a more unified support and an increased awareness of spoiling tactics. However Ashley still holds good cards and much depends on how he wants to play it.
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I wouldn't get too hung up on what happened the other night. I believe there was an unfortunate and regretable incident which may even be categorized as assault, details are sketchy. This should obviously be condemed and as Frankie says care taken so as to lessen the chances of it being repeated. But given it didn't take place at the location of the protest, nor at the time of the protest and nor is it known who actually committed any such assault...........then the blame should be layed at the door of the individual(s) concerned rather than stigmitize the protest as a whole. If the world stopped for every isolated incident then nothing would happen. The main reason that the mood of the protest seemed to be somewhat angrier than many other protests was IMO the same reason why a widerspread cross-section of the support felt that a rubicon had been crossed and until we remedy the root cause of that ('positive' changes in the boardroom) then the root cause of any bad feeling will only get worse.
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Fairly standard reply. They replied to the Ashley request of a General Meeting saying..........."The Board is united in its support of the executive team. If the Notice is valid and is not withdrawn, the Directors intend to recommend that Shareholders vote against the proposed resolutions" Two days later Somers wrote that e-mail which contradicted the above a tadge......."“Meanwhile I have received a formal proposal for a deal from Dave King and my board are clamouring for a board call to discuss it and no doubt approve it. A board on which James and I are in a minority."
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December 2014: "Austerity, I'm no going to be popular"....Llambias January 2015: Significant fan protests = roll out the 'enhancing of the playing squad' line. What they meant to say was that most will be out of contract at the end of the season and we'll be forced to look for players. Once again they use an official announcement to spin a line.... They should rename them 'Regulatory Moonbeams'. Deceitful, untrustworthy misleading bastards
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Pub chain pull plug on showing Celtic-Rangers cup tie...
buster. replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
With all the media talk about 'a fear of violence', I do hope they won't be hugely hypocritical and cover the build-up in a way that is at all inflammatory..............but you know they will. -
My original question didn't have anything to do with the SFA or Rangers.
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If SA law/regulation/authorities don't have a say, then who would ?
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Nothing is straightforward and regards DK, it won't be newspapers, messageboards, bloggers or spindoctors who would make any decisions on any representative involvement with Rangers, although they will try and influence supporters opinions and instill doubt. Let's seperate what would be the decision from the speculation. For many, the speculation is a tactic within the current 'battle' that kicked off in earnest on Friday evening when the EGM was called, the first major salvo was always going to be the Sunday newspapers. Questions 1. Would King have embarked on his plans if he thought he'd be refused when actually arriving at the door ? 2. Considering the cited convictions, why do the SA authorities allow him to sit on the board of registered companies that trade in the stock exchange ? ------------------------------------------------- I find it somewhat ironic that the media go down this line of the timely questioning of circumstances surronding individuals who put themselves forward to get involved in our boardroom saga when they have been posted missing when some of the 'robbing scheming bastards' were given a different treatment. What it points to is a standard of journalism that is reactionary and spoon-fed rather than investigative. Journalism that is used by others to further their interests (that includes 'various sides'). Journalism that is not independent and generally serves to prolong our agonies (& their sales). Journalism that was exploited by Sir Duped and Toxic back in the day to lay the ground for a less resistant enviroment re. fan opinion. As UKPLC strides forward in expensive shoes and 'lite regulation', the fabric of our society changes and the new cloth ain't pretty. Rangers have become a very public example of what can happen within this enviroment.
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Good to be informed and have the RST do this necessary labour in the best interests of our club. Not surprising on the legal front. The board(s) either directly or indirectly have made an artform in misleading through actions and words. Nor is it surprising that dependent on upcoming events individuals may be able to be held accountable for their actions for present activities, never mind what has gone on in the past.
