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I'd agree that DK sometimes says more than required and sets himself and others up for future problems and unnecessary pressure. However I'd say that what Mr.MASH/SDI are currently doing deserves the harsher spotlight and is what is really holding us back. Wrt the recent court case. Justice Peter Smith shone that spotlight in a very knowledgable way towards Mr.MASH but we end up talking about something which had little to do with the case and was basically down to a regretable f**k-up. This is...............Rangers...v ...MrMASH/SDI Question tactics, Be peeved at mistakes but .............Choose your side.

Giantchelsea on FF summed it up well "It's a work in progress being done with one hand tied behind our back, it's important that everyone realises that." Some don't want to see it or even consider it.

I'm simply talking about current and future cashflow at Rangers and who may have an interest in hampering it through a dedicated strategy.

Strange decision but the day we are worried about John McGinn will be a sad one.

I think that someone earlier in the thread suggested MASH may possibly be contributing to pay Greens legal fees for this ongoing claim. I don't know if this is true or not but it would fit with any MO that wanted to hamper cashflow at Rangers. Both in the short-term and possibly medium-term if what you mention were to come to pass.

I'd agree that it's very much a question that has to be asked.

The MO of the present government has been to take the the relationship between the board and employees down the same road to where Ashely presently is. Only Ashely, who enjoys sailing close to the wind, would seem to be a bit ahead of the rolling ball.

Don't know but I would hope not. This being the time of year for predictions, I'd say it not unlikely that the mouth from Yorkshire becomes 'ill' during 2016 and seeks a doctor's note to give to court. The various appeals might seem to go on forever but time stops for no man and currently at 67 years old, Charles may yet have the word 'appeal' etched on his tombstone. I'm just hoping I live to see the end of all this. It's got to the stage that I'd die with a smile on my face, if certain outcomes came to pass. ... -------------------------------------- ps: Mr.Boabie That article is from September, before the first hearing.

Wrong Fergie at the wrong time.

Stubborness + Consistency of MO + Wealth/Power............. V............. Complacency + Mistakes (including corporate governance) + Individuals with knowledge and grudge + Does the Law function as it should? ps. OP was a good read, thanks !

Not an idiot. More a self-interested, arrogant and calculating preacher who had little to no moral compass as he serialy and deliberately set out to mislead the Rangers support whilst others were taking advantage.

Not surprising but good to hear that the investigation continues and that the case appears to be building. All signs point to the Crown being very determined to get a comprehensive 'result' in a very complex and multi-layered case(s).

"Daft wee laddie fae Niddrie" Didn't realise he was from Edinburgh.

No, it's what we all hope that you keep calling them before the fall. #death, taxes and Hibs bottle crash

In Spain, the equivalent to April fools Day falls on the 28th of December. I believe that is also when the 'Green Brazil' are due at Ibrox. ...

I'd agree that we need to do more on the park in the sense of getting past this blip and ensuring promotion. I think that is fair, in that the players are good enough to do so and have at this level already shown themselve to be. These next couple of games would be a good time for the players and the manager to show us that they are the best team in the division.

I'm going to plagarise the poster 'Giantchelsea' from FF and borrow his line that neatly encapsulates things. "It's a work in progress being done with one hand tied behind our back, it's important that everyone realises that."

I agree that promotion is vital and that the squad could do with strengthing to that end. Although I don't think that necessarily means spending substantial cash on transfer fees. MW and FMcP know the budget, know the markets and I'm confident thay can find players that will add value. The club is where it is and the "carrots" of the past that have been expensive and that had varying degrees of success/failure are a thing of the past. Equally to go down that route is dangerous for the future of the club. There is a balance to be struck, that has to take into account the current situation and an appreciation of why we brought in Mark Warburton instead of an Dick Advocaat type.

It's up to each individual to decide if they turn up or not but I'm trying to make the point that the club is still embroiled in off field problems and it's going to take time to sort out. That we either appreciate the change in approach to the football operation and take our lead in this from MW or complain and want to return to the ways of the past, both on and off field. The problem with the latter is that it isn't currently viable. The natural way of things is that when a football team drops it's performance/results that crowds will drop, that's nothing new. At various levels at the club things are 'work in progress' but the medium-term vision behind the football operation is sound and has good people in post. Consider where we have come from, where we are and that a firm foundation for a good rebuild was never going to happen overnight. A wee bit of patience is called for.

With all due respect,....IMO you typify a certain group within the support. Politically niave and with unreasonable expectations that have more reference to our past than our present. Although the latter has been encouraged by some of what has come from the club. I wrote the following in reply to someone on FF, that I think touches on some of the issues behind my remarks to Rab (not abuse, more calling a spade a spade/IMO). ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. For various reasons there isn't the money to go on a semi-lavish recruiting drive in January, period. 2. Last springtime, the board had a vision of how they saw the football opertion developing and appointed MW&Co to take charge of it. This won't happen overnight but we need firm foundations and a system not just to bring through players but to make our club viable. 3. It isn't about throwing money that you haven't got at the transfer window, it's about getting the right players and developing them. This is where we are at present and past rhetoric about League titles next season, overspend and X amount of players belong more to a past era than to today. 4. When looking at the situation as a whole you have to take into consideration the football side, the political side, the financial side, the support and the overlap between them. For example, the political side is currently impacting the financial which in turn is felt by the football, from which the fans react. 5. Within this dynamic (Political Headline Overview is MASH/SD are at corporate war with Rangers) I think it important that the support back the club. However, the club have some difficulty in communicating with fans on this due to gagging orders/live court cases and in this vacum there are efforts made on behalf of MASH to spread misinformation. 6. Communication is vital. Unrealistic expectations and timescales haven't helped and should be replaced by straightforward realism that focuses on building a productive football operation for the medium to long term. IMO Paul Murray or Stewart Robertson may be better to communicate this whilst DK may be more effective in the background in efforts to bring SDI legally and financially to account. 7. We aren't out of the woods financially, nor has the war been won although regime change was hugely important and until this particular 'war' is over there will most likely be varying degrees of turbulence. 8. We need the fans to get behind the club during what amounts to 'corporate wartime', not to do what Mr.MASH would like to see us do. At the sametime, on the field, we have reasons to be cheerful and have to realise at present it's building blocks and patience rather than millions (that we don't have) thrown at players. 9. Perhaps Mr.MASH is being aggressive because they would probably like DK and the club to drop plans and efforts to bring SDI, legally and financially to account. This strategy may or may not run parralell to current criminal proceedings and the fall out from them. Whatever happens is going to take time.

Sports Direct International Share Price 2015 2nd December: 737p 14th December: 574p (down 2.05% on day)

Sports Direct owner Mike Ashley is a monster of a man' says warehouse local MP Dennis Skinner Video / House of Commons http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sports-direct-owner-mike-ashley-is-a-monster-of-a-man-says-mp-whose-constituency-the-companys-a6772941.html

Monday 14th December Sports Direct: minister to face question over minimum wage enforcement Labour’s Chuka Umunna is granted request for urgent question on what ministers are doing to enforce law following Guardian investigation of retailing giant. A Treasury minister has been summoned to the Commons to explain what the government is doing to ensure Sports Direct pays the minimum wage. The Speaker, John Bercow, granted a request for an urgent question on Monday afternoon from the former shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna to ask ministers what they are doing to enforce the minimum wage in this case. The move was prompted by a Guardian investigation that revealed many Sports Direct workers effectively earn below the minimum wage because they were forced to wait for about 15 minutes after each shift to be searched by security staff. The retailer’s working practices contribute to many staff being paid an effective rate of about £6.50 an hour against the statutory rate of £6.70 – potentially saving the FTSE 100 firm millions of pounds a year at the expense of some of the poorest workers in the UK. Full article at http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/14/sports-direct-minister-to-face-question-over-minimum-wage-enforcement

Press article with pics of a full primary school and an empty megastore? Second Leg Rangers Fans 1 SD 0 (agg. 2-0) Many don't want SD products but MASH would rather take the hit and see Rangers trampled into dust than back down.