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Priority Remove all presence of Ashley influence and of the Easdale Block influence from the executive board . At this present moment, the fans have probably never been so unified in their condemnation of the actual board and efforts must be made to carry this forward looking at the bigger picture rather than the relatively trivial. From this moment on, we will experience another bout of aggressive 'crisis-management from toxic spin-doctors looking to push doubts and division. We have already witnessed what can happen in the summer 0f 2013 when forensic accountant, Frank Blin was forced out in similar circumstances. We can hope lessons have been learnt and that individuals are prepared for what will come as the the beneficiaries of the 'onerous contracts' set the toxic attack-dogs loose. I hope that Paul Murray has learnt lessons of how to go about this because it has very little to do with what he is qualified for. His accountancy or directorial skills would be for later if the requisition was to be successful. I don't know John Gilligan but perhaps it's horses for courses and the next few weeks require someone with his skillset. Quite apart from the financial and corporate, this will be a 'dirty-war' and I'd advise not to lose sight of that Number One priority, to remove the Ashley and Easdale block influence from executive power where they have done untold damage..........
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Have done all the way through the soap opera. Only time I've seen any of them worried was CW after putting us into administration.
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We'll need some money from somewhere to pay the bills/wages.
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This is the 4th EGM to be called since June 2012. We are still waiting for the first to actually take place.
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Andy Newport @AndyNewportPA · Rangers fans shout 'Sack the board', "Get out of our club you greedy b*stards" and "Ashley, Ashley get to f*ck" outside frontdoor of Ibrox Gordon Duncan @gordonduncan7 · Angry scenes as hundreds of fans gather outside Ibrox. "Easdales, get tae f**k" and "sack the board" ringing out.
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Radio Clyde reporting a 'sizeable protest' and went over to listen to loud chants of 'Sack the board'. Well done to all those involved
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That is encouraging to hear.
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Well done to the RFB for coming out with this. It will be interesting to see any statement in full.
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Could most of our directors over the past few years be classified as NOMADS ? Nomad: A member of a people or tribe that has no permanent abode but moves about from place to place, usually seasonally and often following a traditional route or circuit according to the state of the pasturage or food supply.
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What an embarrasment It's became standard fare, perhaps it's all really a Monty Python sketch.
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Were you going oot wi Winston fae Still Game ? ...
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I think the numbers of fans who actually voted in the RFB elections has to be taken into account when looking at the issue of representation. IIRC we were told that 683 voted for FS. Then look at the numbers of empty blue seats and approximately 15,000 shortfall in ST numbers for this season. ps. that isn't meant as a slight on FS. It is simply to illustrate a general point.
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The viability of the club and of any proposal going forward depends on the fans financial support. If broadly unified in collective opinion and radical enough, the support could at a stroke show the RIFC board that the Ashley proposal didn't have a hope in hell of working. The recent events are for the first time in a long while, unifying supporter opinion. The support do have power and this is why the likes of Irvine has played such an important part in this whole soap opera. Note that we had McMurdo's 'timely' propaganda piece appear yesterday.
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The RIFC board will not sanction a body that poses a threat to their own interests, period. The real problem is in and around the RIFC board, the RFB are a powerless irrelevance in these matters and are currently demonstrating what most of us knew.......... Until we rid ourselves of RIFC directors who are more interested in themselves or related parties we will never have a chance of securing a firm base to build upon, including any fans representation.
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Yes, it would send a loud message but neither will I be holding my breath for a mass resignation. The RFB is typical of the whole soap opera. It's not black or white, but a tone of grey which can be sold on the white whilst hiding the black. Another pertinent example is the 'blue pound'. The club need it to survive (white) but the onerous contracts require it for them to be serviced (black) and encourage their beneficiaries to stick around. In effect, a sp.iv tax. The most effective measures, whether spin or more tangible are often grey.
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IMO our energies should presently be focused on the RIFC board. If the RFB are as expected, an irrelevance in these type of matters, then they only expose the major flaw at the heart of their remit. They self-harm regards credibility. You have to consider this in the context of the proposal that was welcomed by Sandy Easdale. That they (RFB) become the only 'fans group/body' to have direct dialogue with the RIFC/TRFC boards.